Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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Not sure how you can say you agree with me then add words to what I said - I said we are not saved by "faith alone" simply because this is not a Biblical expression! Saying we are not saved by "faith alone" is quite different from saying we are saved by doing God's will and repenting. My view 
But then if that faith works it is not alone . . . ??
I make some sense out of your idea here - but I think there is no need at all to differentiate how we are saved at the point of salvation or during our ongoing walk with God.
But then if that faith works it is not alone . . . ??
I make some sense out of your idea here - but I think there is no need at all to differentiate how we are saved at the point of salvation or during our ongoing walk with God.
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Not sure how you can say you agree with me then add words to what I said - I said we are not saved by "faith alone" simply because this is not a Biblical expression! Saying we are not saved by "faith alone" is quite different from saying we are saved by doing God's will and repenting. My view
But then if that faith works it is not alone . . . ??
I make some sense out of your idea here - but I think there is no need at all to differentiate how we are saved at the point of salvation or during our ongoing walk with God.
But then if that faith works it is not alone . . . ??
I make some sense out of your idea here - but I think there is no need at all to differentiate how we are saved at the point of salvation or during our ongoing walk with God.
"Faith alone" was the rallying cry of the Reformation, an important concept because the RC church had added a pile of works actually in the place of faith.
But I agree it does not explain the path of salvation in and of itself.
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We can deal with people as unbelievers fine, it is just not accepting them as part of the
brethren. People make their choices, it is not something we have to engage with unless
opportunity arises.
Interestingly on forums, it means sharing perspectives and expecting abuse, but simply
ignoring it. This is not just a place one to one, it is a public forum where we represent
our position, and it is important to represent it fairly as the Lord leads.
When believers go into other peoples space, and they reject the gospel, we can withdraw,
because it is not a public arena. God bless you
brethren. People make their choices, it is not something we have to engage with unless
opportunity arises.
Interestingly on forums, it means sharing perspectives and expecting abuse, but simply
ignoring it. This is not just a place one to one, it is a public forum where we represent
our position, and it is important to represent it fairly as the Lord leads.
When believers go into other peoples space, and they reject the gospel, we can withdraw,
because it is not a public arena. God bless you
I wonder how anyone can say God cannot do this or that, or saints cannot rebel and fall.
How many stories are their of sinners who become servants of God and then fall under judgement?
The whole story of the prodigal son is the son chooses to leave and chooses to come back.
There is no promise of being safe except before the left and after they returned.
So insecure are some, to know you are loved is not enough, you need to imprisoned and
shackled so you cannot leave. But this is absurd as nothing in heaven has been created this
way. It is not part of Gods nature as demonstrated by the cross. God bless you
How many stories are their of sinners who become servants of God and then fall under judgement?
The whole story of the prodigal son is the son chooses to leave and chooses to come back.
There is no promise of being safe except before the left and after they returned.
So insecure are some, to know you are loved is not enough, you need to imprisoned and
shackled so you cannot leave. But this is absurd as nothing in heaven has been created this
way. It is not part of Gods nature as demonstrated by the cross. God bless you
in Christ Himself there is no sin and never was and never shall be .. we are to strive to live in Christ and the Father and Holy Spirit and they will live in us .. BUT no unrepentant sinner can live in God and God will not live in any unrepentant sinner .. the focus is repentance .. only those who have attained righteousness will live in and with God for all eternity and on our way to attaining final righteousness we still succumb to sin and those who are sincerely sorry will ALWAYS repent aka turn back to God aka change from doing their will to once again doing God's Holy Will .. God loves all sinners but hates all sins, so He will help sinners overcome sin but He will not tolerate nor condone nor save unrepentant sinners as such are serving Satan only, not God ..
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murder is a sin and sin ends in death BUT David and Moses REPENTED and that is what saved them .. they "returned" to God and "changed" from doing their Will back to doing God's Will .. we all sin and only repentance can restore the life from death sin brings .. no repentance no forgiveness and no forgiveness no salvation aka eternity in lake of fire with Satan and his demons, the unbelievers, and the unrepenting sinner believers
