Why do people on this site hate the Catholic Church?

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Lanolin

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you cant earn your way to heaven and sadly that is what a lot of catholics believe.

so all we try to do is show catholics scripture so they know they dont actually owe money to the Pope.
I had a catholic workmate who said her family has to tithe 10 percent to the Pope otherwise they cant enter heaven. I dont think she was joking. Her family even went on pilgrimage to the Vatican just to see him.

I asked her what did he say? She said he stood in the square and said God bless the people. hmm well not being catholic I dont know if I would fly halfway around the world just to see the Pope.
 

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I don't hate the Catholic church. In fact, I was born and raised a Catholic and attended weekly mass well into my adulthood, While I no longer attend due to my perception of certain doctrinal differences and practices that may be contrary to scripture I believe that most Catholics are just as Christian as many others are that subscribe to and practice in weekly church services in other main denominations.

It is not your particular denomination or church attendance that provides salvation. This comes only through the shed blood of Jesus dying on the cross for the remission of contritely confessed sin and inviting the Holy Spirit to live inside of you to comfort and guide in the life-long repentance process.

The Catholic church does not deny both the Father and the Son. In fact, the Catholic church believes in the triune nature of God, three separate entities comprising one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The salvation process and the trinity of God is acknowledged during each church service.
 
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OK. I won't post any more here.

To all,

I didn't join this forum to start pushing Catholic beliefs but I am ready to explain and defend them to those who are open to discussion. For that reason I don't want to start threads on particularly Catholic topics. But if you want to I'm happy to talk. I think it's better to start a new thread - in the Bible Discussion forum - so that others will see it and perhaps join in.

Please can you keep it to one topic per thread. "Shopping lists" of supposed Catholic errors are unproductive and descend into chaos - even quicker than normal threads.

It's my belief that Catholic teachings are much misunderstood. There are many Protestant sites that seem to specialise in promoting distorted versions (justforcatholics is a good example).

Here is another suggestion. Start a topic with an open ended question rather than an attack such as PennEdd's "Your response to the Satanic catholic doctrine of purgatory and indulgences?"

Final point. No Catholic doctrine (properly understood) contradicts scripture (properly interpreted).
If this is in fact true then produce an answer to this post .......

https://christianchat.com/threads/catholicism-vs-protestantism.190982/post-4197902

You can answer it here.... I would really like to see how you defend this belief.
 

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I personally LOVE Catholics, they are generous, kind, truly loving people! The world has benefited greatly from a lot of cathoic services, hospitals, schools, selfless acting belivers in Christ. I almost became a Catholic last year because the service was beautiful, and well thought out, the ritual was comforting, the Peace to your neighbor bit, was especially nice. That said, when I went to the Catholic class, I was not in agreement with the Pope is the Christ on Earth bit, nor the Mary is the same as god thing, its polytheistic,
I personally am a Monotheist-Like the dear lord Jesus, Also, the institution that hides Predators and send them around the world to molest children - and rape people - is not my favorite...But this specific Pope is over the top with his merchandising, and world embracing statements - in direct opposition of the word of god.
The Catholic church is the most generous charitable organization on the face of the earth. Your post was concise and on target. I personally love Catholics too. I am in agreement with you also that the service is beautiful and well thought out and that the ritual is comforting. I have attended many church of other denominations and always left feeling that something was lacking. It was only during a Catholic service that I felt peace in my mind and joy in my heart.
 
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The Catholic church is the most generous charitable organization on the face of the earth. Your post was concise and on target. I personally love Catholics too. I am in agreement with you also that the service is beautiful and well thought out and that the ritual is comforting. I have attended many church of other denominations and always left feeling that something was lacking. It was only during a Catholic service that I felt peace in my mind and joy in my heart.
God Bless you, Sir❤️.
 
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You are willfully seeking to misinterpret what i am saying to declare that i am supporting the hating of other people.. Any honest person having read my posts in this thread would know that i am talking only about hating evil.. Not hating people..

I challenge anyone reading this to go back and quote where i have supported the hating of people.. You will not find it..
You don't even see what you're doing there. That's pathetic. You're no one to preach to me.
 

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You don't even see what you're doing there. That's pathetic. You're no one to preach to me.
I will preach the truth to anyone and everyone.. People can decide to accept or reject what i say.. You can declare what i say pathetic.. That's your judgement upon what i have shared.. The LORD shall judge and the truth shall be revealed to all..
 

Lanolin

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anyone who is catholic on here just let you know those who arent catholic dont hate you.
I have friends who are catholic and ex catholic.
the ones who are catholic I dont get into argument with them. we just agree to differ. catholics have strong views or beliefs on things but so do other people. Having a strong belief in something can be good or it can be problematic, but the important thing to know is Jesus Christ as your Lord and saviour.
 
