Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

[ForestGreenCook]

WHO IS THIS NATURAL MAN OF WHOM YOU SPEAK?​

The natural man is anyone that has not been regenerated.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

So, you do not read the scriptures that are quoted to you? If you would consider more scriptures, you might become more knowledgeable of them.

Strange as it might seem to you, it is pretty hard to quote Scriptures without reading them. Of course, you didn't click the link.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

The natural man is anyone that has not been regenerated.

To that end I agree, but I would go further and say that he is the man that has progressed (or regressed) to the man we read of in Romans 1:18ff. He is not just a casual unbeliever. He has chosen to worship and serve the created rather than the Creator and has suppressed all Bible truth.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Apples and oranges?

You called it a Calvin doctrine. I called it Jesus's doctrine. You go ahead and have your fun with your negative remarks about Calvin, but as I have told you before, I have never read any of Calvin's writings.

You are a Calvinist, you simply created a smokescreen by calling it Jesus' doctrine. Was Jesus a 5-pointer? No false statement.

Of course you could utterly reject and repudiate Calvinism right now and maybe I'll believe you . . . but P4t and g&t won't be your friends any more.

Scriptures prove themselves when compared to each other. Be considerate to read more of them and you might find that out.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

iF YOU ARE FREE TO CHOOSE SALVATION THEN YOU MUST BE FREE TO UN-CHOOSE IT.
Otherwise, what happened to your free will? This was the point of Arminius in his remonstrances.

Part of Methodist doctrine as well as other mainline religions that say one can "walk away" or choose to leave.
So Arminianism is still taught in churches today.

What a sad state to be in, never knowing if your works are good enough........or if you did more good than bad. and so it goes
Do they picture God getting out a scale of justice to see which way it flips??

 

[ForestGreenCook]

To that end I agree, but I would go further and say that he is the man that has progressed (or regressed) to the man we read of in Romans 1:18ff. He is not just a casual unbeliever. He has chosen to worship and serve the created rather than the Creator and has suppressed all Bible truth.

He also cannot repent of a spiritual he has broken when he does not understand spiritual things.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

"Charles Spurgeon, great and blessed London preacher, was a Calvinist though he spoke against "hyper-Calvinism," and called it that; and his hyper-Calvinist friends criticized him for preaching that "whosoever will" may come...
Spurgeon was a Calvinist and said so, but he did not accept all the doctrines of hyper-Calvinism, and he said so.
In truth, the false doctrines of hyper-Calvinism would not do so much harm if they were emphasized as little as Spurgeon emphasized them, and particularly, if those who advocate them worked unceasingly to win souls as Spurgeon did.
But why follow Spurgeon? He was human. He was an amazing preacher, an evangelist. Some think he was the greatest preacher since the Apostle Paul. But when he was wrong he was wrong. He plainly said he did not know enough about the return of Christ to preach on it. No man is perfect. It would be as foolish to follow Spurgeon in whatever part of the false doctrine of hyper-Calvinism he believed as to follow him in smoking cigars. He saw the error of smoking a little while before he went to Heaven, and I am sure he saw the errors of hyper-Calvinism, besides those he himself criticized, as soon as he reached Heaven. Why not just follow the Bible instead of Arminius or Calvin or Wesley or Spurgeon?" -Dr. John R. Rice

oh yes, Dr. John R. Rice, that prince of preachers ROFLH

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

He also cannot repent of a spiritual he has broken when he does not understand spiritual things.

The only reason that I believe he cannot repent is that he has sinned away his day of grace. He has rejected God and His Word so much that he no longer has a conscience toward God. That is why the Word says that he rejected God three times--and God rejects him three times. Three. In most the final step is homosexuality.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

ROFLH - rolling on floor laughing hysterically

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

oh yes, Dr. John R. Rice, that prince of preachers ROFLH

Yea, I quote Dr. John even though he is a Bible corrector. But he was certainly a godly man.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

I just wonder what levels in Freemasonry most of these Calvinists are . . . they had a strong past together and I can only believe they have kept it until today. Of course, Masons worship Satan. Folks might want to check out what their little red fez (hat) is all about.

Clears up a lot though, because their doctrine is purely satanic.

 

[preacher4truth]

It can't understand how a Christian of today can tie his faith back to some Renaissance patriarch that held to most of the doctrine of their parent the RCC. Calvin, Luther and all their cohorts spun off the Catholic Church and carried on with most of its false doctrine. If they would have just started over from scratch, realizing antichrist's ideals were permeating their doctrines, they might have found the true path.

Yes, I'm like you as well, and attack any person for coming out of Rome under the knowledge that salvation is by grace through faith in our LORD Jesus Christ, contrary to what they were taught otherwise by apostate Rome. Attack, attack, slander, name call, accuse!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, slander them, attack them...wait. Isn't there some evil entity made by God that does the same thing you're doing? Attack, accuse, remind of former sin? Diablos? You are exemplifying that person in your above.

I thank God that the Reformers were called out of Rome and preached the one true Gospel. It's highly likely any understanding you have of the true Gospel is in thanks partly because of their coming out and making it known.

Anyhow...carry on.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

The only reason that I believe he cannot repent is that he has sinned away his day of grace. He has rejected God and His Word so much that he no longer has a conscience toward God. That is why the Word says that he rejected God three times--and God rejects him three times. Three. In most the final step is homosexuality.

Christ died to take away all of the sins of those he died for, Yes even homosexuality.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

Christ died to take away all of the sins of those he died for, Yes even homosexuality.

Unless sodomites have sinned away their day of grace . . . and it is my view that a person doesn't become one until they have totally rejected God. Sodomites are vile creatures.

 

[garee]

They said Calvinism is a hard doctrine? No, I think Paul referred to it as another gospel.

The other (false)gospel is the one he left as Saul. Before his name was changed to "small humbled one" (Paul)

The true gospel is recognized easily by the word "many" or "as many" .

As many that are found in the lambs book of life written from before the foundation of the world..... compared to the book of life every human created . The elect will go to the right as lambs or sheep, shepherded by Christ our Sheppard and the goats as wild sheep without a Sheppard will go off to the left . As many that were freely given the authority of the father will come. Not one more or one less.

Pride always leads to the fall.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Unless sodomites have sinned away their day of grace . . . and it is my view that a person doesn't become one until they have totally rejected God. Sodomites are vile creatures.

If God rejects vile creatures, by our nature only, none of us would be saved. I am afraid that most of God's children do not understand how depraved we are by our nature.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

The other (false)gospel is the one he left as Saul. Before his name was changed to "small humbled one" (Paul)

The true gospel is recognized easily by the word "many" or "as many" .

As many that are found in the lambs book of life written from before the foundation of the world..... compared to the book of life every human created . The elect will go to the right as lambs or sheep, shepherded by Christ our Sheppard and the goats as wild sheep without a Sheppard will go off to the left . As many that were freely given the authority of the father will come. Not one more or one less.

Pride always leads to the fall.

But is it not nice that when we fall that Christ covered that fall on the cross.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If God rejects vile creatures, by our nature only, none of us would be saved. I am afraid that most of God's children do not understand how depraved we are by our nature.

I may take a new believer a lifetime to realise how sinful they are.. Yet when they come face to face with our redeemer they will know..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Christ died to take away all of the sins of those he died for, Yes even homosexuality.

He died for every sin, but one,, Rejecting the HS (blasphemy)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

He also cannot repent of a spiritual he has broken when he does not understand spiritual things.

Thank God for the HS who helps all people understand the gospel so they can have the ability to chose..