Will Christian Chat be labeled a Hate Group?
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Quick search from what appears to be a gov website...
Public companies are not required to disclose their charitable donations.
same thing with private (although it's a bit harder to tell so I'm not quite as certain).
If anyone wants to chime in on private contribution disclosure law I'd appreciate it.
Public companies are not required to disclose their charitable donations.
same thing with private (although it's a bit harder to tell so I'm not quite as certain).
If anyone wants to chime in on private contribution disclosure law I'd appreciate it.
You may not but the Christian community was in a uproar over there decision. As explained these companies wasn't trying to play Christian.
Although Walmart was started by a Christian and was typically a good Christian company for years until just like Chic Fil A the owner dies and now Walmart is starting to allow the LGBT agenda affect their business. Just last Valentine's day they did a mini tv commercial series about dating at Walmart. It included to gay men.
Yall can defend them if you want but if you wrong, your wrong. Everyone must decide by their own conscience what they will fund and what they will not.
For example we are canceling our Netflix due to a recent release of a Christian comedy that depicts Jesus as gay. Netflix has been becoming trash for years but eventually everyone must decide how much of the evil and culture we will put up with.
This OP wasn't to focus on who to fund or defund but are Christians ready to face that kind on backlash that these companies have faced. Will we cave like they are? How much will you be able to take before you cave or will we keep standing even if it means being labeled all the hate terms and even face persecution?
Although Walmart was started by a Christian and was typically a good Christian company for years until just like Chic Fil A the owner dies and now Walmart is starting to allow the LGBT agenda affect their business. Just last Valentine's day they did a mini tv commercial series about dating at Walmart. It included to gay men.
Yall can defend them if you want but if you wrong, your wrong. Everyone must decide by their own conscience what they will fund and what they will not.
For example we are canceling our Netflix due to a recent release of a Christian comedy that depicts Jesus as gay. Netflix has been becoming trash for years but eventually everyone must decide how much of the evil and culture we will put up with.
This OP wasn't to focus on who to fund or defund but are Christians ready to face that kind on backlash that these companies have faced. Will we cave like they are? How much will you be able to take before you cave or will we keep standing even if it means being labeled all the hate terms and even face persecution?
Believe you mentioned hypocrite in one of your posts.
If a person claims to support Christian values and then supports anti Christian groups that makes them a hypocrite?
Ok.
Then, there is no difference between Chic Fil A and Christians who daily fund such groups.
Jesus talked about a splinter and a log.
Guess it's in the eye of the accuser?
As for the thread, it appears to be a hate Chic Fil A 4 doing what everyone else does. Admit it or not....
If a person claims to support Christian values and then supports anti Christian groups that makes them a hypocrite?
Ok.
Then, there is no difference between Chic Fil A and Christians who daily fund such groups.
Jesus talked about a splinter and a log.
Guess it's in the eye of the accuser?
As for the thread, it appears to be a hate Chic Fil A 4 doing what everyone else does. Admit it or not....
Okay if we want to ignore the actual reason or meaning of the OP then we can debate Chic Fil A. Tell me should a Christian organization support such anti Christian groups when there are Christian groups who do the exact same thing? Simple answer. Yes or no? If yes then prove it Biblically. If no then they Biblically are in sin.
Do you by choice or knowingly support abortion groups? Or how about LGBT groups that push that sinful agenda on our kids? Or do you by choice or knowingly support groups that are extremely progressive and fund agendas that attack the church?
Chic Fil A did it on purpose. That is like you choosing what organization you want to donate too and instead of choosing like a Billy Graham organization, you choose Planned parenthood. Obviously everyone has to give to Ceasar what is ceasars, that is Biblical but I am getting the understanding that you are okay with Chic Fil A funding such groups. They a currently a lesser of evil but the route they are going Christians should fund a local restaurant who doesn't support evil until they surrender back to God.
Do you by choice or knowingly support abortion groups? Or how about LGBT groups that push that sinful agenda on our kids? Or do you by choice or knowingly support groups that are extremely progressive and fund agendas that attack the church?
Chic Fil A did it on purpose. That is like you choosing what organization you want to donate too and instead of choosing like a Billy Graham organization, you choose Planned parenthood. Obviously everyone has to give to Ceasar what is ceasars, that is Biblical but I am getting the understanding that you are okay with Chic Fil A funding such groups. They a currently a lesser of evil but the route they are going Christians should fund a local restaurant who doesn't support evil until they surrender back to God.
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Just did a search on this and according to Buisness Insider this is a overreaction to Chic' s donating to groups that help hungry, homeless people regardless if they are faith based or not..