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When all of you people here admit you hate the Catholic church you're in no frame of mind nor place in God to preach to anyone or disagree with anyone who condemns that.

Who are you to say the people in the church aren't Christian? Your hate can't be for the church because that's a structure, as is the Vatican. What you all are saying you hate, and slapping each other on the back for that hate, approving it, is HATE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE CATHOLIC RELIGION!

God's word calls you all a liar when you then claim to love God!

That too is pathetic!

I will preach the truth to anyone and everyone.. People can decide to accept or reject what i say.. You can declare what i say pathetic.. That's your judgement upon what i have shared.. The LORD shall judge and the truth shall be revealed to all..
Do you? When you preach to someone and what you're saying has no semblance of relationship to what they said, you're not preaching! You're ranting.

That's a new one on my remarks to you. I have to tell my poker buddies that a self titled subhuman disagreed with my telling a ranting self righteous egocentric person they have no right to preach to me.
 

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When all of you people here admit you hate the Catholic church you're in no frame of mind nor place in God to preach to anyone or disagree with anyone who condemns that.
I could wish you were more precise in your terms.

"When all of you people here admit you hate the Catholic church..."

I have neither admitted, nor do I have any reason to admit such a thing. I am a person here on this forum, so your rather broad statement indicts me along with everybody else on this forum. I deserve no such condemnation, nor do many on this forum.
 

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When all of you people here admit you hate the Catholic church you're in no frame of mind nor place in God to preach to anyone or disagree with anyone who condemns that.

Who are you to say the people in the church aren't Christian? Your hate can't be for the church because that's a structure, as is the Vatican. What you all are saying you hate, and slapping each other on the back for that hate, approving it, is HATE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE CATHOLIC RELIGION!

God's word calls you all a liar when you then claim to love God!

That too is pathetic!


Do you? When you preach to someone and what you're saying has no semblance of relationship to what they said, you're not preaching! You're ranting.

That's a new one on my remarks to you. I have to tell my poker buddies that a self titled subhuman disagreed with my telling a ranting self righteous egocentric person they have no right to preach to me.
A catholic is a person who believes in all the teachings of the Roman catholic church without any resistance.. Therefore if the catholic church does not preach the true Gospel way of salvation then the catholic followers Must by definition believe in the false gospel the catholic church teaches.. Thus catholics cannot be Christians....

I make absolutely no apology for taking this stance because it is the truth and those who are caught up in the deception of the roman catholic church need to be informed that they are in a false church and need to get out of the spiritual harlot..

And you Brandnewday need to cease and desist from promoting the roman catholic religion as being Christian.. That is you playing your part in the spreading of deception and death to all those caught up in the lie that is the Roman catholic church..
 
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A catholic is a person who believes in all the teachings of the Roman catholic church without any resistance.. Therefore if the catholic church does not preach the true Gospel way of salvation then the catholic followers Must by definition believe in the false gospel the catholic church teaches.. Thus catholics cannot be Christians....

I make absolutely no apology for taking this stance because it is the truth and those who are caught up in the deception of the roman catholic church need to be informed that they are in a false church and need to get out of the spiritual harlot..

And you Brandnewday need to cease and desist from promoting the roman catholic religion as being Christian.. That is you playing your part in the spreading of deception and death to all those caught up in the lie that is the Roman catholic church..
I look forward to knowing one day you'll tell God why you said all this.
You need to realize you have no authority to tell me to cease anything. You should cease being a proud bigot that besmirches the title of Christian due to your personal ignorance. Your loathing of Catholics stops you from gleaning the education that would change all that.
Catholic is a biblical term. You don't know this. I dare you to cease your hatred of Catholics and your deplorable name calling, which God says tells him that you do not know him when you hate your brother and claim to love God, and search this word out. καθόλου.
 

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I look forward to knowing one day you'll tell God why you said all this.
You need to realize you have no authority to tell me to cease anything. You should cease being a proud bigot that besmirches the title of Christian due to your personal ignorance. Your loathing of Catholics stops you from gleaning the education that would change all that.
Catholic is a biblical term. You don't know this. I dare you to cease your hatred of Catholics and your deplorable name calling, which God says tells him that you do not know him when you hate your brother and claim to love God, and search this word out. καθόλου.
You presume to know the heart's and motives of numerous people that you don't know in the slightest. Believing that you know these things about them, yet they dont know it about themselves.
Then have the gall to get offended for someone telling you to cease spreading a message that is not permitted to be taught on this site.
Then turn around and tell them to cease expressing their view, which is quite similar to the official stance the site takes.
I'm not sure that these things will further your desperate need to have Catholicism accepted on this site or by any reading this thread.
Self righteousness, angry rants and judging people are counterproductive to your intent. Unless your goal here is to cause problems.
 
