Will Christian Chat be labeled a Hate Group?

[Smoke]

This OP wasn't to focus on who to fund or defund but are Christians ready to face that kind on backlash that these companies have faced.

Yes, I'm ready to face the type of backlash you're showing Chick-fil-A by spreading misinformation and acting like an entitled leftist. I believe everyone has the right to have a personal relationship with their Savior, much like the Cathys do...

Thank you Chick-fil-A, for showing the courage to stand up against ignorant people knowing that you'd receive backlash for it. It's easy to say we'd do something this noble when we don't have skin in the game, but they absolutely have skin in the game and chose to be neutral politically, all-the-while still having their personal convictions individually.

 

[Desdichado]

Well, it's highly likely the Democratic party will take both houses and the Presidency again. If Trump and the Republican Senate can hold on a bit longer, the chances of there being some far Left domination of the court will drop considerably. That said, the legal profession is so compromised that you'll have the likes of Kavanaugh (yes that guy we fought tooth and nail for) make decisions on the basis of cultural pressure and a circuitous approach to "originalism."

Here is what will happen each Presidential change barring some cataclysm or divine intervention- one side will win and those aligned with the other will consider that victory illegitimate. They will opt for more state and local control.

As the OP points out- around half the country and certainly the better part of the landmass won't put up with CC being labeled a hate group. But that won't stop the other from declaring groups like CC hate groups.

 

[morefaithrequired]

Labeling cc a hate group would be wrong, but here, as everywhere else, there will always be individuals expressing opinions that easily can be interpreted as hate speech.

thats clearly hate speech susannah
youve crossed my generous boundaries by using more than one comma in a post. ive booked a session with my counsellor. Expect to hear from lawyers real soon.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Yes, I'm ready to face the type of backlash you're showing Chick-fil-A by spreading misinformation and acting like an entitled leftist. I believe everyone has the right to have a personal relationship with their Savior, much like the Cathys do...

Thank you Chick-fil-A, for showing the courage to stand up against ignorant people knowing that you'd receive backlash for it. It's easy to say we'd do something this noble when we don't have skin in the game, but they absolutely have skin in the game and chose to be neutral politically, all-the-while still having their personal convictions individually.

Thank you for all your kind words. Nothing I said isnt well known. It is all in the news. So I cannot intellectually give you my time until you research it.

 

[morefaithrequired]

My thread "Do you trust bald leaders?" was considered hate speech it appears. Or not funny enough which was highly offensive to my frail self.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Well, it's highly likely the Democratic party will take both houses and the Presidency again. If Trump and the Republican Senate can hold on a bit longer, the chances of there being some far Left domination of the court will drop considerably. That said, the legal profession is so compromised that you'll have the likes of Kavanaugh (yes that guy we fought tooth and nail for) make decisions on the basis of cultural pressure and a circuitous approach to "originalism."

Here is what will happen each Presidential change barring some cataclysm or divine intervention- one side will win and those aligned with the other will consider that victory illegitimate. They will opt for more state and local control.

As the OP points out- around half the country and certainly the better part of the landmass won't put up with CC being labeled a hate group. But that won't stop the other from declaring groups like CC hate groups.

Agreed. Christians must be ready to take the stand against illogical beliefs that spark such false opposition to the Christian. A message of love is twisted to hate. The message of Gods standards of life is twisted into hate.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

My thread "Do you trust bald leaders?" was considered hate speech it appears. Or not funny enough which was highly offensive to my frail self.

Ha what? Lol

 

[Susanna]

thats clearly hate speech susannah
youve crossed my generous boundaries by using more than one comma in a post. ive booked a session with my counsellor. Expect to hear from lawyers real soon.

See you in comma court. Period.

 

[Whispered]

Yes, I'm ready to face the type of backlash you're showing Chick-fil-A by spreading misinformation and acting like an entitled leftist. I believe everyone has the right to have a personal relationship with their Savior, much like the Cathys do...

Thank you Chick-fil-A, for showing the courage to stand up against ignorant people knowing that you'd receive backlash for it. It's easy to say we'd do something this noble when we don't have skin in the game, but they absolutely have skin in the game and chose to be neutral politically, all-the-while still having their personal convictions individually.

I think if you support CF's right to align with the LGBTQ community and against its former Christian values, that you should show consistency in supporting Christians who don't agree with that.

Furthermore, CF's decision is not politically neutral as is obvious when the company ceased to sustain Christian grounded charities and opted to support entities conduive to the LGBTQ agenda.
Customers who have skin in the game because it is their revenue that sustains the family business that is CF. They are fully entitled to be outraged at where their monies are going when those monies were garnered due to the company going public about its Christian values. Thereby engendering support in the conservative base.

