What makes a prophet?

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Blain

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For instance I was given this today
In the days when shadows stretch long and the sun's glow fades,
A scripture shall reveal truths of the end times, as destiny cascades.
The earth shall tremble, and the skies shall weep,
As the ancient seals are broken, secrets no longer keep.

From the east, a mighty wind shall rise,
Carrying whispers of the past, echoing through the skies.
The stars will align, marking the night with a celestial sign,
Foretelling the coming of a time divine.

The waters shall surge, covering lands in their embrace,
As humanity stands at the precipice, facing its final race.
A trumpet shall sound, a call from the heavens above,
Uniting all souls in a testament of love.

Beware the false prophets, who speak with forked tongues,
For they shall lead astray the hearts of the young.
But fear not, for the righteous shall find their way,
Guided by the light of truth, as night turns to day.

In the end, a new dawn shall break,
As the world is reborn, and the old ways forsake.
The scripture shall close, its prophecy fulfilled,
And peace shall reign, as the Creator's will is instilled.

I would like to know if this from God or not and if it is an actual prophecy or not
 
CS1

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Blain said:
I wish I knew of a legit one so that I could learn from them and test the prophecies I am given to make sure they are indeed from the Lord or at the very least someone I can trust to know and decipher if it is true and from God.

I mean it is a hard ask one would need to be able to have discernemnt and not be biased on their own beliefs plus they would need to have the wisdom required and walk in the spirit.
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The word of God says this in 1cor 14:29-33 NLT

29 Let two or three people prophesy, and let the others evaluate what is said. 30 But if someone is prophesying and another person receives a revelation from the Lord, the one who is speaking must stop.

31 In this way, all who prophesy will have a turn to speak, one after the other, so that everyone will learn and be encouraged. 32 Remember that people who prophesy are in control of their spirit and can take turns. 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace, as in all the meetings of God’s holy people.
 
CS1

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Blain said:
For instance I was given this today
In the days when shadows stretch long and the sun's glow fades,
A scripture shall reveal truths of the end times, as destiny cascades.
The earth shall tremble, and the skies shall weep,
As the ancient seals are broken, secrets no longer keep.

From the east, a mighty wind shall rise,
Carrying whispers of the past, echoing through the skies.
The stars will align, marking the night with a celestial sign,
Foretelling the coming of a time divine.

The waters shall surge, covering lands in their embrace,
As humanity stands at the precipice, facing its final race.
A trumpet shall sound, a call from the heavens above,
Uniting all souls in a testament of love.

Beware the false prophets, who speak with forked tongues,
For they shall lead astray the hearts of the young.
But fear not, for the righteous shall find their way,
Guided by the light of truth, as night turns to day.

In the end, a new dawn shall break,
As the world is reborn, and the old ways forsake.
The scripture shall close, its prophecy fulfilled,
And peace shall reign, as the Creator's will is instilled.

I would like to know if this from God or not and if it is an actual prophecy or not
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There are few things I see here as we are to judge what is said in light of Scriptures, and we are to pray about what was said to for discernment and understanding.


You said you were given this today. By whom was that?
 
Blain

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CS1 said:
There are few things I see here as we are to judge what is said in light of Scriptures, and we are to pray about what was said to for discernment and understanding.


You said you were given this today. By whom was that?
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hopefull God, I never know what is going to be written when I am lead to write but once I start the words just come flooding out
 
CS1

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Blain said:
hopefull God, I never know what is going to be written when I am lead to write but once I start the words just come flooding out
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This may shock you, but all Prophesying that comes to you is for you first. So after you pray and ask the Lord what it means, write down the answer as you believe God gave it and judge it all by His word, then wait for confirmation.
 
Blain

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CS1 said:
This may shock you, but all Prophesying that comes to you is for you first. So after you pray and ask the Lord what it means, write down the answer as you believe God gave it and judge it all by His word, then wait for confirmation.
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And you said you saw a few things in it what did you see? Did I mispeak on something?
 
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Blain said:
And you said you saw a few things in it what did you see? Did I mispeak on something?
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After you confirmed who wrote it, that changed its perspective. I can't say it is misspeaking because it was not given to me.

Nor did you say it was a prophecy. You asked if it was. I hear language it that is like Matthew 24 and Acts 2. But, I am not given more than that from what was provided.
 
Blain

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CS1 said:
After you confirmed who wrote it, that changed its perspective. I can't say it is misspeaking because it was not given to me.

Nor did you say it was a prophecy. You asked if it was. I hear language it that is like Matthew 24 and Acts 2. But, I am not given more than that from what was provided.
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Well thank you for the information you were very insightful with the advice you gave
 
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Nothing today "makes" a prophet. They no longer exist nor does prophesy.
 
