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And who is it that will believe in the things of the Spirit? Only those that have the Holy Spirit within them by God quickening them to a new spiritual life, Eph 2. The natural man, before he has been quickened to a new spiritual life, thinks that the things of the Spirit are foolishness, and he cannot discern them, 1 Cor 2:14.
If you are interpreting all of the scriptures that have the words "saved, salvation, save", in them to mean eternal salvation, you are misinterpreting the scriptures.
Save, saved, salvation, according to Greek interpretation means= deliver, delivered, deliverance. We are only delivered one time to eternal life. If we have been born again to a new spiritual life, we are delivered many times as we sojourn here on this earth. from the punishment of a sin that we commit every time we repent, and God forgives us.
If you are interpreting all of the scriptures that have the words "saved, salvation, save", in them to mean eternal salvation, you are misinterpreting the scriptures.
Save, saved, salvation, according to Greek interpretation means= deliver, delivered, deliverance. We are only delivered one time to eternal life. If we have been born again to a new spiritual life, we are delivered many times as we sojourn here on this earth. from the punishment of a sin that we commit every time we repent, and God forgives us.
Believing in spiritual things, repenting of breaking a spiritual law, confessing to a spiritual entity, being baptised, are all the actions of a person that has already been quickened to a new spiritual life, Eph 2. All of these kinds of actions are looked upon as foolishness to the natural man that has not been quickened to a new spiritual life, 1 Cor 2:14.
To me, justification and being saved is more than just a declaration (though that is part of the imagery) of innocence.
Being born again involves an actual change of the core nature of the person from the old to the new. We are no longer sinners at our core spirit level, but are new creatures (saints) in Christ Jesus. Righteousness is not just an external declaration of innocence, but at my core level I am actually changed into a new righteous nature.
Being born again involves an actual change of the core nature of the person from the old to the new. We are no longer sinners at our core spirit level, but are new creatures (saints) in Christ Jesus. Righteousness is not just an external declaration of innocence, but at my core level I am actually changed into a new righteous nature.
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No I see in context the word saved , saves , salvation , delivered ect . The context of each shows you . Like when it say s ' he who endures to the end shall be saved ' those that hold to conditional salvation and Calvinists ( The P in Tulip ) see this to mean the beginning of your walk with the Lord and till you die, not seeing the context of the Tribulation.
And I see that you may believe in Previeniant Grace ( John wesley/ Arminian ) which is similar to Calvinists version except you can resist . But you perhaps hold to a similar ' Total inabilty 'view where God has to partially regenerate you so that you can believe or reject ? Found no where in the bible however.
And I see that you may believe in Previeniant Grace ( John wesley/ Arminian ) which is similar to Calvinists version except you can resist . But you perhaps hold to a similar ' Total inabilty 'view where God has to partially regenerate you so that you can believe or reject ? Found no where in the bible however.
Once you have been quickened to a new spiritual life (born again) you cannot be unborn. All born again christians do not lose their fleshly nature and battle within themselves between the flesh and the Spirit. Paul explains this battle in Rom 9:18-23.
At the new birth, we are in Christ, and Christ is in us Eph 2:5. 2 Timothy 13, If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful, he cannot deny himself. Osas!
At the new birth, we are in Christ, and Christ is in us Eph 2:5. 2 Timothy 13, If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful, he cannot deny himself. Osas!
I have never consulted these men's writings, and my belief is that scripture proves scripture, and should be our only source of gleaning the truths contained in the scriptures, along with the revelation of the Holy Spirit within those who have been regenerated.
I do, however, use a Greek concordance, which tells me that salvation means = a deliverance.
I do, however, use a Greek concordance, which tells me that salvation means = a deliverance.
The tribulation came with the destruction of Jerusalem, and the temple where there were not one stone standing on the other.
Endureth unto the end requires works, and there is no works involved in eternal deliverance, leaving this "saved" to mean delivered here in time, by our good works.
And, yes, Jesus did not die for all mankind, only those that God gave to his Son.
Endureth unto the end requires works, and there is no works involved in eternal deliverance, leaving this "saved" to mean delivered here in time, by our good works.
And, yes, Jesus did not die for all mankind, only those that God gave to his Son.