Ignorance is exampled by that which upholds the right of CF to turn toward Leftist charities, and arguing for tolerance of that, while demonstrating no tolerance for Christians rightful opposition.
Chick-fil-A has money to donate to charities because of their customers. This means their customers have not only skin in the game but also the right to be outraged when they learn those monies no longer sustain Christian charities.

 

[Smoke]

Thank you for all your kind words. Nothing I said isnt well known. It is all in the news. So I cannot intellectually give you my time until you research it.

Yes or no, are you aware that Chick-fil-A said it was going to stop donating to their charities 7 years ago? Did they fulfill their commitment to the charities?

 

[Kojikun]

Just did a search on this and according to Buisness Insider this is a overreaction to Chic' s donating to groups that help hungry, homeless people regardless if they are faith based or not..

THEY STILL SUPPORT FAITH BASED CHARITIES AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. If I had a computer, I would post the Article. Mike Huckabee has enough problems of his own, and needs to resolve them rather than jump on others.

This is a bunch of hypocrites hating on Chic for supporting groups that help people in need regardless of their spiritual condition.

Seems to me Christ focused on the LOST, NEEDY people... ain't that why He came?

Y'all go on with the Thread.... it's not worth my time

I understand what you are saying, but as Roughsoul has said this is not about Chicfali per say but the matter of how much we should put up with before dropping a brand and standing with God. I dropped Netflix and I dropped all of amazon other than music. NInntendo has objectional content but I know a new generation of Christian gamers/developers who have upcoming games and I'm happy to support them. Simply put how far is too much?

 

[Smoke]

I think if you support CF's right to align with the LGBTQ community and against its former Christian values, that you should show consistency in supporting Christians who don't agree with that.

Furthermore, CF's decision is not politically neutral as is obvious when the company ceased to sustain Christian grounded charities and opted to support entities conduive to the LGBTQ agenda.
Customers who have skin in the game because it is their revenue that sustains the family business that is CF. They are fully entitled to be outraged at where their monies are going when those monies were garnered due to the company going public about its Christian values. Thereby engendering support in the conservative base.

Ignorance is exampled by that which upholds the right of CF to turn toward Leftist charities, and arguing for tolerance of that, while demonstrating no tolerance for Christians rightful opposition.
Chick-fil-A has money to donate to charities because of their customers. This means their customers have not only skin in the game but also the right to be outraged when they learn those monies no longer sustain Christian charities.

How do you, as an American Christian, NOT support CF's right to align or NOT align with whichever non-terrorist organization they see fit? Chick-fil-A can do as they please... you have the right to not eat there if you disagree, but they ought to have ultimate say in who they donate to.

No one is saying you don't have the right to be offended. I mean, people love playing the victim. The irony is that the right always accuses the left of playing victim, only I'm seeing supposed "conservatives" doing the same thing that the liberals are doing. If you can find a reason to be outraged, take it! It's so bad that the other poster says Chick-fil-A was "playing Christian" when he answered someone's question on his view of same-sex marriage. It's one thing to be upset over their decision, it's an entirely different thing to spread misinformation or act like this wasn't the plan for the PAST 7 YEARS! lol I've already posted what they said back in 2012 about stopping it. Now, suddenly, it's this blindside stab in the back?

If you're offended, then boycott them... If you're against private organizations donating to charities they deem worthy of assistance, then you live in the wrong country. Chick-fil-A was never meant to be the religious beacon of light on a hill that many of you think it was... It was there to make money for goodness sake...

 

[Smoke]

As for costumers "having skin in the game", not really... they CHOOSE to eat there. Unless a gun was put to their head, it was their choice to eat there. If a person refuses to eat at Chick-fil-A, they don't die... they don't really lose anything other than a chicken sandwich. Chick-fil-A is the one that ultimately has everything to lose depending on their stance on political issues.

Getting tired of this victim-mentality.

 

[Whispered]

How do you, as an American Christian, NOT support CF's right to align or NOT align with whichever non-terrorist organization they see fit? Chick-fil-A can do as they please... you have the right to not eat there if you disagree, but they ought to have ultimate say in who they donate to.

No one is saying you don't have the right to be offended. I mean, people love playing the victim. The irony is that the right always accuses the left of playing victim, only I'm seeing supposed "conservatives" doing the same thing that the liberals are doing. If you can find a reason to be outraged, take it! It's so bad that the other poster says Chick-fil-A was "playing Christian" when he answered someone's question on his view of same-sex marriage. It's one thing to be upset over their decision, it's an entirely different thing to spread misinformation or act like this wasn't the plan for the PAST 7 YEARS! lol I've already posted what they said back in 2012 about stopping it. Now, suddenly, it's this blindside stab in the back?

