What makes a prophet?

[Edify]

I just went out to have a smoke and asked God what does actually make a prophet and the word clarvoince came to mind. I didn't know what that word meant so I looked it up and says

1. the supposed faculty of perceiving things or events in the future or beyond normal sensory contact.

Clairvoyance is attributed to witches & psychics. It should NEVER be used of the supernatural abilities God gives us.

 

[Edify]

It is so sad that Paul gave instructions to the church of proper use of the gifts of the Spirit, Luke wrote in Acts that ALL of God's people will prophesy, and yet the church walks in unbelief.
Is it no wonder we are in the last hours of the church age?

 

[Edify]

Since the OT is declared as an example to learn by we should look at what the OT prophets did.
They taught, preached, warned the people of coming judgment, declared the sins of the nations, is a watchman over the people, performed miracles, healings, etc, etc.
The OT prophet has exercised EVERY gift of the Spirit in the OT. Yet Acts 2 says all of God's elect will prophesy. This is why Paul declares the gift of prophecy as the best gift.
Yet most believer's that don't believe teach against it & even those that DO believe in the Baptism in/of the Holy Spirit don't practice what they preach.
Just because the people walk in disobedience doesn't mean the gifts have ceased. God's spiritual empowerment is still available to all who believe & ask/seek for it.

 

[homwardbound]

I just went out to have a smoke and asked God what does actually make a prophet and the word clarvoince came to mind. I didn't know what that word meant so I looked it up and says

1. the supposed faculty of perceiving things or events in the future or beyond normal sensory contact.

Blain if God does not give it to whoever God chooses, then I tis not of God, and if a person prophecies and at least one prophecy does not come true, then it not be fo God


Authorized (King James) Version

Deuteronomy 18:!5-22

15 The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; 16 according to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. 17 And the Lord said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. 18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? 22 when a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

God Father is perfect Love and this perfect love casts out fear
When fear is cast out, so is worry done for us by God for us, not of any works of self ever again.
Thanks as we grow new in love to all as God called and revealed to me at least with Son going the that cross willingly for us to get given new life in his risen life once anyone chooses to believe God in the love and mercy for them too
Worry, anxiety, fear gone

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
Revelation 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

 

[homwardbound]

Since the OT is declared as an example to learn by we should look at what the OT prophets did.
They taught, preached, warned the people of coming judgment, declared the sins of the nations, is a watchman over the people, performed miracles, healings, etc, etc.
The OT prophet has exercised EVERY gift of the Spirit in the OT. Yet Acts 2 says all of God's elect will prophesy. This is why Paul declares the gift of prophecy as the best gift.
Yet most believer's that don't believe teach against it & even those that DO believe in the Baptism in/of the Holy Spirit don't practice what they preach.
Just because the people walk in disobedience doesn't mean the gifts have ceased. God's spiritual empowerment is still available to all who believe & ask/seek for it.

God Father has placed Son above even all the Angels. therefore there are no more Angles to subvert the truth that God has given us by Son to us at least me. God having no respect of persons, that I see we are all equals from Daddy's view, thanks to Son who leveled the playing field, through his willing death, reconciled everyone first, then risen where new life is given from Father only or not yet.
Ask Father for us all to get the done work of Son alone, and then the old I of flesh nature, will have less chance to get in the way, you think? I see it and am learning to reckon me dead to flesh nature daily and remember that all day lovng in thanksgiving and praise to Father and Son alone for me anyways
Romans 6:1-11

 

[homwardbound]

Since the OT is declared as an example to learn by we should look at what the OT prophets did.
They taught, preached, warned the people of coming judgment, declared the sins of the nations, is a watchman over the people, performed miracles, healings, etc, etc.
The OT prophet has exercised EVERY gift of the Spirit in the OT. Yet Acts 2 says all of God's elect will prophesy. This is why Paul declares the gift of prophecy as the best gift.
Yet most believer's that don't believe teach against it & even those that DO believe in the Baptism in/of the Holy Spirit don't practice what they preach.
Just because the people walk in disobedience doesn't mean the gifts have ceased. God's spiritual empowerment is still available to all who believe & ask/seek for it.

