Why is CCM having music labels change artists songs?

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JohnDB

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I laugh because... well, I don't think I am really interested in those types of games, which is probably a good thing ;):D
It's a series of sci-fi movies...not a game.

Also has a sub series of Aliens vs Predator...

I'm a huge sci-fi fan...so much of it is pure garbage but good sci-fi is like a jewel amongst the glass fakes. And so very often mistaken for a glass jewel.

The '87 Predator is actually the best of the series...but at first it comes across as a piece of Macho trash.

Same thing can be said with gems like Starship Troopers....it looks like a "b" movie at first glance...but the heavy irony and subtle sarcasm is usually overlooked.

There's a lot of good sci-fi commonly known about like the original Star Wars trilogy...the later additions....meh...not so much.

I absolutely love Cowboys vs Aliens...

I absolutely love artistry and creativity and especially craftsmanship... there's one time flashers and beacons...I really prefer the beacons. They usually remain popular for a long time and often nobody understands why.
 

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Fireflight used to open for Casting Crowns....
I went to see Casting Crowns in concert and was absolutely enthralled with Fireflight's performance and absolutely disgusted by Casting Crown's performance...the headliners should have been swapped.
I never seen where Dawn opened for Casting Crowns, odd.
 

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It's a series of sci-fi movies...not a game.

Also has a sub series of Aliens vs Predator...

I'm a huge sci-fi fan...so much of it is pure garbage but good sci-fi is like a jewel amongst the glass fakes. And so very often mistaken for a glass jewel.

The '87 Predator is actually the best of the series...but at first it comes across as a piece of Macho trash.

Same thing can be said with gems like Starship Troopers....it looks like a "b" movie at first glance...but the heavy irony and subtle sarcasm is usually overlooked.

There's a lot of good sci-fi commonly known about like the original Star Wars trilogy...the later additions....meh...not so much.

I absolutely love Cowboys vs Aliens...

I absolutely love artistry and creativity and especially craftsmanship... there's one time flashers and beacons...I really prefer the beacons. They usually remain popular for a long time and often nobody understands why.
The linked page does say: The series has led to numerous novels, comics, and video game spin-offs such as Predator: Concrete Jungle (2005) and Predator: Hunting Grounds (2020), both of which received generally mixed reviews. :D Sci-fi used to be one of my favorite movie genres, and I do still enjoy a good story of that type. Contact was my number one movie for quite a few years, during which time I watched it repeatedly. I have probably seen it too many times to enjoy again by now :unsure::giggle::geek: I was never a Star Wars fan but did immensely enjoy The Fifth Element, and Star Gate (not the series). When they start getting into stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy, I can be entertained but start losing interest, and super hero movies are one of my least faves, though I have enjoyed some of them (like Ant Man and the Wasp and oh! Iron Man :D How can anyone dislike Robert Downey Jr? :giggle: I am impressed with how he shaped up and turned his life around :)).

Have you seen The Midnight Sky? Very slow moving which normally drives me to distraction but intriguing enough to hold my interest :)
 

JohnDB

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I never seen where Dawn opened for Casting Crowns, odd.
It was here in Nashville TN at least 6-8 maybe even 10 years ago that my wife and I seen them...we were actually talking about it just last week.
She kept calling them Firefly... LoL... like I said, it's been a while.
But before that concert I never paid much attention to their music...they were so much better in concert than their recorded music suggested. I was truly pleasantly surprised.
 

JohnDB

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The linked page does say: The series has led to numerous novels, comics, and video game spin-offs such as Predator: Concrete Jungle (2005) and Predator: Hunting Grounds (2020), both of which received generally mixed reviews. :D Sci-fi used to be one of my favorite movie genres, and I do still enjoy a good story of that type. Contact was my number one movie for quite a few years, during which time I watched it repeatedly. I have probably seen it too many times to enjoy again by now :unsure::giggle::geek: I was never a Star Wars fan but did immensely enjoy The Fifth Element, and Star Gate (not the series). When they start getting into stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy, I can be entertained but start losing interest, and super hero movies are one of my least faves, though I have enjoyed some of them (like Ant Man and the Wasp and oh! Iron Man :D How can anyone dislike Robert Downey Jr? :giggle: I am impressed with how he shaped up and turned his life around :)).

Have you seen The Midnight Sky? Very slow moving which normally drives me to distraction but intriguing enough to hold my interest :)
Guardians of the Galaxy is not exactly my cup of tea...too much quippy humor and sarcastic dialogue for my tastes.

It's entertaining for a lot of people and I get that...just not my flavor.