If you're offended, then boycott them... If you're against private organizations donating to charities they deem worthy of assistance, then you live in the wrong country. Chick-fil-A was never meant to be the religious beacon of light on a hill that many of you think it was... It was there to make money for goodness sake...

To put it quite simply CF chose to turn from supporting Bible grounded Christian charities due to the onslaught of pressures afforded against the chain by a terrorist group.
As a Christian I do not and cannot in good conscience support a company that chose not to endure the slings and arrows of an entirely unrepentant damned group of persons dedicated to acts of terror in order to obstinately issue forth their ultimatum, agree with our lifestyle or suffer. And while abandoning also the companies Christian principles in order to concede the aforementioned behaviors of said terrorist group were enough to generate said concession.
When a Christian company abandons Christian principles under such persecution they demonstrate they never held strongly to them in the first place. Conceding to this enemy of the cross will not make it stop. As said enemy has informed CF and after CF's decision to abandon Christian charities made news.

LGBTQ aren't going to stop, they're bolstered to go harder against the company and all Christian held companies , due to CF's concession to their tactics.
When CF can't stand behind the stronghold of Christ in the face of the tactics LGBTQ terrorists employed against them verbally, what chance does CF have to stand against the enemy of God should it come in other forms of assault?

CF chose to concede to immoral sin and sinners, thinking their abandoning God's word would call those sinners actively opposed against CF and the word off. That demonstrates not only a naivety concerning their enemy, but also a lack of immersion in the word and in the faith.

CF's religious proclamation is now invalid. The company religious standard has become Apostate.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Yes or no, are you aware that Chick-fil-A said it was going to stop donating to their charities 7 years ago? Did they fulfill their commitment to the charities?

They literally just made it public they are dropping the Fellowship of Christian athletes and the Salvation Army for a LGBTQ activist group and pro abortion group. So no they have not stopped supporting such groups.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

To be plain and simple.

John 15:18-25 New International Version (NIV)
The World Hates the Disciples
18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 Whoever hates me hates my Father as well. 24 If I had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. As it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated both me and my Father. 25 But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’

 

[Smoke]

To put it quite simply CF chose to turn from supporting Bible grounded Christian charities due to the onslaught of pressures afforded against the chain by a terrorist group.
As a Christian I do not and cannot in good conscience support a company that chose not to endure the slings and arrows of an entirely unrepentant damned group of persons dedicated to acts of terror in order to obstinately issue forth their ultimatum, agree with our lifestyle or suffer. And while abandoning also the companies Christian principles in order to concede the aforementioned behaviors of said terrorist group were enough to generate said concession.
When a Christian company abandons Christian principles under such persecution they demonstrate they never held strongly to them in the first place. Conceding to this enemy of the cross will not make it stop. As said enemy has informed CF and after CF's decision to abandon Christian charities made news.

LGBTQ aren't going to stop, they're bolstered to go harder against the company and all Christian held companies , due to CF's concession to their tactics.
When CF can't stand behind the stronghold of Christ in the face of the tactics LGBTQ terrorists employed against them verbally, what chance does CF have to stand against the enemy of God should it come in other forms of assault?

CF chose to concede to immoral sin and sinners, thinking their abandoning God's word would call those sinners actively opposed against CF and the word off. That demonstrates not only a naivety concerning their enemy, but also a lack of immersion in the word and in the faith.

CF's religious proclamation is now invalid. The company religious standard has become Apostate.

I'll concede I MAY be wrong... if you can show me their original proclamation that their company (not it's individual owners) is in fact a "religious" company.

To my knowledge, when they interviewed the Cathys, they asked a question about same sex marriage and they told them their Christian standpoint... this does not mean the entire franchise IS a reflection of their spiritual beliefs... They specifically stated that as a company they want to be neutral, but individually they are unapologetically Christian.

Christians tried making them one... but they never proclaimed anything to my knowledge...

 

[Smoke]

They literally just made it public they are dropping the Fellowship of Christian athletes and the Salvation Army for a LGBTQ activist group and pro abortion group. So no they have not stopped supporting such groups.

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mo-chickfila-gay-moreno-20120919-story.html

They just announced they fulfilled their commitment to those charities... read that article which was dated in September of 2012... Over 7 years ago... You said you can't intellectually give me your time... I would hope you would spend time understanding the facts and not hot takes and opinions... the facts are they planned this 7 years ago and it was not a blindside.

 

[Lightskin]

This OP wasn't to focus on who to fund or defund but are Christians ready to face that kind on backlash that these companies have faced.

I’m ready . . . and perhaps a little too eager for my own good.