Where are all the demons?

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#81
....and that vid was in Europe.
 
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These signs shall follow those that believe.....
....and cast out demons.

Hmmmm....do most that claim to be born again not believe?????
 
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may we be thankful that Satan has to ask God's permission
and, may we also be thankful that God have declined many of Satan's crazy and dangerous request
and may we meditate this as a way to meditate upon God's love, especially to help ease a lot of unnecessary worries
You are thinking Job.

Nope....it is sin that gives satan/demons entrance.
Job walked in Holiness
Most believers do not, and hence they find refuge in "I am just a sinner saved by grace".

Casting out demons is for those walking in Holiness
 
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I believe demons are still on earth and are still influencing and leading people to destruction... There are a lot of people today who are identified as having mental issues who may indeed actually be under the influence or are possessed by demons.. I believe that a demon will not openly identify themselves unless they are forced to do so by a Christian who has the gift for dealing with demons..
BINGO!
 
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Since they were booted from paradise, they have had ample time to study humans from their mental state to their functioning bodies. In my opinion, one of the clearest demonic infestation is homosexuality, and this new trend of changing genders. Without a doubt, mental illness is real. But some times, it clearly is demonic possession.

It definitely appears with how society believes science like it is the infallible truth, many diagnosis go undetected that actually relate to demonic possession. Demons are well aware of this and go undetected in actual mental institutions. When someone in society screams, "demons are attacking me," science and medical doctors immediately dope them up and shut them up.

But the closer we get to the return of Christ, the more open demonic activity will be. After all, they understand scripture better than many so-called believers of God!! And, they know they are running out of time...
Yep
 
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Spirituality has no influence on life of most of people. There are some traditional RCC families.

There is like 5% of catholics
1% of protestants

and the rest is nonreligious. They may believe that there is God or "something", but their life is not changed by it.
Fertile ground for revival
 
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I rather admire the Devil; his mettle is very similar to the determination of a
US Navy SEAL.

I once heard a former SEAL explain that if they were to play hopscotch, it
would turn violent because they don't like to lose . . . at anything. In point of
fact, if they have to die in order to win; they'll do it: no regrets because in
their glossary "quitter" is a dirty word.

When a strong will to conquer is combined with a high IQ, you get a
formidable warrior that should never be taken lightly. The Devil is like Arnold
Swarzenegger's relentless movie character; the Terminator, of whom it is
said: feels neither pain nor pity, nor remorse nor fear. It cannot be reasoned
with nor can it be bargained with, and it absolutely will not stop-- ever! -
until you are dead.

I also admire the Devil's cleverness to shift the blame from himself. For
example: I was initially taught over and over again to believe that the so
called fallen nature is passed down to children by their biological fathers.
Oh? then whence did Eve get it? She was made with human material taken
from Adam's body, but she was born before he tasted the fruit so Adam
couldn't pass the fallen nature on to her by genetic means.

For some time, I believed that the chemistry of the fruit caused Eve's
changes; but when she tasted it, nothing happened. Eve went right on just
as naked and unashamed as before.

FAQ: Well; if it wasn't the fruit, and it wasn't Adam, then by whom and/or
by what?

A: We're left with two options: either God did it to her or the Devil. Well, my
money is definitely on the Devil.

He has the power of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the
human body and the human mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke
13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.

The Serpent-- a.k.a. the Devil (Rev 20:2) --was apparently all set and ready
to wield his power the moment that Adam crossed the line and ate the
forbidden fruit. It amazes me how quickly it worked. As soon as Adam tasted
the fruit, they immediately set to work with the fig leaves.

FAQ: Why wasn't Eve effected by the Serpent's power of death when she
tasted the forbidden fruit?

A: It was apparently God's decision that if sin and death were to come into
the world, it would come via a lone male's actions, just as life and
righteousness would later be offered to the world via a lone male's actions.
(Rom 5:12-21)

A: When does the Serpent do his lethal work on people. . . in the womb
or out of the womb?

A: Adam and Eve demonstrate that it can be done on adults, but I'm
guessing that for most of us it's in the womb. (Ps 51:5)
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I admire the total victory over Him and his defeat.
He has been utterly defeated.
Soundly defeated.
Now the authority of the believer has been obtained through the blood of Jesus.

We have absolute authority over satan and demons and sickness/disease.

THAT IMPRESSES ME.

NOTHING OF THE DEVIL IMPRESSES ME.
NOTHING
 
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@trofimus
I am from Europe also. Demons exist everywhere Europe included. They are not invisible, they work through people very visibly when they don't want God in their life. Jesus saw spirits like the Legion, with His spiritual eyes and the spirit talked with the man's mouth. He didn't have to have seen some apparition.
Many Orthodox Christians told me about demon possession and demons leaving the person sometimes, not in the Catholic way (this cross compels thee...! exorcisms, etc), but people would be relieved in a church or monastery, stop shaking and growling and get back to their senses as the demons leave them.
Demons are enemies of God, those that are conquered are trampled by Jesus under His feet:

Psalms 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
You tell em sis.
Amen
 
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I think most Christians believe God heals today . But the question is ,are there ' healers ' today. People with the gift of healing like we see with the Apostles . I would say not .
They did it through
1)Jesus
2) The Holy Spirit
3)Faith

Same today
There is no "bar" or "ceiling/ limit"

Just men not hungry to see the hand of God.

