Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

[7thMoon]

I won't mention names but several claim no need to be forgiven if you've repented once because futures sins from now on are covered.

I don't what the Hebrew means for 'atone', but it has implication of correcting and remitting sin.

 

[selahsays]

I've seen you in several Topics and agree with many Reformed.

I only agree with the Bible. You should know that.

 

[selahsays]

You don't believe that has happened?

I don’t know. I let my Father judge such as that.

 

[selahsays]

I won't mention names but several claim no need to be forgiven if you've repented once because futures sins from now on are covered.

Who is saying that? From this forum?

 

[Cameron143]

I won't mention names but several claim no need to be forgiven if you've repented once because futures sins from now on are covered.

You misunderstood his position. He wasn't saying he didn't need to confess, but that because he had already repented...turned from his sin and agreed with God that it was sin...that confession was sufficient, and didn't need to continually repent.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

I only agree with the Bible. You should know that.

I do as well which is why I require deeper explanation of some posts to get at what they're really saying.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

I don't what the Hebrew means for 'atone', but it has implication of correcting and remitting sin.

It's why they were required a sin offering for every sin. That still means every sin requires forgiveness. But we do it by asking, not performing now.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

You misunderstood his position. He wasn't saying he didn't need to confess, but that because he had already repented...turned from his sin and agreed with God that it was sin...that confession was sufficient, and didn't need to continually repent.

We were not talking repentance but continual sin.

 

[Rufus]

You misunderstood his position. He wasn't saying he didn't need to confess, but that because he had already repented...turned from his sin and agreed with God that it was sin...that confession was sufficient, and didn't need to continually repent.

To whose position are you referring?

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

One example was in the Charles Stanley thread where claims being made were if you do not ask forgiveness of sins you just lose gifts and rewards from God.

 

[selahsays]

One example was in the Charles Stanley thread where claims being made were if you do not ask forgiveness of sins you just lose gifts and rewards from God.

But what does the Bible say?

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

But what does the Bible say?

About sinning and sinning and sinning and not asking for forgiveness after being saved?

 

[Cameron143]

We were not talking repentance but continual sin.

Still applies.
And I realize there are zealots who would say we can continue in sin and still be saved. These people are not saved to begin with or will be the recipients of the chastening hand of God.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Still applies.
And I realize there are zealots who would say we can continue in sin and still be saved. These people are not saved to begin with or will be the recipients of the chastening hand of God.

So you are saying some of the Reformed on this Forum are not really saved even though they bash others for not being Reformed?

 

[Cameron143]

To whose position are you referring?

@Everlasting-Grace.
He does have a point. Repentance is a turning from sin. It is called for in salvation. Confession is for restoring fellowship with God.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

@Everlasting-Grace.
He does have a point. Repentance is a turning from sin. It is called for in salvation. Confession is for restoring fellowship with God.

He is not the only one.
There were at least 3 others in the Thread I mentioned.

A couple also in this Thread:
Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

 

[Cameron143]

So you are saying some of the Reformed on this Forum are not really saved even though they bash others for not being Reformed?

I think that is likely the case, as a functional judgment. As a final judgment, I'm not qualified to make such a determination.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

I think that is likely the case, as a functional judgment. As a final judgment, I'm not qualified to make such a determination.

I will leave it at that. But they are giving Reformers a bad vibe.

 

[Cameron143]

He is not the only one.
There were at least 3 others in the Thread I mentioned.

A couple also in this Thread:
Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

They are not wholly wrong. Once someone is saved, there is no way to take such a one from the Father's or Jesus' hand.
I believe the problem comes in when men believe someone to be saved when they are not, and when they inevitably fall away, it is assumed they lost their salvation.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

They are not wholly wrong. Once someone is saved, there is no way to take such a one from the Father's or Jesus' hand.
I believe the problem comes in when men believe someone to be saved when they are not, and when they inevitably fall away, it is assumed they lost their salvation.

Jesus gave us a daily Prayer that includes daily forgiving others and ourselves. So there's some importance to obeying that Prayer.
As one who does not believe we can lose our salvation unless we just totally reject God and everything about Him. I was only debating their stance about being able to sin endlessly without seeking forgiveness.