Why did God create Humans ?

[Genez]

God has no ego problem. When someone says "God" I assume that they are talking about the Father. The one, supreme God and Father of all.

We could not know the Father without God the Son making the Father knowable to us.
All that we know about the Father comes to us courtesy of the Son, who was also known as the Lord God of Israel.

In other words?

What we find in and through Jesus to us?
He is all the God the Father that we can know!

No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God
and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John 1:18​

That is a good and decent translation.
But it is not quite enough if we are to have better understanding.
For the Greek is even stronger in meaning when translated more carefully.

No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God
and is in closest relationship with the Father, He has declared Him
[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen;
He has interpreted Him, and He has made Him known]. ​

Jesus is our "interpreter" and "translator" of God the Father to us, presenting the Father to us "into our language," so to speak.

How far can you stand back from God in order to see Him?

We can't!


grace and peace ............

 

[MrE]

We could not know the Father without God the Son making the Father knowable to us.
All that we know about the Father comes to us courtesy of the Son, who was also known as the Lord God of Israel.

In other words?

What we find in and through Jesus to us?
He is all the God the Father that we can know!

No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God
and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John 1:18​

That is a good and decent translation.
But it is not quite enough if we are to have better understanding.
For the Greek is even stronger in meaning when translated more carefully.

No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God
and is in closest relationship with the Father, He has declared Him
[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen;
He has interpreted Him, and He has made Him known]. ​

Jesus is our "interpreter" and "translator" of God the Father to us, presenting the Father to us "into our language," so to speak.

How far can you stand back from God in order to see Him?

We can't!


grace and peace ............

That's a terrible translation and not what the text says at all.

You will not find anywhere in scripture the phrase-- the son, who is himself God.

Be honest in the treatment of scripture.

 

[Mem]

God was not and is not lacking. Not for anything.

Let me frame it like this… if you looked into a still pool of water and saw your reflection, perhaps you’d be pleased with it. Perhaps it would give you some pleasure to see an image of yourself. Particularly if it was for the first time….

But let’s take it a step farther. You become enamored with your reflection and you begin to obsess over your appearance. Your visits to the pond to admire yourself become an addiction. Worse, you make and mold an image of yourself— a little replica that’s a representation of you — and the obsession grows.

What began as a mere (mirror) opportunity for self examination and reflection has become ego and I-doll-atry.

This is the story of the elohim, who created man.

This is the story of Narcissus, the Greek Hunter who had love only for himself. Reading the OP, a concept of vulnerability came to mind as having something to do with the answer. What? God vulnerable? As if, right? But then I think of the commandment to greet one another with a holy kiss and this generated the consideration of all the possibilities that might be involved in that seemingly straight forward gesture. How would it be received? Would it be reciprocated? How do you, just, approach a person to even try to initiate a kiss? Do you just land one on them or do you close your eyes, pucker up, go in half-way, and wait for them come in the rest of the way to meet your lips?

 

[Sipsey]

This is the story of Narcissus, the Greek Hunter who had love only for himself. Reading the OP, a concept of vulnerability came to mind as having something to do with the answer. What? God vulnerable? As if, right? But then I think of the commandment to greet one another with a holy kiss and this generated the consideration of all the possibilities that might be involved in that seemingly straight forward gesture. How would it be received? Would it be reciprocated? How do you, just, approach a person to even try to initiate a kiss? Do you just land one on them or do you close your eyes, pucker up, go in half-way, and wait for them come in the rest of the way to meet your lips?

The phrase “greet one another with a holy kiss” appears multiple times in the New Testament (e.g., Romans 16:16, 1 Corinthians 16:20, 2 Corinthians 13:12, 1 Thessalonians 5:26), and once in a similar form in 1 Peter 5:14 as “greet one another with a kiss of love.”

What it Means:

1. A cultural greeting of affection and unity:

In the ancient Greco-Roman and Near Eastern world, it was common to greet friends and family with a kiss—usually on the cheek or forehead. Among Christians, this gesture was adopted as a sign of spiritual kinship, peace, and shared holiness.


2. “Holy” emphasizes its sacred intent:

The word holy (Greek: ἅγιος, hagios) means set apart for God. So this kiss was not romantic or casual but was set apart from worldly or sensual behavior, expressing brotherly love, forgiveness, and unity in Christ.


3. A sign of fellowship and reconciliation:

It was especially meaningful before taking Communion or after times of confession, as a way of affirming mutual forgiveness and love within the church body.

 

[Mem]

The phrase “greet one another with a holy kiss” appears multiple times in the New Testament (e.g., Romans 16:16, 1 Corinthians 16:20, 2 Corinthians 13:12, 1 Thessalonians 5:26), and once in a similar form in 1 Peter 5:14 as “greet one another with a kiss of love.”

What it Means:

1. A cultural greeting of affection and unity:

In the ancient Greco-Roman and Near Eastern world, it was common to greet friends and family with a kiss—usually on the cheek or forehead. Among Christians, this gesture was adopted as a sign of spiritual kinship, peace, and shared holiness.