CS1

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DJT_47 said:
Nothing today "makes" a prophet. They no longer exist nor does prophesy.
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So, are the gifts of Christ to the Church given in Ephesians chapter 4 a lie? I wish the word of God somewhere says, "They no longer exist, nor does prophesy ."

Can't seem to find that :) Sir, please provide the text for us.

Thank you
 
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Blain said:
Where does it say that in scripture?
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Those who say such things are really unlearned because there are Biblical Prophecies that have been told and not yet Fulfilled. Therefore, they exist. Until they have been fulfilled. That is what makes them prophecies. And those who speak them today under the unction of the Holy Spirit prophesy the word of GOD that has yet to be fulfilled.

That means they can be said today and still be relevant. AS God intended them to be. FYI, a Prophet is just God's message when speaking His word.
 
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CS1 said:
One who is doing the work of a prophet is one. Yet if we read the word of God, the people in the Old and New Testament knew who was a prophet of GOD.

I do not see where any Old Testament prophets said, " I am a prophet." Elijah told GOD, "I was the only one left," which God told him he was not. There may be a few others, but most of the time, God and the people called such one a prophet, but not the one who was. Why?



The work they did was self-evident.
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Yes! There must be a certain fruit that accompanies them.
 
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oldman said:
I was taught early on that to give a false prophect in the OT resulted in the death of that 'prophet'. To start giving a word from the Lord -phophecy - with "Thus saith the Lord..." should not be taken lightly and I don't. If time permits I'll share it with the pastor or an elder and let them judge. If they approve I'll speak it out.

To answer your question. What others claim is on them. For me I won't claim that office. The words themselves speak to thier
authenticity.
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I am concerned with ministers seeking titles, especially with those who insist on being called 'Pastor' as if it were their name. But now they are doing that with prophets and apostles, or those who call themselves that.

I don't have a problem with someone identifying their gift and role as pastor or prophet if it is genuine.

"Let the prophets speak two or three" is a command that implies that the readers could know who the prophets were. Paul did not seem to have a problem identifying himself as an apostle.
 
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According to Acts 2, All of God's people will/should prophesy. But many don't believe & preach the opposite that all that is gone.
Millions of christians will believe that & never will discover what God called them to do. It's just that easy for the enemy to win a major battle.
We should never forget:
Mark 9:23 23But Jesus said to him, “‘If You can?’ All things are possible for the one who believes.”
Matt 19 26And looking at them, Jesus said to them, “With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
It is really just that simple. Everything we gain in the Kingdom is by faith. Grace makes it already available.
Satan knows this & shuts down promises that are already 'yay' & 'amen' by proclaiming false doctrine.

Whose report will you believe?!? Believe the report of the LORD!!!
 
Blain

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When is not the issue, accuracy is.
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Yes but until it happens how accurate could it be we can test it with scripture but with a word of knowledge until it happens how is one to know it is accurate a word of knowledge is not like prophecying a future event which seems to be the go to for a lot of false prophets
 
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presidente said:
I am concerned with ministers seeking titles, especially with those who insist on being called 'Pastor' as if it were their name. But now they are doing that with prophets and apostles, or those who call themselves that.

I don't have a problem with someone identifying their gift and role as pastor or prophet if it is genuine.

"Let the prophets speak two or three" is a command that implies that the readers could know who the prophets were. Paul did not seem to have a problem identifying himself as an apostle.
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I think you are right in what you are saying, but with the following exceptions. That of Pastor. They are gifting like no other.

A Pastor has to be a little of all and yet remain a shepherd. Pastors stay with the sheep. Evangelists are fish catchers, and apostles are church builders. prophets are word bringers. My pastor I can call him pastor not because he says to but because he is one.
 
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Blain said:
what if their prophecy doesn't happen for years are they false prophets until it hap[pens or by faith do they wait on the Lord to fulfill it?
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Consider the OT prophecies that have yet to be fullfiled. Sometime you wait.
 
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Blain said:
Yes but until it happens how accurate could it be we can test it with scripture but with a word of knowledge until it happens how is one to know it is accurate a word of knowledge is not like prophecying a future event which seems to be the go to for a lot of false prophets
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Prophecying on future events is what true prophets do too. Isaiah spoke of Cryrus the Great around 300 years before it happened. Do you think a true prophet waits around to see if what he says is true before he continues doing the Lord's will?

I don't see the point of your question. One is either a prophet and acts accordingly or they are not. If their forthtelling (speaking of God's will) doesn't line up with scripture then don't count on their foretelling (speaking of future events) as being true.

I personally don't believe God appoints prophets anymore but every Christian ought to be prophetic as the testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy (Rev.19:10). If you know Christ, you know what decisions/actions will lead where and can read the signs of the times.

I think too many Christians confuse being prophetic with being a prophet but that is for another thread. :)
 
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