My biggest beef with the Lord of the Ring series and Hobbit series is that they left some extremely crucial elements described in the books out of the movies...they had 2½ hours...those crucial elements were of course the transparent Christian themes and human natures contained in the books. They explained why Christians so often fail at living Christian lives...both on a corporate and individual level.
An almost paradox considering the characters and setting the story is set in.
But overall the movies were nice visualizations of the books.
 

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It was here in Nashville TN at least 6-8 maybe even 10 years ago that my wife and I seen them...we were actually talking about it just last week.
She kept calling them Firefly... LoL... like I said, it's been a while.
But before that concert I never paid much attention to their music...they were so much better in concert than their recorded music suggested. I was truly pleasantly surprised.
Dawn has worked hard on the music with Wendy majority of the times when the songs are composed. It is funny, all the guys are from here in Florida and I know Dawn and her family well. Great people!
Casting Crowns is a band that my hubby had a nephew that used to play in the group. The red headed drummer boy of course. They are all genuine guys as well, unfortunately, their music is all cookie cutter though. Every now and then, I love hearing some of their raw and authentic music that you will not hear on an album, or at a concert, nor even on the radio.
 

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Dawn has worked hard on the music with Wendy majority of the times when the songs are composed. It is funny, all the guys are from here in Florida and I know Dawn and her family well. Great people!
Casting Crowns is a band that my hubby had a nephew that used to play in the group. The red headed drummer boy of course. They are all genuine guys as well, unfortunately, their music is all cookie cutter though. Every now and then, I love hearing some of their raw and authentic music that you will not hear on an album, or at a concert, nor even on the radio.
And that's the stuff that is the best...
But with the pandemics and stuff... sitting around a bonfire with a few friends and listening to that sort of music performed by friends? Absolutely priceless...that's the stuff that can't be bought or sold. That's the stuff legends are made of...and increasing in popularity.
 

JohnDB

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That stuff I mentioned above...super highly prized by too few people...but a few miss it when it's gone.

The candies and cookies I make at Christmas...OK you can buy something close to the same quality...but they weren't made by a friend and are extremely expensive...

24 pieces of candy at $4/ea....yeah... very few people pay that sort of thing for just a memory.
Especially when I handed them to you and said "Merry Christmas...you are loved and not forgotten".
 
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That stuff I mentioned above...super highly prized by too few people...but a few miss it when it's gone.

The candies and cookies I make at Christmas...OK you can buy something close to the same quality...but they weren't made by a friend and are extremely expensive...

24 pieces of candy at $4/ea....yeah... very few people pay that sort of thing for just a memory.
Especially when I handed them to you and said "Merry Christmas...you are loved and not forgotten".
How can i view these candies?

I never thought candies would be intrigeing. <----- i know..it is mispelled.
 

JohnDB

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How can i view these candies?

I never thought candies would be intrigeing. <----- i know..it is mispelled.
Christmas candies and cookies .

Here's some I did for a party several years ago...
Last year I put the candy in professional boxes with trays and cookies on a platter for individual families.
 

Magenta

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I'm a huge sci-fi fan...so much of it is pure garbage but good sci-fi is like a
jewel amongst the glass fakes. And so very often mistaken for a glass jewel.
I used to relish reading some sci fi also, and have really enjoyed the Philip K. Dick
works I've seen that have been adapted/modernized for the big (and small) screen:


Blade Runner
Total Recall

The Man in the High Castle
The Adjustment Bureau
Screamers
Radio Free Albemuth
Next

A Scanner Darkly
Paycheck
Minority Report
The Crystal Crypt
Barjo
Total Recall 2070

Imposter

I have seen most of those... Back to the music biz... since watching the documentary on David Geffen 12 days ago, I've had Joni Mitchell's Free Man In Paris playing through my mind, especially the chorus, though i is one song I know all he words for LOL. The studio version of this song was on Joni's Court and Spark release of 1974 which is one of my faves of hers... apparently it is about her music agent/producer, David Geffen, who from many accounts was a wonderful and very successful music producer and later, also a movie producer. His first record label, Asylum, signed many up-and-coming acts including Joni, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Jackson Brown, The Eagles, Tom Waits, Linda Ronstadt, plus Bob Dylan and The Band, among others. He was known to be very nurturing and protective of the artists under his care. Joni wrote this song about him when they vacationed together in Paris with Robbie Robertson and his wife. It is so interesting to get a more intimate look into the lives of the people who bring us all these movies and the music that mark such memorable milestones in our lives.