2. “Holy” emphasizes its sacred intent:

The word holy (Greek: ἅγιος, hagios) means set apart for God. So this kiss was not romantic or casual but was set apart from worldly or sensual behavior, expressing brotherly love, forgiveness, and unity in Christ.


3. A sign of fellowship and reconciliation:

It was especially meaningful before taking Communion or after times of confession, as a way of affirming mutual forgiveness and love within the church body.

methinks this best illustrates God's intention in creating man in His image. Though others might argue, Jesus was made most vulnerable and was made most venerable among all of His creation.

I mean, Jesus defeated death by making Himself vulnerable to it and then He veritably stomped on it.

 

[Genez]

That's a terrible translation and not what the text says at all.

You will not find anywhere in scripture the phrase-- the son, who is himself God.

Be honest in the treatment of scripture.

The very thing I was not concerned with, you jump on...

[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen;
He has interpreted Him, and He has made Him known].



Now that is what I wanted to make known!


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[MrE]

The very thing I was not concerned with, you jump on...

[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen;
He has interpreted Him, and He has made Him known].



Now that is what I wanted to make known!


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Call me a stute.

 

[Genez]

Call me a stute.

"Stute" is a German word meaning mare, specifically an adult female horse.

And?
You want to be called Mr?

Speaking of terrible translations.
That Is one!

"IT'S THE AMAZING WOKE, TRANNY, MISTER ED!"

 

[MrE]

"Stute" is a German word meaning mare, specifically an adult female horse.

And?
You want to be called Mr?

Speaking of terrible translations.
That Is one!

"IT'S THE AMAZING WOKE, TRANNY, MISTER ED!"

A horse is a horse.

Of course.

Yet, I’m sure you think you are clever and funny.

Of course.


There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Here's a thought......... try addressing the point, and not the person.

Your interp of John 1:18 is abhorrent.

 

[Genez]

A horse is a horse.

Of course.

Yet, I’m sure you think you are clever and funny.

Of course.


There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Here's a thought......... try addressing the point, and not the person.

Your interp of John 1:18 is abhorrent.

I can live with your opinion, which I know is wrong.
So be it....

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..................I don't think I am funny, of course.​

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Unless you are an uptight, transgender, horse!​

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...................Demanding.... ​

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.....To be called.. Mr. Ed!​

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[Genez]

Your interp of John 1:18 is abhorrent.

Well? What does 1:18 mean to you?

This is what the link to John 1:18 in your post says....

"No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known" ​

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Are you saying that is abhorrent also?

You do not believe in the Deity of Christ?

.

 

[TomCullen]

For the sake of His own Glory.
And for the Glory of His Son.
And for all of those who are in the Son.
All the Father has given Him

The same Holy Spirit that moved above the waters at creation, now lives and moves within us, to glorify the Son.

"But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou? But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart. Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."

 

[MrE]

Well? What does 1:18 mean to you?

This is what the link to John 1:18 in your post says....

"No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known" ​

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Are you saying that is abhorrent also?

You do not believe in the Deity of Christ?

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It's what it doesn't say, that matters. It doesn't say that Jesus is himself, God. That was quite dishonestly added to your texts. It doesn't appear anywhere in the original Greek, and it's not anything that Jesus himself, claimed.

God is spirit. His son is spirit. Spirit gives birth to spirit, flesh gives birth to flesh.

 

[HeIsHere]

I can live with your opinion, which I know is wrong.
So be it....

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..................I don't think I am funny, of course.​

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Unless you are an uptight, transgender, horse!​

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...................Demanding.... ​

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.....To be called.. Mr. Ed!​

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It doesn't say that Jesus is himself, God.

@Genez I would say this statement is concerning.

 

[HeIsHere]

It's what it doesn't say, that matters. It doesn't say that Jesus is himself, God. That was quite dishonestly added to your texts. It doesn't appear anywhere in the original Greek, and it's not anything that Jesus himself, claimed.

God is spirit. His son is spirit. Spirit gives birth to spirit, flesh gives birth to flesh.

Do you believe Jesus is God incarnate, be honest Mr. Ed?

 

[MrE]

@Genez I would say this statement is concerning.

Go ahead and post where scripture states otherwise.... directly. Word for word and not something assumed, implied or derived.

 

[MrE]

Do you believe Jesus is God incarnate, be honest Mr. Ed?

Now your Spanish? I thought you were Canadian?

 

[HeIsHere]

Go ahead and post where scripture states otherwise.... directly. Word for word and not something assumed, implied or derived.

So you really should not be on this forum with Christians who do believe that Christ Jesus is fully God and fully man.
Are you a JW?

 

[PennEd]

It's what it doesn't say, that matters. It doesn't say that Jesus is himself, God. That was quite dishonestly added to your texts. It doesn't appear anywhere in the original Greek, and it's not anything that Jesus himself, claimed.

Jesus IS God. Confessing and believing He is God, is an essential element of The Gospel unto Salvation.

 

[MrE]

So you really should not be on this forum with Christians who do believe that Christ Jesus is fully God and fully man.
Are you a JW?

To be fully man--- is to not be God. The lie that says otherwise comes straight from Satan himself.

To be fully God--- is to not be man. God is spirit and not a man.

You know, folks can look at this in different ways without having to have their intestines pulled for doing so.