What is Holy Communion?
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The false Catholic sacrifice of the mass isn't in the Bible. The Jesus of the mass is a false Jesus.
I wasn't talking about Catholic. I was talking about Communion. You didn't answer my question. Bible verse please.
I never said communion isn't in the Bible. I think I may have said earlier that it's never called "holy communion" in the Bible but that's not what you quoted. I'm not sure what I said that you're taking issue with.
You said receiving Communion is receiving false Jesus. I just said, give proof of it from the Bible. It's still your words I'm hearing. No issues. It's okay if you have nothing for me from the Bible. Peace brother
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• John 6:52 . .The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this
man give us [his] flesh to eat?”
• John 6:62 . . Since Jesus knew that his disciples were murmuring about this,
he said to them, “Does this shock you? What if you were to see the Son of
Man ascending to where he was before?
Here's thing. The Jews could cannibalize Jesus' body while he was physically
present; but supposing they lost access to his body; then what?
The process of transubstantiation was invented as a contingency to address
this difficulty, but no matter how we cut a pumpkin pie, it's still a pumpkin
pie, i.e. cannibalism is cannibalism no matter the method one goes about it.
A very important difficulty associated with transubstantiation is the body that
folks are supposed to eat is Jesus' crucified body (Luke 22:19 & 1Cor 11:24)
Well; the flesh and blood of that body no longer exist, having undergone a
transformation sometime after Jesus' resurrection.
We must also ask: Is the flesh of his body that folks are supposed to eat
living flesh or dead? The reason I ask is because Gen 9:4 says:
"Only meat with its lifeblood still in it you shall not eat."
So the flesh from Jesus' body that folks are supposed to eat has to be quite
dead beyond any chance of recovery. This again is problematic because
Jesus' transformed body is immortal, i.e. it cannot die. (Rom 6:9 & Rev 1:18)
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• John 6:52 . .The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this
man give us [his] flesh to eat?”
• John 6:62 . . Since Jesus knew that his disciples were murmuring about this,
he said to them, “Does this shock you? What if you were to see the Son of
Man ascending to where he was before?
Here's thing. The Jews could cannibalize Jesus' body while he was physically
present; but supposing they lost access to his body; then what?
The process of transubstantiation was invented as a contingency to address
this difficulty, but no matter how we cut a pumpkin pie, it's still a pumpkin
pie, i.e. cannibalism is cannibalism no matter the method one goes about it.
A very important difficulty associated with transubstantiation is the body that
folks are supposed to eat is Jesus' crucified body (Luke 22:19 & 1Cor 11:24)
Well; the flesh and blood of that body no longer exist, having undergone a
transformation sometime after Jesus' resurrection.
We must also ask: Is the flesh of his body that folks are supposed to eat
living flesh or dead? The reason I ask is because Gen 9:4 says:
"Only meat with its lifeblood still in it you shall not eat."
So the flesh from Jesus' body that folks are supposed to eat has to be quite
dead beyond any chance of recovery. This again is problematic because
Jesus' transformed body is immortal, i.e. it cannot die. (Rom 6:9 & Rev 1:18)
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It really is the body and blood of Christ that is being offered and received in Holy Communion under the bread and wine:
! Corinthians 10:16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?
! Corinthians 10:16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?
You're overlooking one critical fact. On the night He was betrayed, He said this is my body which is broken for you; and this is my blood which was shed for you. So it's an established fact that when He says do this in remembrance of Me, he's talking about His physical body and blood, not His glorified body.
The lord died once and his blood was shed once. We can't call Him up from the dead and can consume Him again and again. The body and blood we partake of is the once-for-all sacrifice of His body and blood. We do this by remembering Him and what He did in the past. He's not present in the elements, either in physical form or spiritual form. This defies common sense; and more importantly it's contrary to what the Lord Himself taught us.