What does the verse mean: "Many are called but few are chosen"
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As hard as it is to accept, not everyone is saved. It is a very difficult idea to grasp because we all want to believe that everyone will be saved, but that simply is not the case. Christ died for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2), but many don't act upon that sacrifice and accept Him as Savior. Their hearts are hardened and they reject Christ. Many even reject the idea of God entirely. These people aren't chosen. They aren't apart of the elect. READ EPHESIANS 1:4-5: He chose us before the foundation of the world. In love, He PREDESTINED us.
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13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
You probably meant something different than how your posts will be interpreted. Are you saying that you believe they all go to heaven or are you saying that those on the broad way THINK they are going to heaven but they are wrong?
You probably meant something different than how your posts will be interpreted. Are you saying that you believe they all go to heaven or are you saying that those on the broad way THINK they are going to heaven but they are wrong?
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People who reject the idea of God might be pastors of churches 15 years from now. Rejecting the idea of God today does not mean they cannot choose the Gospel when they hear it with faith someday. At the point that they choose to believe they become part of the elect. We are all invited to have faith in Jesus. Those who do are accepted as the elect. Those who don't are not part of the elect. Their choice is what excluded them. In the foreknowledge of God he already knows how it all ends, but that never means we do not have a choice. This will keep getting discussed until Jesus comes back again and then we will see the Salvation of God Face to Face, Eye to Eye and understand how important it was for us to be using our time to preach the Gospel to every creature and we will be accountable for our laziness, indifference and sloth in this regard.
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read and know the scriptures = most of the time when our Heavenly Father is calling us,
we make 'so many excuses WHY we can't come unto Him))) -
MATT. 8:21.
And another of His disciples said unto Him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury My Father.
(this would seem like a perfectly acceptable reason NOT TO FOLLOW a religious leader -
but, it is written:
DEAU. 6:5.
And you shall LOVE The LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might'.
MATT. 10:38.
And he that takes not his cross, and follows after Me, is not worthy of Me.
just wondering how many know what exactly Christ is talking about???
we make 'so many excuses WHY we can't come unto Him))) -
MATT. 8:21.
And another of His disciples said unto Him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury My Father.
(this would seem like a perfectly acceptable reason NOT TO FOLLOW a religious leader -
but, it is written:
DEAU. 6:5.
And you shall LOVE The LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might'.
MATT. 10:38.
And he that takes not his cross, and follows after Me, is not worthy of Me.
just wondering how many know what exactly Christ is talking about???
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They are all the elect children of God, and all of the elect are going to heaven. I believe that Romans 10 deals with this same subject. Paul's prayer is that Israel (Jacob/Israel) might be saved (delivered, here in time, not eternally because they have already been born again) from their ignorance of God's righteousness. These are lost sheep (God's elect of the house of Jacob/Israel) because their shepherds have taught them a false gospel of eternal salvation by their good works. (Jer 50:6).
God changed Jacob's name to be called Israel (Gen 32:28) and Jacob is representative of God's elect people (Rom 9:6-16).
The straight gate that leads to life is not referring to eternal life, but to that good and abundant life, that God has made available to his obedient children as they sojourn here in this world. (Deut 30:19-20)..
God changed Jacob's name to be called Israel (Gen 32:28) and Jacob is representative of God's elect people (Rom 9:6-16).
The straight gate that leads to life is not referring to eternal life, but to that good and abundant life, that God has made available to his obedient children as they sojourn here in this world. (Deut 30:19-20)..
1 Cor 2:14 says that the natural man, before he has been regenerated with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, cannot discern the things of the Spirit, and thinks them to be foolishness, so, how does he choose to believe in spiritual things and become a part of the elect?
The natural man, before he has been regenerated, only has faith in man. Spiritual faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit and comes with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, in the new birth.
Colossians 1:23 says that the gospel WAS PREACHED TO EVERY CREATURE UNDER HEAVEN.
The natural man, before he has been regenerated, only has faith in man. Spiritual faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit and comes with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, in the new birth.
Colossians 1:23 says that the gospel WAS PREACHED TO EVERY CREATURE UNDER HEAVEN.
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13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
It is obvious that he is talking about the Kingdom of God again. There is only one way in. Those on the broadway do not get in, they go into destruction instead.
Do you believe in checking commentaries to help you see if you are making mistakes in your interpretations?
I do not read other people's interpretation of the scriptures, other than on this forum. I believe that scriptures prove scriptures, and that they must all harmonize, by revelation of the Holy Spirit, in order to understand the doctrine that Jesus taught. I do use a Greek concordance.
Many children of God go into destruction by believing in false doctrines. Just look at the diversity in the people participating in this forum. Just because we are born again, does not mean that we don't carry the baggage of our fleshly nature with us. Paul explains that pretty well in Romans 8 thru 25.
Many children of God go into destruction by believing in false doctrines. Just look at the diversity in the people participating in this forum. Just because we are born again, does not mean that we don't carry the baggage of our fleshly nature with us. Paul explains that pretty well in Romans 8 thru 25.
He believes that any person who believes in any type of god is born from above and on their way to heaven no matter their religion, or even if they deny belief in Christ. We debated this in one thread here on this site. It's probably listed under threads started by me.
He also believes and teaches that belief in the Gospel that is the power of God unto salvation only means that they experience a temporal deliverance in this life, which is the limit he places on salvation via the Gospel.
Of course this is all contrary to Scripture yet it is the false teaching of the heresy "Conditional Time Salvation" propagated by Primitive Baptists. They generally abuse and misapply 1 Corinthians 2:14 to such an extent that belief in a spirit god of any sort means "born from above." Belief in Christ or the Gospel isn't then necessary for eternal salvation.
