It's not ridiculous at all. It's Bible.
Paul never said the law is void.
For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Galatians 5:14
If we move our neighbor as ourself we don't steal,murder, lie,etc...
What if God had written IN STONE?
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Paul never said the law is void.
For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Galatians 5:14
If we move our neighbor as ourself we don't steal,murder, lie,etc...
We don't keep the law because we are subject to it, but because it is in us...Romans 6:17. In other words, we walk in the Spirit who cannot lead us into sin. We don't obey as a result of effort, but because we walk in the light.
That's right. God's laws are written on our hearts so we are never far from them.
The ideology some in the world follow today that insists the law no longer exists nor applies are telling us a great deal about their philosophy.
neither are we judged by it, because in Him we have died.
we have what's known as actual salvation
it's not a half-saved-but-maybe-actually-damned situation! God is faithful!
Our Salvation doesn't give us license to break God's law. We shall be judged. Not as the unbelievers are but we shall face God at the judgement.neither are we judged by it, because in Him we have died.
we have what's known as actual salvation
it's not a half-saved-but-maybe-actually-damned situation! God is faithful!
2 Corinthians 5:10
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.”
No I don't. I think being saved means we are no longer under the penalty of sin. Thus, no judgment.
Why didn't I think of that?
Wait...I quoted scripture. I guess I did think of that.
No, it is your misinterpretation of "Bible".
Nor did I, but it states in Hebrews that the Law is obsolete.
The Law requires perfection, and you cannot "love" perfectly in your own strength.
What "scripture" are you reading? The Bible tells me that he is correct.
Ah... you think that either someone is under the Law or they are a profligate sinner.
Yeah... I've seen your error many times, and always from people who don't understand the Bible's message to believers in Christ.
Yes, we established that already. I am also saying God broke the covenant after that, because the bible says that directly and plainly.
Zechariah 11:4 Thus saith the LORD my God; Feed the flock of the slaughter;
Zechariah 11:5 Whose possessors slay them, and hold themselves not guilty: and they that sell them say, Blessed be the LORD; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.
Zechariah 11:6 For I will no more pity the inhabitants of the land, saith the LORD: but, lo, I will deliver the men every one into his neighbour's hand, and into the hand of his king: and they shall smite the land, and out of their hand I will not deliver them.
Zechariah 11:7 And I will feed the flock of slaughter, even you, O poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Beauty, and the other I called Bands; and I fed the flock.
Zechariah 11:8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.
Zechariah 11:9 Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another.
Zechariah 11:10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
Zechariah 11:11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
The covenant being broken by God, but only after the people broke it first.
I'll stick with Jesus who tells us if we live him,love him, we will keep his commands.
And while praying for those who will make their arguments against the jurisdiction of God's laws to Christians when they meet him face to face.
Jesus said if we love him we will keep his commands.
Not because we are sinners who sin,given we are not any longer,but because we are indwelt by the Holy Spirit and follow his leading to obey his commands not out of fear but out of reverence and respect for the holiness road.
I'll walk that.
With the light of my Lord leading the way. And I shall rest assured in the journey because grace set me free of sin and sealed me in his grace covenant for eternity. And God's commands written on my heart set me on his righteous path so to be able to differentiate between his truth and false detours.
Maranatha! God is the glory.
So explain, from within your understanding of Scripture, the Sabbath of Hebrews 4.
Look to Psalm 95:11 and Numbers 14.
Then see that our rest comes in obedience to God if we learn from those prior passages what disobedience entails.
Then read Hebrews 3 and 4.
Aside from "assigning" some reading in Scripture, you said, "Our rest comes in obedience to God if we learn from those prior passages what disobedience entails."
I don't consider that an answer to my question, but you do, so I'll respond accordingly.
Our rest does not "come" at all. We enter it. We don't enter it "in obedience to God if..." anything. We enter it by faith: by believing (without seeing, for we cannot see) that Jesus has paid the penalty for our sin in full and we no longer need to do anything but believe. As Jesus said, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent" (John 6:29). We rest from "our" works of following the Law, because in Jesus the Law is fulfilled... completely, not partially. In Christ we are no longer debtors to the Law.
Paul wrote in Galatians 3, "I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh?" So you, @MeowFlower, who believes you must obey a fleshly sabbath, what do you hope to achieve? Do you pretend that you are more righteous than me, and that God owes you something for your works? Do you think that by attending to some bits of the requirement of one single commandment that you warrant His favour? Are you, like the Galatians, "so foolish"?
It's fine that your philosophy does not consider my prior scripture references an answer to your question.
They are in fact though. They lay the groundwork from the Old testament and are then reiterated in the OT message in those New testament verses.
The point of your question was obviously to cast aspersions against the Sabbath itself.
That's unfortunate.
When someone wilfully denies the full body of the covenant of grace because they are opposed to part of it because they errantly insist a part was for "Jews only" they have denied the cross itself. While demonstrating they know nothing of the faith we hold in Yeshua.
Thanks for your time and the opportunity to witness your philosophy.