Please, see and remember there were false prophets and are false prophets today still
As Daddy says to me at least be aware of the leaven of the pharisees. We, have modern day pharisees, that are not fair you see
I stand in trust to God alone, do not need anyone else to teach me anything, nor do you or anyone else else in belief.
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

All in belief to God are prophets of God to tell all of Son's done work for them also
Romans 3:25
whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
1 John 4:10
Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

It is done for us by Son to us to be new in love and mercy to all as is done by Son, going to that cross and die for us that reconciled us all (2 Cor 5:17-20) then risen for new life to be given us from Father as Daddy decides who gets and who do not get it yet. The best I can say to anyone is: Don't give up, even if you are not getting what you are after, not seeing it yet as given to you by God for you, which all seek to not die, yet need to accept all flesh dies to be alive willingly to God for me anyways. It is given from God to you once anyone chooses to believe God, then God begins the new life in each person Eph 1:13, Phil 1:6
Many do not see it instantly, not sure if anyone does see it instantly or even after a year or more. It has taken years for me to see what God saw, that I will abide and do so willingly, I assuredly did not see that ever happening, being homeless, a drunk and womanizer then.
I say that, because of what I have gone through, and would not quit belief to God the same as we can read in the book of Job, who did not deny God, kept belief no matter what. Yes got tripped up along the way oh yes, so have you and I too.
yet never denied God your turn thank you Berry much. see the fruit in spite of?

God loves you and all others too proven in 1 John 2:1-2

 

[Blain]

Clairvoyance is attributed to witches & psychics. It should NEVER be used of the supernatural abilities God gives us.

Well I know they claim clarvoice but to be able to see into the spirit is technically what that word describes not using your normal senses.when I am given a prophecy as I write it down I am not in my usual state of mind and I hear him much more clearly my sight that I see what I am writing down is not my usual sight so in a way that is what I am doing.

 

[Aaron56]

So I know some believe that prophets are not for today but this question is based on a what if scenario. I ask because there are so many so called prophets out there and most people have grown to the point that if any prophecy is given they automically disregard it and with all these false prophets today you cannot really blame them. I mean I went on tiktok today and just out of curiosity searched prophetic word and one lady literally made a prophecy because she woke up tasting cookie dough in her mouth.

This made me think, if a genuine prophet is out there what makes them different from the rest? what gifts coincide with a prophet? and how would one know if they have that calling? most think of prophets as fortune tellers but that is not what the role of a prophet is they are not fortune tellers they serve a purpose in the body.

Genuine prophets won't have a "prophetic ministry" or anything like that. They will be focused on building up the Body of Christ. They will do this by teaching believers how to hear God in their own spirits.

They will also work closely with apostles, knowing that foundational issues of the church require their attention. These issues may be the direction a church must go or understanding the season the church is in.

There is much more I could say about this but this is a good start. These two points alone disqualify a number of so-called prophets. One issue may be finding someone who is a prophet. Genuine ones typically won't promote themselves. They know they are called to equip the local church and to believers to whom they are called. For them there is little time to do anything else.

 

[Blain]

Genuine prophets won't have a "prophetic ministry" or anything like that. They will be focused on building up the Body of Christ. They will do this by teaching believers how to hear God in their own spirits.

They will also work closely with apostles, knowing that foundational issues of the church require their attention. These issues may be the direction a church must go or understanding the season the church is in.

There is much more I could say about this but this is a good start. These two points alone disqualify a number of so-called prophets. One issue may be finding someone who is a prophet. Genuine ones typically won't promote themselves. They know they are called to equip the local church and to believers to whom they are called. For them there is little time to do anything else.

and most so called prophets think they must give a prophecy when in truth they don't but you go on youtube and man so many of these types of people giving a generic prophecy everyday most them is the same type of prophecy. very few times have I come across a genuine one and they are always keeping it to themselves until the right person comes along

a prophecy a day though? I don't think so

 

[Aaron56]

and most so called prophets think they must give a prophecy when in truth they don't but you go on youtube and man so many of these types of people giving a generic prophecy everyday most them is the same type of prophecy. very few times have I come across a genuine one and they are always keeping it to themselves until the right person comes along

a prophecy a day though? I don't think so

Yeah, the genuine ones I know are more interested in helping others hear the Lord - teaching them to recognize the Spirit in their daily walk - than "giving" a prophesy.

About 20 years ago... A prophet I knew very little about (at the time, we are friends now) was talking with me. He reached out his hand and placed it on my right side. This did not seem unusual. I thought he was going to hug me. But he stopped short and said "The Lord wants you to know that you will not die early."

