Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

[FollowerofShiloh]

No it's not. You don't understand what the perseverance of the saints is all about.

I have asked them and this is the response I now present to you.
So don't tell me I do not understand because I make them get down to simple explanation.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

So. People of all persuasions hold truth in error. Doesn't change what I posted.

I know like thinking Jesus only died for the Elect.
God is Sovereign for sending 3/4 of His creation to Hell.
Error is all over this place connected to the Reformers.

 

[Cameron143]

I have asked them and this is the response I now present to you.
So don't tell me I do not understand because I make them get down to simple explanation.

What you wrote about them may be true, but they, like you, don't understand perseverance of the saints.

 

[Cameron143]

I know like thinking Jesus only died for the Elect.
God is Sovereign for sending 3/4 of His creation to Hell.
Error is all over this place connected to the Reformers.

Error is human. We all suffer from it.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

What you wrote about them may be true, but they, like you, don't understand perseverance of the saints.

Where have I ever said one can lose salvation outside the rejection of God?

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Error is human. We all suffer from it.

This is fact.

 

[Rufus]

Those are the words of King Jesus, sitting at the Right hand of God, 30 years after Paul is dead to John.
So I trust the Risen Glorified Jesus over your understanding.

What in the world are you talking about!? Jesus spoke those words to his disciples in his Mt. Olivet Discourse shortly before he died.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

What in the world are you talking about!? Jesus spoke those words to his disciples in his Mt. Olivet Discourse shortly before he died.

I explained that 2 posts later.

 

[selahsays]

Your Reformed buddies that you listen to as Gospel on these forums believe this and you believe them. It's part of TULIP.

I’m very disappointed in you, brother, because you know better. I pray you will learn not to label people but to listen to the Word of God. —Selah

 

[Cameron143]

Where have I ever said one can lose salvation outside the rejection of God?

Off topic. I never claimed you did.

 

[Rufus]

I have read Reformers claim Jesus died once and is for future sins so no need to..on this very Forum.

"No need to" what?

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

I’m very disappointed in you, brother, because you know better. I pray you will learn not to label people but to listen to the Word of God. —Selah

Where did I lie at?
I just spoke with Cameron and it's been established some of the Reformed have presented this viewpoint.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

"No need to" what?

Some claim the 5 doctrines of Grace = Jesus died for future sins so it's possible to sin and sin and sin without ever asking forgiveness.

 

[7thMoon]

Some claim the 5 doctrines of Grace = Jesus died for future sins so it's possible to sin and sin and sin without ever asking forgiveness.

Ask for forgiveness or be justified by works? I'll take the latter.

 

[selahsays]

Where did I lie at?
I just spoke with Cameron and it's been established some of the Reformed have presented this viewpoint.

#4636

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Ask for forgiveness or be justified by works? I'll take the latter.

I won't mention names but several claim no need to be forgiven if you've repented once because futures sins from now on are covered.

 

[selahsays]

Some claim the 5 doctrines of Grace = Jesus died for future sins so it's possible to sin and sin and sin without ever asking forgiveness.

nonsense

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

#4636

I've seen you in several Topics and agree with many Reformed.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

nonsense

You don't believe that has happened?

 

[Rufus]

I know like thinking Jesus only died for the Elect.
God is Sovereign for sending 3/4 of His creation to Hell.
Error is all over this place connected to the Reformers.

You ducked a question I asked earlier when you claimed God would be a murderer for "sending" all his non-elect creation to hell. So, I'll ask it again: Was God a murderer when he commanded Israel to drive out all the non-elect nations from the land he had promised to Abraham? And of course in that process many hundreds of thousands of pagans were killed. You might recall that king David alone had spilled so much blood that God would not permit him to build a temple for him.