THEY STILL SUPPORT FAITH BASED CHARITIES AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. If I had a computer, I would post the Article. Mike Huckabee has enough problems of his own, and needs to resolve them rather than jump on others.
This is a bunch of hypocrites hating on Chic for supporting groups that help people in need regardless of their spiritual condition.
Seems to me Christ focused on the LOST, NEEDY people... ain't that why He came?
Y'all go on with the Thread.... it's not worth my time
THEY STILL SUPPORT FAITH BASED CHARITIES AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. If I had a computer, I would post the Article. Mike Huckabee has enough problems of his own, and needs to resolve them rather than jump on others.
This is a bunch of hypocrites hating on Chic for supporting groups that help people in need regardless of their spiritual condition.
Seems to me Christ focused on the LOST, NEEDY people... ain't that why He came?
Y'all go on with the Thread.... it's not worth my time
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Nice post
Particularly "just because we read some words at them."
Without an encounter with "the word" and conviction/submitting...you can't really get anywhere. Other than what I call "soil softening/tilling/fertilizing" which can go a long way if they eventually have their eyes open and choose to live according to the word.
I'm uncertain what you are confused about. I was curious how this information came to be known that is all.
Not regarding the information in the CFA thread before about "CFA bowing to the god of mammon" or some such. This seems to be some new information...so checking sourcing and why they would knowingly release the information is a mystery to me at present, when they are not legally required to do so.
I'm mostly curious if this was intentional or not.
I definitely ran it through my thought process whilst working for a period of time...your thread title is a likelihood, and as a result I think it wise to privately work out a way to couche what is said. Currently Proverbs 25:11 (and 12, although that may have "slightly" different application) bears relevancy in my life.
This in contrast to shout it out from the rooftops. Or to anyone that has an ear, let him hear!
Not direct contrast, but I think each person needs to figure out where they stand on open declarations, as well as what the word says. There are times to be clandestine and times to shout. Each situation is different. You can see elements of subterfuge in the OT particularly with David. Also relevant, is the contextual application and meaning of shout. You can "shout" silently by body language alone. Same with just written/typed words.
However, a cowardice vs courage element must be analyzed and examined depending on the context of each situation where one chooses to remain silent or not. Anon or not.
We do have that choice, and I don't think it is directly opposed to scripture. It is unclear to me at present on what the next steps are ...so I'm simply assimilating information.
There is a lot of wisdom in proverbs that I think can be often overlooked, it is quite practical for current situations.
My habit is simply going based of what has been sown through readings over 20 years but it has been quite a long time since I've held the practice of reading proverbs regularly. Much like people snip out large portions of Job and only focus on the beginning and the end. I also did this until quite recently, and there is certainly something to be gleaned.
In regards to the corporation on the block at present, corporations are a bit more loosely defined in regard to morality and are difficult to pin down. It also brings up topics about wealth in general about errors/misuse that may practically be beyond any of our ability to judge. Our energy is a type of wealth that each of us possesses. Our strength. What we spend it on and what we support should be analyzed critically/honestly before casting stones. I myself don't feel as though I am in a position to cast any. I focus on the tiny details of my life at present and this keeps me silent in a lot of areas. It is either prudence or deception. I am open to the truth of either, and will NOT remain silent when it becomes clear.
As an aside, I don't see many avenues to remain above reproach in today's world making peace with all men and attaining a standard of pecuniary wealth that would be defined as "rich". It is quite surprising that they have maintained this long in the general public's eyes, and it is a potentiality that their motivation is being illuminated for the benefit of the body. Discernment is a practice. I leave it up to the Lord to expand how this is a benefit.
Btw, I'm not saying this @ you specifically. Just generally speaking, as I am uncertain how long my time here will be.
That's good to read. Thus far your contribution has been to bad mouth Christians using artificial umbrage that transparently seeks to focus on CF.
November 20, Chick-fil-A flip-flop? Chain won't rule out donating to Christian groups
LGBT pressure isn't letting up.
Fast-food favorite Chick-fil-A hasn't ruled out donating to organizations that promote traditional marriage as LGBTQ rights groups continue to express doubts about the chain after it stopped giving to The Salvation Army and Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
"Our goal is to donate to the most effective organizations in the areas of education, homelessness and hunger. No organization will be excluded from future consideration – faith based or non-faith based," Tim Tassopoulos, president and COO of Chick-fil-A, said in a statement.....
"....The loss of funding from the chain, famous for refusing to open on Sundays because of its founder's religious beliefs, is significant to the two faith-based organizations. In 2017 and 2018, the Chick-fil-A Foundation gave $2.4 million to the Missouri-based Fellowship of Christian Athletes for sports camps for underserved youth, and $165,000 to the Salvation Army to buy Christmas gifts for needy children.