What I had not told him was that I had chronic pain in the exact area he touched. There were several deaths in my family around that time and I had begun to worry that I might have cancer and die soon. He knew none of this. But the Lord knew. In a day the pain turned into an itch. In two weeks it was completely gone.

This was all said in private. Indeed no one would have known this story unless I shared it with them. There was no microphone, no camera. Just a prophet giving a word of knowledge from the Lord to one of His children.

 

[Blain]

Yeah, the genuine ones I know are more interested in helping others hear the Lord - teaching them to recognize the Spirit in their daily walk - than "giving" a prophesy.

About 20 years ago... A prophet I knew very little about (at the time, we are friends now) was talking with me. He reached out his hand and placed it on my right side. This did not seem unusual. I thought he was going to hug me. But he stopped short and said "The Lord wants you to know that you will not die early."

What I had not told him was that I had chronic pain in the exact area he touched. There were several deaths in my family around that time and I had begun to worry that I might have cancer and die soon. He knew none of this. But the Lord knew. In a day the pain turned into an itch. In two weeks it was completely gone.

This was all said in private. Indeed no one would have known this story unless I shared it with them. There was no microphone, no camera. Just a prophet giving a word of knowledge from the Lord to one of His children.

that is an amazing story yes a word of knowledge is often one the things a prophet recieves that happened to me once knowing things I could not have known before only once though it hasn't happened since then. But the gift of prohecy often involves things like that rather than a prophecy but I did know one person or rather I was watching him on youtube a sermon was being given and my room was a huge mess I was very depressed and was drinking alhohal to remidy it at the time I left beer cans all over not bothering to pick them up and the man stopped in the middle of his sermon looked towards the camera and said I see your room and it is just absolutely filthy beer cans everywhere and said you need to clean your room and stop drinking.

I was shocked thinking how did he know? he saw in the spirit

 

[CS1]

the issue is not the office. It is the one who claims the title. The "Gifts of Christ" given to the Church list in Eph 4, known in Greek as the Dorean.

These gifts have not ceased. which are :

1. prophets
2. apostles
3. evangelist
4. Pastor/ teacher

Teacher was added


Ephiasans 4:7-16

7 But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift.
8 Therefore He says:

“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”
9 (Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)

11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,

12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;
14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

 

[oldman]

Yeah, the genuine ones I know are more interested in helping others hear the Lord - teaching them to recognize the Spirit in their daily walk - than "giving" a prophesy.

About 20 years ago... A prophet I knew very little about (at the time, we are friends now) was talking with me. He reached out his hand and placed it on my right side. This did not seem unusual. I thought he was going to hug me. But he stopped short and said "The Lord wants you to know that you will not die early."

What I had not told him was that I had chronic pain in the exact area he touched. There were several deaths in my family around that time and I had begun to worry that I might have cancer and die soon. He knew none of this. But the Lord knew. In a day the pain turned into an itch. In two weeks it was completely gone.

This was all said in private. Indeed no one would have known this story unless I shared it with them. There was no microphone, no camera. Just a prophet giving a word of knowledge from the Lord to one of His children.

I got a witness in my heart that that is spot on from the Lord.
This is a good example of how to move in prophecy.

 

[oldman]

What if someone says, "I am a pastor" or "I am an elder" or "I am a teacher." Is it forbidden to recognize one's role in the body? If someone is truly humble, can't one state one's ministry or role without sinning?

I was taught early on that to give a false prophect in the OT resulted in the death of that 'prophet'. To start giving a word from the Lord -phophecy - with "Thus saith the Lord..." should not be taken lightly and I don't. If time permits I'll share it with the pastor or an elder and let them judge. If they approve I'll speak it out.

To answer your question. What others claim is on them. For me I won't claim that office. The words themselves speak to thier
authenticity.

 

[sawdust]

So I know some believe that prophets are not for today but this question is based on a what if scenario. I ask because there are so many so called prophets out there and most people have grown to the point that if any prophecy is given they automically disregard it and with all these false prophets today you cannot really blame them. I mean I went on tiktok today and just out of curiosity searched prophetic word and one lady literally made a prophecy because she woke up tasting cookie dough in her mouth.

