Who is Jesus Christ in this verse and why they call him The Everlasting Father?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Oct 31, 2024
220
40
28
#1
ISAIAH 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
 

Mem

Senior Member
Sep 23, 2014
7,935
2,447
113
#2
ISAIAH 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
I believe the correlation is here:

1 Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam a life-giving spirit.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!

and also here:
1 John 5:1
Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father also loves those born of Him.

How is it determined, definitively, exactly Who the phrase "born of Him" is referring to?
 

TabinRivCA

Well-known member
Oct 23, 2018
13,751
11,219
113
#4
ISAIAH 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
In the OT the coming Jesus is referred to as 'Immanuel' meaning 'God is with us' Isa 7:14 and Isa 8:8. In the NT Jesus says 'I and the Father are One' Jn 10:30. Great question btw!
 

Pilgrimshope

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2020
15,978
6,418
113
#5
ISAIAH 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
“a child is born, unto us a son is given:”

his name shall be called”

Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace”

“As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. ( father son and Holy Ghost ) And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:6, 9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

thats written of the son who was born and given unto us.

“Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I and my Father are one.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:5‬ ‭

“I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, And the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Serve the LORD with fear, And rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, When his wrath is kindled but a little.

Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭2:7-8, 11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Finally

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:20-21‬ ‭

The son is the central figure of scripture because he is the fullness of God manifest in the flesh father son and Holy Ghost in one man bodily.
 

Pilgrimshope

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2020
15,978
6,418
113
#7
There is no one else

Father and I are one. John 10:30
“For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭43:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭43:10-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭2:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭4:10‬ ‭

“And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:14‬ ‭
 
Oct 19, 2024
5,660
1,147
113
USA-TX
#8
ISAIAH 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Obviously the message got garbled since we know he should have said the everlasting Son.
 
Sep 4, 2013
30,900
6,990
113
#9
ISAIAH 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Because Jesus IS God. God the Son. Read the 1st Chapter of the Gospel of John to learn more.