Joni Mitchell - Free Man In Paris (Live London 1983)

I was a free man in Paris
I felt unfettered and alive
There was nobody calling me up for favours
And no one's future to decide
You know I'd go back there tomorrow
But for the work I've taken on
Stoking the star maker machinery
Behind the popular song


Even though she is clearly singing from a male perspective, before seeing the
movie, for some reason I had thought the song was autobiographical
:oops::giggle:

PS~ very much a fan of the LoTR movies :)
 

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And that's the stuff that is the best...
But with the pandemics and stuff... sitting around a bonfire with a few friends and listening to that sort of music performed by friends? Absolutely priceless...that's the stuff that can't be bought or sold. That's the stuff legends are made of...and increasing in popularity.
Exactly
 

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This is why I tend toward less mainstream styles. Even smaller labels tend to be less controlling and allow more freedom for bands and musicians.
The biggest controversies among some of the music I listen to aren't label based but recording/production based. With digital recording the norm bands can just play their parts once, then the producer can simply copy/paste the song together and the band may never play the song all the way through in studio.
Or not using the actual drummer to record but programming the drums in.
Things like this cause a stir as many feel they are not getting what they paid for. But usually these bands get their money from touring and merch sales more than albums. No radio play for these bands. YouTube and sites like bandcamp are their ways to get out there.
But at least the bands are writing their own music and doing what they want. And often the musicianship displayed is on another level.
 

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And that's the stuff that is the best...
But with the pandemics and stuff... sitting around a bonfire with a few friends and listening to that sort of music performed by friends? Absolutely priceless...that's the stuff that can't be bought or sold. That's the stuff legends are made of...and increasing in popularity.
Or hanging with friends in those groups jamming at the beach! This is where I live
 

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Christmas candies and cookies .

Here's some I did for a party several years ago...
Last year I put the candy in professional boxes with trays and cookies on a platter for individual families.
Very impressive.
You got a gift sir.

Could a guy like me just buy some at walmart and jazz them up for a nice profit?
Lol
 
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It was here in Nashville TN at least 6-8 maybe even 10 years ago that my wife and I seen them...we were actually talking about it just last week.
She kept calling them Firefly... LoL... like I said, it's been a while.
But before that concert I never paid much attention to their music...they were so much better in concert than their recorded music suggested. I was truly pleasantly surprised.
I love casting crowns.

"Lifesong" resonates deeply....
 

JohnDB

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I could say "made in USA," "assembled in USA"

" REBUILT" MAYBE?
My wife and I usually peruse the various candy shops to get new ideas for various candy to make.

You would think that she has learned her lesson by the third time to not waste money in them on the chocolates...

They don't use real chocolate but charge like it is. Then the centers are also usually not the best flavor either because they use chemical flavorings instead of natural flavors.
She takes a taste and usually spits them right back out...every time.

It's usually this way....I can make a mounds candy bar from store bought coconut and other ingredients and put a genuine mounds bar right next to it unwrapped...make you take a taste test and declare of which is which and which tastes better.
Mounds loses every time with everybody. Too much processing erodes the flavors and chemical additives will change the taste too.

Where I might make a couple thousand pieces a year a candy manufacturer will make 10,000 an hour.
Of course it's going to be different...and I use better quality of ingredients than the commercial companies.

This year I'm kinda sweating it.... Callebaut is producing but at limited capacity. I use around 2 11 lb bars (22lbs) every year... usually I can get them between $60-$70 per bar...last year was tough...first they sent the wrong chocolate and then finally I got the right kind at the last minute. It also was more expensive than usual.

I'm looking for a supplier but I'm having issues getting the right chocolate at a reasonable price. It's expensive this year if you can find any. On top of this Amazon has been finding excuses to not pay their vendors... making many pull from their website. I'm going to have to find some place to supply me.

This pandemic is making things difficult...
I don't think that there will be any parties this year... maybe if we can get the variant vaccines. Otherwise it's back to hand deliveries.

Might be moving this next year too...dunno. might not happen...but maybe just a few gingerbread houses.
 

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@JohnDB wow! I just looked up where one can possibly buy Callebaut Chocolate,
and the first site where I explored one of the vendors to find it is selling for over
$200.00 for 50 pounds! What was called "Ancient Dark" is selling for $234.62 o_O


Here is the link and a store finder is here :)
 

JohnDB

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@JohnDB wow! I just looked up where one can possibly buy Callebaut Chocolate,
and the first site where I explored one of the vendors to find it is selling for over
$200.00 for 50 pounds! What was called "Ancient Dark" is selling for $234.62 o_O


Here is the link and a store finder is here :)
The one I need is 54% cocoa and has a fluidity of three out of five...(exactly like the label in the pictures... N⁰ 811 and no letters after the number

Where the link you provided has a great price...I'm not exactly sure which of the 15-20 different varieties of semisweet Callebut makes.

I might have to get the callets this year...I got a line on a 22# box (10 kg) but it tends to be a bit pricier than the 5kg bars...but it takes chopping first.