This made me think, if a genuine prophet is out there what makes them different from the rest? what gifts coincide with a prophet? and how would one know if they have that calling? most think of prophets as fortune tellers but that is not what the role of a prophet is they are not fortune tellers they serve a purpose in the body.

God appoints prophets and they must be 100% accurate in the foretelling.

Ephesians 4:11
And he himself gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers,

Deuteronomy 18:22
whenever a prophet speaks in my name and the prediction is not fulfilled, then I have not spoken it; the prophet has presumed to speak it, so you need not fear him.”

 

[Blain]

To be honest I wonder if it is right or wrong to claim to be a prophet, I don't knoe for sure if it is prideful or just stating the role you have been given but I believe that if one is a prophet others will see it in them. and if your given prophecies to speak does that mean your a prophet or are you just walking in the gift of the prophetic?
For instance as I said before some have called me a prophet and yes I do recieve prophecies from time to time to give b

And the way I work it is always in written form usually in the form of a psalm or poem but mainly I don't consider myself to be a prophet and I don't know if that is just me being humble or if I am just denying my position within the body. I am scared actually to call myself one because it is like once you do that suddenly everyone is on high alert and will either disregard you and call you a false prophet which is the worst thing to be called or most just don't belueve anything you say

The thing is you have to have the utmost respect for God's voice and words if one is to claim to speak for him as I always say those who claim to speak for him will be held accountable more so than most for the words they speak and it is not to be taken lightly and seeing all these false prophets so casually speaking for him misleading his church without any regard to what they are doing infuriates me it is an insult to God in my opinion

But what room do I have to talk if I am a prophet then the accountability by God is the same for me if I merely walk in the gift of prophgecy and am not a prophet then I need not be so afraid but I just don't know if even though I have been called one if I should accept it or from fear of such a role disregard it and is that being humble or is it just denying the postion given.

 

[Blain]

God appoints prophets and they must be 100% accurate in the foretelling.

Ephesians 4:11
And he himself gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers,

Deuteronomy 18:22
whenever a prophet speaks in my name and the prediction is not fulfilled, then I have not spoken it; the prophet has presumed to speak it, so you need not fear him.”

what if their prophecy doesn't happen for years are they false prophets until it hap[pens or by faith do they wait on the Lord to fulfill it?

 

[CS1]

To be honest I wonder if it is right or wrong to claim to be a prophet, I don't knoe for sure if it is prideful or just stating the role you have been given but I believe that if one is a prophet others will see it in them. and if your given prophecies to speak does that mean your a prophet or are you just walking in the gift of the prophetic?
For instance as I said before some have called me a prophet and yes I do recieve prophecies from time to time to give b

And the way I work it is always in written form usually in the form of a psalm or poem but mainly I don't consider myself to be a prophet and I don't know if that is just me being humble or if I am just denying my position within the body. I am scared actually to call myself one because it is like once you do that suddenly everyone is on high alert and will either disregard you and call you a false prophet which is the worst thing to be called or most just don't belueve anything you say

The thing is you have to have the utmost respect for God's voice and words if one is to claim to speak for him as I always say those who claim to speak for him will be held accountable more so than most for the words they speak and it is not to be taken lightly and seeing all these false prophets so casually speaking for him misleading his church without any regard to what they are doing infuriates me it is an insult to God in my opinion

But what room do I have to talk if I am a prophet then the accountability by God is the same for me if I merely walk in the gift of prophecy and am not a prophet then I need not be so afraid but I just don't know if even though I have been called one if I should accept it or from fear of such a role disregard it and is that being humble or is it just denying the position given.

One who is doing the work of a prophet is one. Yet if we read the word of God, the people in the Old and New Testament knew who was a prophet of GOD.

I do not see where any Old Testament prophets said, " I am a prophet." Elijah told GOD, "I was the only one left," which God told him he was not. There may be a few others, but most of the time, God and the people called such one a prophet, but not the one who was. Why?



The work they did was self-evident.

 

[CS1]

Prophesying doesn't mean you are a prophet.

 

[Blain]

Prophesying doesn't mean you are a prophet.

I wish I knew of a legit one so that I could learn from them and test the prophecies I am given to make sure they are indeed from the Lord or at the very least someone I can trust to know and decipher if it is true and from God.

I mean it is a hard ask one would need to be able to have discernemnt and not be biased on their own beliefs plus they would need to have the wisdom required and walk in the spirit.