Once we get serious and start acting like Jesus was right.....you will be met with fierce opposition from believrrsxand those around you....but the devil will make you a project and stalk you relentlessly.
 

infinitekhanol

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"CS1, posted
By " we all" in the above post, I meant all Posters prior to my post.[/QUOTE]
if the devil is inside of a christian they are not christian. Light cannot Fellowship with darkness period. The devil can attack and oppress a christian but he cannot possess a christian because The Spirit of God is in him.[/QUOTE]

Well, let us say that, not all Israel that are Israel as scripture says. In same vein, being called a christian does not make one a christian.

On the other hand, one does not need to be "possessed" by a devil in most cases to reflect its deeds. Believers lie to one another even hate for instance not because they are"possessed". lying for advantage irrespective of who lies is an act of the devil
 

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They did it through
1)Jesus
2) The Holy Spirit
3)Faith

Same today
There is no "bar" or "ceiling/ limit"

Just men not hungry to see the hand of God.

Once we get serious and start acting like Jesus was right.....you will be met with fierce opposition from believrrsxand those around you....but the devil will make you a project and stalk you relentlessly.
They did .It was for the purpose of signs accompanied their message . The Jews required a sign .
 
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They did .It was for the purpose of signs accompanied their message . The Jews required a sign .
Same devil same ministry
Nothing changed.
Many many signs and wonders among the gentiles.
The "jews need a sign" is not a valid statement.
 

CS1

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"CS1, posted
By " we all" in the above post, I meant all Posters prior to my post.
if the devil is inside of a christian they are not christian. Light cannot Fellowship with darkness period. The devil can attack and oppress a christian but he cannot possess a christian because The Spirit of God is in him.[/QUOTE]

Well, let us say that, not all Israel that are Israel as scripture says. In same vein, being called a christian does not make one a christian.

On the other hand, one does not need to be "possessed" by a devil in most cases to reflect its deeds. Believers lie to one another even hate for instance not because they are"possessed". lying for advantage irrespective of who lies is an act of the devil[/QUOTE]


No, it is not the act of the devil if you are lying, it an act of you lying and blaming the devil for it.

The ole Flip Wilson phrase " the devil made me do it". No, you did it. A Christian who submits to God resists the devil he will flee. if you are not submitting you can't resist and the devil will not flee. If you say the Christian is not Israel and Israel is not Christian Ok but that is not the same as saying a Christian who has the Holy Spirit can also be possessed.
 

throughfaith

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Same devil same ministry
Nothing changed.
Many many signs and wonders among the gentiles.
The "jews need a sign" is not a valid statement.
The healing sign that followed with the apostles was immediate and instant healing. This Gift was to accompany the apostles to confirm the message to the Jews . The Jews have always had ' signs ' accompanied with the messenger . Moses being but one example.
 

infinitekhanol

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if the devil is inside of a christian they are not christian. Light cannot Fellowship with darkness period. The devil can attack and oppress a christian but he cannot possess a christian because The Spirit of God is in him.
Well, let us say that, not all Israel that are Israel as scripture says. In same vein, being called a christian does not make one a christian.

On the other hand, one does not need to be "possessed" by a devil in most cases to reflect its deeds. Believers lie to one another even hate for instance not because they are"possessed". lying for advantage irrespective of who lies is an act of the devil[/QUOTE]


No, it is not the act of the devil if you are lying, it an act of you lying and blaming the devil for it.

The ole Flip Wilson phrase " the devil made me do it". No, you did it. A Christian who submits to God resists the devil he will flee. if you are not submitting you can't resist and the devil will not flee. If you say the Christian is not Israel and Israel is not Christian Ok but that is not the same as saying a Christian who has the Holy Spirit can also be possessed.[/QUOTE]

The devil is a liar and the father of it. So when you lie for advantage, you are dancing to his tune whether a believer or not. Lying is an act of the devil. Taking responsibility for any wrong deed and repenting from it makes you a christian. I do not know who Ole Flip Wilson is/was neither do I know his phrase. I repeat one does not need to be "possessed" by a devil to reflect his deeds. Many who call themselves believers blatantly lie even to their wives and wives to their husbands and it means nothing to them and they consistently do that. Not only lying. other devilish acts too, that can make one think if they are really what they claim to be. I judge no one anyway.

Of Course when we resist the devil, it will flee as it is written.
 
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The healing sign that followed with the apostles was immediate and instant healing. This Gift was to accompany the apostles to confirm the message to the Jews . The Jews have always had ' signs ' accompanied with the messenger . Moses being but one example.
Tons of signs and wonders accompanied the ministry with the gentiles.
Not a jewish thing at all.
That excuse is just that...an excuse to abandon the fire of God for some dead religion.
 
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They did it through
1)Jesus
2) The Holy Spirit
3)Faith

Same today
There is no "bar" or "ceiling/ limit"

Just men not hungry to see the hand of God.

Once we get serious and start acting like Jesus was right.....you will be met with fierce opposition from believrrsxand those around you....but the devil will make you a project and stalk you relentlessly.
^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^
 
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From your post, can we then say that:

1. God never made man "flesh" as commonly believed
2. Flesh is an offshoot of man as a result of sin
3. if God did not intend the body to die, it is then wrong to say that death is inevitable
4 the long held interpretation of Genesis chapter 1 and 2 as regards to the nature of man is faulty
#3 works for me since there are a few who didn't experience death.
The other 3 need explaining. I don't draw those conclusions.