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MsMediator

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God creates. People pro-create. God created life. We simply pass it on.

Your question is similar to a child asking its parents, why did you give birth to me knowing I would suffer and die?

The answer is of course that despite the suffering you might experience the beauty joy and wonder of life.

God's gift of life does not have to end. People choose their end by rejecting the Giver of life.

And really, expecting God to give more life to those who refuse to acknowledge Him as the
giver in the first place? Yeah. Hopefully we can all see how ridiculously unrealistic that is.
I think dying/being perished is different from eternal hell, since there is no suffering with death/being perished. Agree about not giving extra life/time to those who do not see God as giver.
 

Magenta

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#64
I think dying/being perished is different from eternal hell, since there is no suffering with death
/being perished. Agree about not giving extra life/time to those who do not see God as giver.
There is always suffering. Even to meet God while alive, Paul says (Hebrews 10:31): It is a
fearful/dreadful/terrible/terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the Living God.
Imagine
the chagrin of those who finally face the God Whom they have denied their whole lives,
knowing their end is in sight. Wailing and gnashing of teeth puts it rather aptly I think.
 

oyster67

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I think dying/being perished is different from eternal hell, since there is no suffering with death/being perished. Agree about not giving extra life/time to those who do not see God as giver.
Matthew 25:46
“And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”
 
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pottersclay

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#66
Too late....Even Catholic Pope from 20th century saw that. Today 'Christianity' is a hotbed of misguided 'believers' in $. 1971 my first exposure to Protestantism was small town Indiana. Missionary to US from Nigeria preached about idolatry in USA. Worship money.
To late?....God forbid is anything to hard for the Lord?
Things may be set in motion but GOD can stop it at anytime. GOd calls his people to repent.
Suppose this repentance is from idleness which i beleive is a big part of it. Who can really say as paul...i fought the good fight? ...Its time to rise up. But we are so occupied with pointing fingers at one another and judging that we have become somewhat of part of the problem rather than pointing to CHRIST as the solution.
 

Saul-to-Paul

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Can you rephrase the question. Sounds like wondering about judgement. Like, is God going to squash us like ants in the end?
A squashed ant has it better than an unsaved man at the end of this world.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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#68
If God actually wiped out all humanity instead of saving Noah and thus all of us are proliferating and alive and sinning and according to some, being thrown into hell unless we believe when we are alive in this temporary life which will judge our eternity
What is best is what the Bible is actively showing us, which is that God has an Eternal Plan, pre-written before the creation of all that is, that it was ultimately written for our glory. Therefore, it is critical to know and understand our Bible from a timeline, chronological perspective so that we can be sure that we understand the complete Story of God, or, the complete Gospel of Jesus Christ. And as we come to see how God has been not only our Creator but our Orchestrator as well, the Bible takes on an entirely new Presence. This Holy Book will shock you with its Mysterious Plan, which Paul unpacks (to a point) in writings, particularly Ephesians.