Understanding God’s election

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Rufus

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Jesus called Judas friend, even knowing he would betray Him, and knowing he, Judas, was doomed to destruction...
No doubt due to OT prophecy that predicted that the Messiah's "close friend" would lift up his heel against him (Ps 41:9). But was Judas truly a friend? Or was he a "friend" in name only -- because he was part of a Jesus' circle of true friends? With friends like Judas, who needs enemies, right?
 

Magenta

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No doubt due to OT prophecy that predicted that the Messiah's "close friend" would lift up his heel
against him (Ps 41:9). But was Judas truly a friend? Or was he a "friend" in name only -- because
he was part of a Jesus' circle of true friends? With friends like Judas, who needs enemies, right?
It is interesting that Jesus repeatedly asked Peter if he loved Him, which distressed Peter to be so questioned
knowing that Jesus knew everything already... but the kicker really is that Jesus twice asked if Peter agape loved
Him, and Peter could only answer in the phileo love category, to which Jesus switched the third time He asked.
 
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Pot & Kettle.

Projection.

Eisegete calling another eisegete = the callee likely an exegete.
I view translators as exegetes and my roll as dot connector or harmonizing the exegeses,
which is what I have been practicing ever since making my first margin notes in my own
New English Bible way back circa 1968 (before the google era :^)
 

Rufus

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I view translators as exegetes and my roll as dot connector or harmonizing the exegeses,
which is what I have been practicing ever since making my first margin notes in my own
New English Bible way back circa 1968 (before the google era :^)
Must be nice living in your bubble of disillusionment.
 

Pilgrimshope

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I said it was to the Jews. Back then they didn't classify as Messianic like we do today. They were simply Jews.
“For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:12‬ ‭


“For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, how that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery;…which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

that the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭3:1, 3, 5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:28‬ ‭