What if God had written IN STONE?
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neither are we judged by it, because in Him we have died.
we have what's known as actual salvation
it's not a half-saved-but-maybe-actually-damned situation! God is faithful!
we have what's known as actual salvation
it's not a half-saved-but-maybe-actually-damned situation! God is faithful!
2 Corinthians 5:10
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.”
What "scripture" are you reading? The Bible tells me that he is correct.
Ah... you think that either someone is under the Law or they are a profligate sinner.
Yeah... I've seen your error many times, and always from people who don't understand the Bible's message to believers in Christ.
Ah... you think that either someone is under the Law or they are a profligate sinner.
Yeah... I've seen your error many times, and always from people who don't understand the Bible's message to believers in Christ.
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Yes, we established that already. I am also saying God broke the covenant after that, because the bible says that directly and plainly.
Zechariah 11:4 Thus saith the LORD my God; Feed the flock of the slaughter;
Zechariah 11:5 Whose possessors slay them, and hold themselves not guilty: and they that sell them say, Blessed be the LORD; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.
Zechariah 11:6 For I will no more pity the inhabitants of the land, saith the LORD: but, lo, I will deliver the men every one into his neighbour's hand, and into the hand of his king: and they shall smite the land, and out of their hand I will not deliver them.
Zechariah 11:7 And I will feed the flock of slaughter, even you, O poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Beauty, and the other I called Bands; and I fed the flock.
Zechariah 11:8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.
Zechariah 11:9 Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another.
Zechariah 11:10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
Zechariah 11:11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
The covenant being broken by God, but only after the people broke it first.
Zechariah 11:4 Thus saith the LORD my God; Feed the flock of the slaughter;
Zechariah 11:5 Whose possessors slay them, and hold themselves not guilty: and they that sell them say, Blessed be the LORD; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.
Zechariah 11:6 For I will no more pity the inhabitants of the land, saith the LORD: but, lo, I will deliver the men every one into his neighbour's hand, and into the hand of his king: and they shall smite the land, and out of their hand I will not deliver them.
Zechariah 11:7 And I will feed the flock of slaughter, even you, O poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Beauty, and the other I called Bands; and I fed the flock.
Zechariah 11:8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.
Zechariah 11:9 Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another.
Zechariah 11:10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
Zechariah 11:11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
The covenant being broken by God, but only after the people broke it first.
I'll stick with Jesus who tells us if we live him,love him, we will keep his commands.
And while praying for those who will make their arguments against the jurisdiction of God's laws to Christians when they meet him face to face.
Jesus said if we love him we will keep his commands.
Not because we are sinners who sin,given we are not any longer,but because we are indwelt by the Holy Spirit and follow his leading to obey his commands not out of fear but out of reverence and respect for the holiness road.
I'll walk that.
With the light of my Lord leading the way. And I shall rest assured in the journey because grace set me free of sin and sealed me in his grace covenant for eternity. And God's commands written on my heart set me on his righteous path so to be able to differentiate between his truth and false detours.
Maranatha! God is the glory.
And while praying for those who will make their arguments against the jurisdiction of God's laws to Christians when they meet him face to face.
Jesus said if we love him we will keep his commands.
Not because we are sinners who sin,given we are not any longer,but because we are indwelt by the Holy Spirit and follow his leading to obey his commands not out of fear but out of reverence and respect for the holiness road.
I'll walk that.
With the light of my Lord leading the way. And I shall rest assured in the journey because grace set me free of sin and sealed me in his grace covenant for eternity. And God's commands written on my heart set me on his righteous path so to be able to differentiate between his truth and false detours.
Maranatha! God is the glory.
Aside from "assigning" some reading in Scripture, you said, "Our rest comes in obedience to God if we learn from those prior passages what disobedience entails."
I don't consider that an answer to my question, but you do, so I'll respond accordingly.
Our rest does not "come" at all. We enter it. We don't enter it "in obedience to God if..." anything. We enter it by faith: by believing (without seeing, for we cannot see) that Jesus has paid the penalty for our sin in full and we no longer need to do anything but believe. As Jesus said, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent" (John 6:29). We rest from "our" works of following the Law, because in Jesus the Law is fulfilled... completely, not partially. In Christ we are no longer debtors to the Law.
Paul wrote in Galatians 3, "I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh?" So you, @MeowFlower, who believes you must obey a fleshly sabbath, what do you hope to achieve? Do you pretend that you are more righteous than me, and that God owes you something for your works? Do you think that by attending to some bits of the requirement of one single commandment that you warrant His favour? Are you, like the Galatians, "so foolish"?
I don't consider that an answer to my question, but you do, so I'll respond accordingly.
Our rest does not "come" at all. We enter it. We don't enter it "in obedience to God if..." anything. We enter it by faith: by believing (without seeing, for we cannot see) that Jesus has paid the penalty for our sin in full and we no longer need to do anything but believe. As Jesus said, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent" (John 6:29). We rest from "our" works of following the Law, because in Jesus the Law is fulfilled... completely, not partially. In Christ we are no longer debtors to the Law.
Paul wrote in Galatians 3, "I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh?" So you, @MeowFlower, who believes you must obey a fleshly sabbath, what do you hope to achieve? Do you pretend that you are more righteous than me, and that God owes you something for your works? Do you think that by attending to some bits of the requirement of one single commandment that you warrant His favour? Are you, like the Galatians, "so foolish"?
It's fine that your philosophy does not consider my prior scripture references an answer to your question.
They are in fact though. They lay the groundwork from the Old testament and are then reiterated in the OT message in those New testament verses.
The point of your question was obviously to cast aspersions against the Sabbath itself.
That's unfortunate.
When someone wilfully denies the full body of the covenant of grace because they are opposed to part of it because they errantly insist a part was for "Jews only" they have denied the cross itself. While demonstrating they know nothing of the faith we hold in Yeshua.
Thanks for your time and the opportunity to witness your philosophy.
They are in fact though. They lay the groundwork from the Old testament and are then reiterated in the OT message in those New testament verses.
The point of your question was obviously to cast aspersions against the Sabbath itself.
That's unfortunate.
When someone wilfully denies the full body of the covenant of grace because they are opposed to part of it because they errantly insist a part was for "Jews only" they have denied the cross itself. While demonstrating they know nothing of the faith we hold in Yeshua.
Thanks for your time and the opportunity to witness your philosophy.