[QUOTE="cv5, post: 5420590, member: 277646"
]That post was quite a load of Calvinite condemnation-ism there man. Outrageous.
The FACT is that God DEFININTELY wanted to save the Egyptians like He does everyone else.
The TRUTH is that ANY first born Egyptian would have lived IF they were "under the blood" inside any
home that believed God and had the Blood of the Lamb on the doorposts and lintel.
And all any Egyptian had to do was to step out and BELIEVE God and take REFUGE from the coming judgement as God commanded.
And no doubt every Egyptian was well aware of what the Hebrews were doing in term of this ritual.
Moses was informing Pharaoh on an ongoing basis for pity's sake. THEY KNEW what was going down and they
DEFINITELY knew of the Passover that God commanded.
[Exo 8:1 NLT]
Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go back to Pharaoh and announce to him, 'This is what the LORD says: Let my people go, so they can worship me.
[Exo 9:1 NLT]
"Go back to Pharaoh," the LORD commanded Moses. "Tell him, 'This is what the LORD, the God of the Hebrews, says: Let my people go, so they can worship me.
[Exo 9:13 NLT]
Then the LORD said to Moses, "Get up early in the morning and stand before Pharaoh. Tell him, 'This is what the LORD, the God of the Hebrews, says: Let my people go, so they can worship me.
[Exo 10:3 NLT]
So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and said, "This is what the LORD, the God of the Hebrews, says: How long will you refuse to submit to me? Let my people go, so they can worship me.
[Exo 10:7 NLT]
Pharaoh's officials now came to Pharaoh and appealed to him. "How long will you let this man hold us hostage? Let the men go to worship the LORD their God! Don't you realize that Egypt lies in ruins?"
And you fail to understand that Jacob, Joseph and the Hebrews in Egypt were there as God's priests
meant to EDUCATE the Egyptians about Who the True God is and how to be SAVED.
And you fail to understand that the 10 plagues upon Egypt was a demonstration of MERCY in that they
proved to the WORLD the identity of the True God. All that Pharaoh had to do was AGREE with the Man of God Moses
and let His people go.
Furthermore, the 10 plagues set upon Egypt were those that RAHAB and the Gibeonites
believed, and LED TO THEIR SALVATION.
So it is today. Untold millions throughout the ages have known and believed the Exodus account and have been saved according to the Word of God that codified the facts of the matter.
As for me, it was my research into the OT that led to my belief in the God of Israel so many years ago.
Despite your ghoulish lust for condemning all those you consider non-chosenites, God is a God of SALVATION and all that He does
He does in mercy and lovingkindness, even His judgements lead many to salvation. [/QUOTE]
If IF's and BUTs where candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas!
More wishful thinking from your overworked, spiritually-starved imagination. Show me from the Exodus narrative that God ever intended to save the Egyptians! Show me from the narrative where God told Moses that he's going to come down and rescue everyone in Egypt! Show me from the narrative where Aaron and Moses were sent to evangelize the Egyptians. Show me from the narrative wherein God also gave the Egyptians the same specific instructions for observing his Passover ritual that he had given to the Hebrews. God no more intended to save the Egyptians than he did Pharaoh himself! God hardened Pharaoh's heart so that he would not let God's firstborn go! Rom 9 tells us that God raised Pharaoh up to be the reprobate he was so that his power would be displayed in him.
In fact, regarding the Egyptians it is written that God CAUSED them to hate the ancient Hebrews!
Ps 105:23-25
23 Then Israel entered Egypt;
Jacob lived as an alien in the land of Ham.
24 The LORD made his people very fruitful;
he made them too numerous for their foes,
25 whose hearts he turned to hate his people,
to conspire against his servants.
NIV
So...these Egyptians whose hearts God "turned to hate his people" were always on God's salvation radar, heh, even though they had murderous hearts toward his chosen people? Seems to me they were more on God's judgment radar than his salvation screen!
It's utterly amazing how you non-reformed have no qualms whatsoever about making garbage up out of whole cloth to support to support your lies. You will not find a scintilla of biblical evidence that God ever intended to save any Egyptian. In fact, your theory is laughable given the fact that Pharaoh himself was a type of Satan and the nation of Egypt was a type of Satan's kingdom of darkness from which God "came down" to "rescue" his chosen people. God, through Moses (himself a type of Christ) did precisely what Jesus said he would to the evil one!
Matt 12:29
29 "Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man ? Then he can rob his house.
NIV
This is exactly what God did to Pharaoh through Moses! He robbed his house! God "stole" from Pharaoh virtually his entire enslaved workforce! God even eventually "bound" the "strong man's" magicians, sorcerers and enchanters, etc.; for they reached the point whereby God neutralized the satanic forces that were working through them so that they could no longer duplicate God's plagues!
And why are you so ignorant of the scriptures!? You wrote above that Joseph, Jacob and the Hebrews in Eqypt were placed there by God to "educate" the Egyptians. That would really be funny if such a statement weren't so pathetically impoverished of any true knowledge of the events. Don't you know that the ancient Hebrews, over the course of 400+ years in Egypt, had for the most part become as idolatrous as their slave masters (Josh 24:14; Ezek 20:7-8)? Perhaps the lesson the ancient Hebrews were supposed to teach to the Egyptians is how the blind guides can only lead the blind so that they both can fall into the pit!
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