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You presume to know the heart's and motives of numerous people that you don't know in the slightest.
Hey Subhuman, I'll stop you right there because you don't actually see the irony in those words in this thread, with its title, and all those anti Catholic replies. You know, those who presume to know the heart's and motives of numerous people that you all don't know in the slightest. Except for what makes them worthy of your contempt. They're Catholics.
Guess what? According to the bible you all are Catholics.

And your creed was created in Rome under a Roman emperor's authority.
That would make you all who hold to the Nicene creed, Roman Catholics.

And no, wrong again. My goal isn't to cause problems. Your blind bias fails to recognize that discussion titles like this one and others here, like about women preaching, are designed to cause problems. Don't like people pointing that out, don't cause problems by making discussion topics designed to belittle the people you all want to insult.

And adding this to say, low and behold a new discussion knows what it is talking about as pertains to this and others like I've mentioned already. From that first posting. “Their throat is like an open place of death; with their tongues they have said what is not true: the poison of snakes is under their lips: whose mouth is full of curses and bitter words:” (Romans 3.13,14).
 

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See Bede? See what you caused? You started this thread, and you are the one who started the acrimony in this thread. Now look what happened. People insulting people and using Bible verses (wrenched out of context) to insult people.

If this is really what you wanted, why could you not have kept it in Bible Discussion Forum where people are used to all this bitterness? Why did you have to muddy up Miscellaneous Forum with this junk?
 
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See Bede? See what you caused? You started this thread, and you are the one who started the acrimony in this thread. Now look what happened. People insulting people and using Bible verses (wrenched out of context) to insult people.

If this is really what you wanted, why could you not have kept it in Bible Discussion Forum where people are used to all this bitterness? Why did you have to muddy up Miscellaneous Forum with this junk?
Do you really think acrimony holds to one spot and leaves all others sacrosanct?
 

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It can be contained in one forum. It doesn't HAVE to leak out into others.

But noooo, this time we had to drag it into a nice, peaceful forum. Couldn't keep it in BDF where it belongs. Had to share the bad vibes with everybody else.
 
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It can be contained in one forum. It doesn't HAVE to leak out into others.

But noooo, this time we had to drag it into a nice, peaceful forum. Couldn't keep it in BDF where it belongs. Had to share the bad vibes with everybody else.
In my life I've come to the conclusion there are people that feed off of bad vibes. They love it. And when they can, generate them so as to feast.

On a scale of one to ten since you've been here awhile from what I read under your name, how many here bring good vibes? Compared to those who bring the opposite. Regardless of forum.
 

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In my life I've come to the conclusion there are people that feed off of bad vibes. They love it. And when they can, generate them so as to feast.

On a scale of one to ten since you've been here awhile from what I read under your name, how many here bring good vibes? Compared to those who bring the opposite. Regardless of forum.
Oh but I can't answer that question as stated because I can't answer it "regardless of forum." It depends a lot on the forum. Even here in ChristianChat, different subforums have very different cultures.

I usually stay in Singles and Misc. forums. The atmosphere there is cool, friends chit-chatting mostly.

Every time I poke my nose into Bible Discussion I see a LOT of bad vibes. Everybody there has to prove "I am right and you are wrong" and they sling a lot of insults in the pursuit of this goal. That's why I sedulously avoid that forum these days.

And I got news for you about them bad vibes: Some people don't thrive on them and want to avoid them. Bad vibes cause high blood pressure, loss of sleep and poor digestion. And the people who want to avoid them have mostly collected in Singles and Misc. forums.

So could y'all insulters/debaters please keep those bad vibes in the forums where the people who thrive on them hang out? Y'all been messing up this nice, peaceful, informative, cool forum too long already.
 

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I look forward to knowing one day you'll tell God why you said all this.
You need to realize you have no authority to tell me to cease anything. You should cease being a proud bigot that besmirches the title of Christian due to your personal ignorance. Your loathing of Catholics stops you from gleaning the education that would change all that.
Catholic is a biblical term. You don't know this. I dare you to cease your hatred of Catholics and your deplorable name calling, which God says tells him that you do not know him when you hate your brother and claim to love God, and search this word out. καθόλου.
I believe that this member you responded to was born and raised a Catholic but no longer considers himself one. He's actually quite knowledgeable on aspects of the Catholic Church. He certainly is not a bigot.