Both groups stood for traditional marriage. Chick-fil-A's giving announcement on Monday was greeted with "cautious optimism" by LGBTQ rights group GLAAD, which said Chick-fil-A has made similar pledges before.
Drew Anderson, GLAAD's director of campaigns and rapid response, said if Chick-fil-A wants to be taken seriously, it should disavow its anti-gay reputation and ensure restaurants are safe for gay employees.
Meanwhile, LGBT-interest websites ran headlines like "Remember, Chick-fil-A isn't LGBTQ-friendly yet" at LGBTQ Nation and "Chick-fil-A Still Isn't LGBTQ-Friendly, Despite Pledge on Donations" at Advocate. "
CF is pandering to the wrong market. When they think to quell the LGBTQ outrage against CF's former sponsoring of Christian, Bible based, charities who held to family values by stopping funds to those charities, the LGBTQ community wasn't going to quiet down. This was only going to spur them on thinking their tactics had just gained them a victory over a company that was very public about holding to Christian values. Which they now very publicly announce they've abdicated. That won't stop the LGBTQ, it will fuel their fire to go further!
A company that succumbs to the pressure exerted by a fringe element radically opposed to tolerating Christians and their God based values is not strong enough to uphold the standard of the cross of Christ, and all that He suffered so as to bring Salvation to the world. Including LGBTQ peoples.
Furthermore, rather than it being a generative cause that the LGBTQ are dedicated to this campaign of harassment, we should recognize that the fringe members of such a hate group are publicly insisting a private Christian corporation should not be tolerated for donating its revenue where it see's fit.
Insisting a corporation that operates based on Christian values should not be tolerated should make the fringe of the LGBTQ the bad guys here, damned, unashamed, and inclined toward terror tactics so as to afford success of their agenda, which is to insure Christian values are not tolerated when they oppose LGBTQ values, is contrary to not only basic freedoms of the individual but is also transparently fascist in declaring Christian values must condescend to terror tactics exercised by radical LGBTQ bigots.
Chick-fil-A, arrived at their decision to abandon Bible based Christian charities years ago once those donor contracts with those three organizations named in the article expired. This isn't something that just happened, this was years in the planning.
CF is learning the hard way that you don't placate evil by abandoning righteousness so as to think evil will alter its coarse against you. CF is learning that instead, evil will feel vindicated in its cause and shall double down on bringing more pressure to bear until what it sees as its foe, a Christian values based corporation, succumbs entirely.
Chick-fil-A is a shame. But not near as great of one as the intolerant anti-Christian, "Christophobe", bigots of the LGBTQ.
November 20, Chick-fil-A flip-flop? Chain won't rule out donating to Christian groups
LGBT pressure isn't letting up.
Fast-food favorite Chick-fil-A hasn't ruled out donating to organizations that promote traditional marriage as LGBTQ rights groups continue to express doubts about the chain after it stopped giving to The Salvation Army and Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
"Our goal is to donate to the most effective organizations in the areas of education, homelessness and hunger. No organization will be excluded from future consideration – faith based or non-faith based," Tim Tassopoulos, president and COO of Chick-fil-A, said in a statement.....
"....The loss of funding from the chain, famous for refusing to open on Sundays because of its founder's religious beliefs, is significant to the two faith-based organizations. In 2017 and 2018, the Chick-fil-A Foundation gave $2.4 million to the Missouri-based Fellowship of Christian Athletes for sports camps for underserved youth, and $165,000 to the Salvation Army to buy Christmas gifts for needy children.
Both groups stood for traditional marriage. Chick-fil-A's giving announcement on Monday was greeted with "cautious optimism" by LGBTQ rights group GLAAD, which said Chick-fil-A has made similar pledges before.
Drew Anderson, GLAAD's director of campaigns and rapid response, said if Chick-fil-A wants to be taken seriously, it should disavow its anti-gay reputation and ensure restaurants are safe for gay employees.
Meanwhile, LGBT-interest websites ran headlines like "Remember, Chick-fil-A isn't LGBTQ-friendly yet" at LGBTQ Nation and "Chick-fil-A Still Isn't LGBTQ-Friendly, Despite Pledge on Donations" at Advocate. "
CF is pandering to the wrong market. When they think to quell the LGBTQ outrage against CF's former sponsoring of Christian, Bible based, charities who held to family values by stopping funds to those charities, the LGBTQ community wasn't going to quiet down. This was only going to spur them on thinking their tactics had just gained them a victory over a company that was very public about holding to Christian values. Which they now very publicly announce they've abdicated. That won't stop the LGBTQ, it will fuel their fire to go further!
