Understanding God’s election
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And when you do find a Church that has NOT been affected, and then recognize the stupendously unbiblical nature of it and the fatally grave errors of that form of doctrine, TULIP gets thrown out into the gutter where it belongs.
Maybe finding Biblical truths have something to do with SEEKING them eh?
But whatever the case, happy is the man who seeks and then finds.
Maybe finding Biblical truths have something to do with SEEKING them eh?
But whatever the case, happy is the man who seeks and then finds.
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No real ability to respond means no just judgement can be rendered, and God is a cosmic villain for casting souls into the lake of fire.
That is one of Satan's arguments in his defense BTW.
Satan says that God created him that way. Bound to become evil.
Why is this servant wicked? Because he impugned the true character of God. He lied about what he knew to be true (the truth that God is good and just) and spread his lies. The ultimate "type" of the wicked servant is Satan himself BTW.
There are more "types" in this parable so remember that. The talent is the gospel message of salvation, not salvation itself.
[Mat 25:24 KJV]
Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
[Mat 25:26 KJV]
His lord answered and said unto him, [Thou] wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
[Mat 25:27 KJV]
Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and [then] at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
That is one of Satan's arguments in his defense BTW.
Satan says that God created him that way. Bound to become evil.
Why is this servant wicked? Because he impugned the true character of God. He lied about what he knew to be true (the truth that God is good and just) and spread his lies. The ultimate "type" of the wicked servant is Satan himself BTW.
There are more "types" in this parable so remember that. The talent is the gospel message of salvation, not salvation itself.
[Mat 25:24 KJV]
Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
[Mat 25:26 KJV]
His lord answered and said unto him, [Thou] wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
[Mat 25:27 KJV]
Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and [then] at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
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Time to pack your bags?
This advice being provided due to your views on eschatology and TULIP-ism.
I have left MANY Churches after ONE AUDITION. One.
I recognized IMMEDIATELY what they were all about. Instantaneously.
Others took a while longer.....but I did eventually bail.
Amillenialism just will not do. Neither will anti-rapture or TULIP.
This advice being provided due to your views on eschatology and TULIP-ism.
I have left MANY Churches after ONE AUDITION. One.
I recognized IMMEDIATELY what they were all about. Instantaneously.
Others took a while longer.....but I did eventually bail.
Amillenialism just will not do. Neither will anti-rapture or TULIP.
What utter nonsense. All moral agents (of age) have have real knowledge of good and evil and know they are morally flawed. And how can you shamelessly and arrogantly blaspheme God for being a "cosmic villain" when being compassionate and merciful to his helpless elect when he rescues them? Or is God a "cosmic villain" for providing no salvific remedy to the fallen angels?
Are you kidding me Christ Jesus states it more than a 100 times!
When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken (John 2:22).
A denial of the very words of Jesus, but then you state go find the verse as though the call to believe is some kind of lie Jesus was spreading.
That is right they believed, they embraced the truth of their own volition, it does NOT state God gave them belief.
Thomas’s experience is very rare. For he was one of the very few people in salvation history who actually was in the presence of Jesus—the presence of the risen Jesus, still bearing the marks of his crucifixion. But for the rest of us who claim the name of Christ, believing in Jesus has always been a matter of believing the witness, believing the testimony of those who did see, though we cannot. For this reason, John explicitly states the purpose of his gospel immediately after the story about Thomas.
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Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name (John 21:30–31).
When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken (John 2:22).
A denial of the very words of Jesus, but then you state go find the verse as though the call to believe is some kind of lie Jesus was spreading.
That is right they believed, they embraced the truth of their own volition, it does NOT state God gave them belief.
Thomas’s experience is very rare. For he was one of the very few people in salvation history who actually was in the presence of Jesus—the presence of the risen Jesus, still bearing the marks of his crucifixion. But for the rest of us who claim the name of Christ, believing in Jesus has always been a matter of believing the witness, believing the testimony of those who did see, though we cannot. For this reason, John explicitly states the purpose of his gospel immediately after the story about Thomas.
G3 Ministries
Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name (John 21:30–31).
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The better question would be: Why did you forget Rom 5:6 and Col 1:13? (And that actually makes me a two hit wonder, proving you can't count too swell either!) But...since you think you're the smartest person in the room, why don't you exegete those two passages for us? And since you appealed to the OT, why don't you show us from the Exodus account how self-sufficient and self-reliant the ancient Israelites were when they redeemed and rescued themselves from the clutches of Pharaoh? Now, I'm a three hit wonder. 
You have saved people believing. Okay. Of course they do. Their natures have been changed.
The examples you give are of those who are already redeemed. Of course they can believe. The Spirit of God is in them.
That the gospel is written to the end that people believe is also a given, given that God employs the gospel in salvation.
The examples you give are of those who are already redeemed. Of course they can believe. The Spirit of God is in them.
That the gospel is written to the end that people believe is also a given, given that God employs the gospel in salvation.
Actually no I have the correct starting point "the call to personal belief" and build from there, it is the "you can't believe crowd" that has the wrong starting point so nothing after that is of value because it is not TRUTH.
All you have are proof texts trying to deny, obfuscate and muddy the words of Christ Jesus.
Yeah it is the random grabbing of verses from all over to do that, but it has the wrong starting point and the wrong big picture so it will never add up.
All you have are proof texts trying to deny, obfuscate and muddy the words of Christ Jesus.
Yeah it is the random grabbing of verses from all over to do that, but it has the wrong starting point and the wrong big picture so it will never add up.