He also believes and teaches that belief in the Gospel that is the power of God unto salvation only means that they experience a temporal deliverance in this life, which is the limit he places on salvation via the Gospel.
Of course this is all contrary to Scripture yet it is the false teaching of the heresy "Conditional Time Salvation" propagated by Primitive Baptists. They generally abuse and misapply 1 Corinthians 2:14 to such an extent that belief in a spirit god of any sort means "born from above." Belief in Christ or the Gospel isn't then necessary for eternal salvation.
The Lord gives us His principles. When scripture is read as a fight between Jew and Gentiles instead of God speaking to all men, they are often in error. Gal. 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
This applies to the Pharisees but it is telling us that God forgives based on faith not works.
This applies to the Pharisees but it is telling us that God forgives based on faith not works.
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The personal application would be that you should have a zeal for accomplishing God's mission in getting the harvest in, even if your part seems to be harder than someone else's part. The joy of getting the harvest in (saved souls) because 1) you love people and 2) it is God's plan and you love God and want to accomplish his will.
You should consider yourself unworthy of special honor or extra pay, and you should rejoice if someone else gets the same rewards as you but who did not have to go through the same hardships in the Masters service as you did.
This would be the same lesson whether you applied it to yourself or the erroneous religious mindset of the Jewish leaders Jesus was trying to correct. He knew they would not get it, but He knew others would read this and get it and say... "If I had been a Pharisee I would have embraced love and mercy and wanted to see sinners saved instead of being offended that the gentiles were going to be allowed eternal life and the inheritance of Abraham without following the strict guidelines of the Law." We view it in hindsight with spiritual illumination having been born again and operating in loving compassion.
So yes these parable are more for us than for those who were blinded to them, however in order to apply it to myself I must first grasp the main lesson being taught which requires that I see the correction being directed to the self righteous, proud spirit of the deceived Pharisee who thought they were the ones who had a zeal for the WORD of God and others were not as zealous for the Word as they were. Only when I understand it in its intended application can I then apply it correctly to my own life.
And it does always apply to my own life if I see in it something of myself. I might ask "How can I expect God to be toward me from this?" and the answer will always be "God will always be Himself as he has been in the past"
You should consider yourself unworthy of special honor or extra pay, and you should rejoice if someone else gets the same rewards as you but who did not have to go through the same hardships in the Masters service as you did.
This would be the same lesson whether you applied it to yourself or the erroneous religious mindset of the Jewish leaders Jesus was trying to correct. He knew they would not get it, but He knew others would read this and get it and say... "If I had been a Pharisee I would have embraced love and mercy and wanted to see sinners saved instead of being offended that the gentiles were going to be allowed eternal life and the inheritance of Abraham without following the strict guidelines of the Law." We view it in hindsight with spiritual illumination having been born again and operating in loving compassion.
So yes these parable are more for us than for those who were blinded to them, however in order to apply it to myself I must first grasp the main lesson being taught which requires that I see the correction being directed to the self righteous, proud spirit of the deceived Pharisee who thought they were the ones who had a zeal for the WORD of God and others were not as zealous for the Word as they were. Only when I understand it in its intended application can I then apply it correctly to my own life.
And it does always apply to my own life if I see in it something of myself. I might ask "How can I expect God to be toward me from this?" and the answer will always be "God will always be Himself as he has been in the past"
The personal application would be that you should have a zeal for accomplishing God's mission in getting the harvest in, even if your part seems to be harder than someone else's part. The joy of getting the harvest in (saved souls) because 1) you love people and 2) it is God's plan and you love God and want to accomplish his will.
You should consider yourself unworthy of special honor or extra pay, and you should rejoice if someone else gets the same rewards as you but who did not have to go through the same hardships in the Masters service as you did.
This would be the same lesson whether you applied it to yourself or the erroneous religious mindset of the Jewish leaders Jesus was trying to correct. He knew they would not get it, but He knew others would read this and get it and say... "If I had been a Pharisee I would have embraced love and mercy and wanted to see sinners saved instead of being offended that the gentiles were going to be allowed eternal life and the inheritance of Abraham without following the strict guidelines of the Law." We view it in hindsight with spiritual illumination having been born again and operating in loving compassion.
So yes these parable are more for us than for those who were blinded to them, however in order to apply it to myself I must first grasp the main lesson being taught which requires that I see the correction being directed to the self righteous, proud spirit of the deceived Pharisee who thought they were the ones who had a zeal for the WORD of God and others were not as zealous for the Word as they were. Only when I understand it in its intended application can I then apply it correctly to my own life.
And it does always apply to my own life if I see in it something of myself. I might ask "How can I expect God to be toward me from this?" and the answer will always be "God will always be Himself as he has been in the past"
You should consider yourself unworthy of special honor or extra pay, and you should rejoice if someone else gets the same rewards as you but who did not have to go through the same hardships in the Masters service as you did.
This would be the same lesson whether you applied it to yourself or the erroneous religious mindset of the Jewish leaders Jesus was trying to correct. He knew they would not get it, but He knew others would read this and get it and say... "If I had been a Pharisee I would have embraced love and mercy and wanted to see sinners saved instead of being offended that the gentiles were going to be allowed eternal life and the inheritance of Abraham without following the strict guidelines of the Law." We view it in hindsight with spiritual illumination having been born again and operating in loving compassion.
So yes these parable are more for us than for those who were blinded to them, however in order to apply it to myself I must first grasp the main lesson being taught which requires that I see the correction being directed to the self righteous, proud spirit of the deceived Pharisee who thought they were the ones who had a zeal for the WORD of God and others were not as zealous for the Word as they were. Only when I understand it in its intended application can I then apply it correctly to my own life.
And it does always apply to my own life if I see in it something of myself. I might ask "How can I expect God to be toward me from this?" and the answer will always be "God will always be Himself as he has been in the past"