A company that succumbs to the pressure exerted by a fringe element radically opposed to tolerating Christians and their God based values is not strong enough to uphold the standard of the cross of Christ, and all that He suffered so as to bring Salvation to the world. Including LGBTQ peoples.
Furthermore, rather than it being a generative cause that the LGBTQ are dedicated to this campaign of harassment, we should recognize that the fringe members of such a hate group are publicly insisting a private Christian corporation should not be tolerated for donating its revenue where it see's fit.
Insisting a corporation that operates based on Christian values should not be tolerated should make the fringe of the LGBTQ the bad guys here, damned, unashamed, and inclined toward terror tactics so as to afford success of their agenda, which is to insure Christian values are not tolerated when they oppose LGBTQ values, is contrary to not only basic freedoms of the individual but is also transparently fascist in declaring Christian values must condescend to terror tactics exercised by radical LGBTQ bigots.
Chick-fil-A, arrived at their decision to abandon Bible based Christian charities years ago once those donor contracts with those three organizations named in the article expired. This isn't something that just happened, this was years in the planning.
CF is learning the hard way that you don't placate evil by abandoning righteousness so as to think evil will alter its coarse against you. CF is learning that instead, evil will feel vindicated in its cause and shall double down on bringing more pressure to bear until what it sees as its foe, a Christian values based corporation, succumbs entirely.
Chick-fil-A is a shame. But not near as great of one as the intolerant anti-Christian, "Christophobe", bigots of the LGBTQ.
For many of us it is old news. I used your search criteria. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Has+Chic+Fil+A+stopped+funding+Christian+charities&t=ffcm&ia=web
Below is just one article that showed among many.
Chick fil-A to stop supporting Christian charities following LGBT fallout
Below is just one article that showed among many.
Chick fil-A to stop supporting Christian charities following LGBT fallout
For someone who speaks against the left, you certainly have no problem using their M.O. by spreading misinformation. Chick-fil-A said 7 years ago they were going to stop donating to organizations that are vocally against same-sex marriages. Stop acting like entitled leftists when a PRIVATE corporation does what it says it's going to do. Isn't that why the right love Trump so much? He is doing what he said he was going to do? But now we spread a false narative that "Chic Fil A throws the Christian charities under the bus for simply saying they believe in traditional marriage."
This is a PERFECT example of why I can't stand the Republican party. I disagree with the Democrat more, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be a puppet to the Republican party who uses the exact same tactics the Democrats use.
This is a PERFECT example of why I can't stand the Republican party. I disagree with the Democrat more, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be a puppet to the Republican party who uses the exact same tactics the Democrats use.
Maybe you should google it? Maybe you should read the statement the Cathys made about why they announced they would stop over 7 years ago? Maybe you should believe them when they say, to this day, they are still FOR traditional marriage personally... key word "personally". They don't need to write "Homosexuality is an abomination unto the Lord" above all their entrances... They don't even need to pay $1 to any charity you think is worthwhile. All they have to do is sell their food and pay their taxes.
"As explained these companies wasn't trying to play Christian."
So when someone sat down with the owner and asked HIS personal beliefs towards same-sex marriage and he answered honestly, "he was just playing Christian?" Yikes... leftist mentality...
You realize that a national franchise chain and an individual are two entirely separate things rights? Chick-fil-A is made up of multiple individuals who may or may not have the same beliefs. Chick-fil-A wants to be neutral, but they still hold onto their PERSONAL convictions. This doesn't make them "fake Christians" or "playing Christian"... It just sounds like a bunch of bitter children who are upset and bitter.
I supported Chick-fil-A when the owner made public his PERSONAL views, and I support Chick-fil-A even after they announced they would stop donating to charities that are vocally against same-sex marriage 7 year ago. They have the right to run their business and have personal/individual beliefs in spite of what the leftists and right wingers who are acting leftist have to say/feel about it.
So when someone sat down with the owner and asked HIS personal beliefs towards same-sex marriage and he answered honestly, "he was just playing Christian?" Yikes... leftist mentality...
You realize that a national franchise chain and an individual are two entirely separate things rights? Chick-fil-A is made up of multiple individuals who may or may not have the same beliefs. Chick-fil-A wants to be neutral, but they still hold onto their PERSONAL convictions. This doesn't make them "fake Christians" or "playing Christian"... It just sounds like a bunch of bitter children who are upset and bitter.
I supported Chick-fil-A when the owner made public his PERSONAL views, and I support Chick-fil-A even after they announced they would stop donating to charities that are vocally against same-sex marriage 7 year ago. They have the right to run their business and have personal/individual beliefs in spite of what the leftists and right wingers who are acting leftist have to say/feel about it.