Understanding God’s election
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Yet, both Noah and Abraham were not predestined to be the Bride of Christ.
They were not chosen IN HIM before the foundation of the world to become the Lord's Helpmate.
We need to read what it says. Not what we want it to say.
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Imagine the state of being of someone who CHOOSES to remain inside their prison cell after SEAL Team Six rappels from a Black Hawk Helicopter, incapacitates the guards, gets the keys and opens the cell doors.
Anyoo.......the takeaway I get from hearing the doomer Calvinite dogmatic droning is confirmation of my own freedom. Yup I got it. And I get it. I did indeed escape. Lucky me.
Feels like I won the lottery man.
It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then,
and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of
slavery." Galatians 5:1
To see men free in the Devil's world makes Satan realize he has sweat glands..
Yoke of slavery = TULIP.
"You will, and must and force the illogical to be the logical!"You must besmirch the character of God!
Done in the name of saying it is His sovereignty!
I'll be right back.
Got to go to a Catholic church to confess my sins to some priest.
Truth is truth. Simply because it is revealed at a later time doesn't make it less true before it is known. Did bacteria always exist or only come into existence when they were discovered? Were humans not always made up of cells or did this occur when cells were discovered? We are still discovering things inside a cell. Simply because God has revealed truth gradually through history doesn't mean the truths didn't already exist.
And did you open your own eyes, unstop your own ears, circumcise your own
heart, and raise yourself to new life in Christ, or did Jesus do that for you?
He predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of His will.
Sure they were. Just because it wasn't revealed when they were alive doesn't mean they weren't. Jesus said Abraham saw His day and rejoiced in it.
I am always impressed how they have the same expressions, similar rhetoric... they sound like John Calvin.
"God's sovereign decrees"
Can any of them ever state "God is Love" without the proverbial coordinating conjuction .... "but"
They became "aware they were saved" .... how does that work.
That "special gnosis" and avoidance of stating any personal persuasion of hearing and believing.
If CDS does exists, perhaps it is because of how they have made what was once regarded a peripheral doctrine not supported by scripture into a acceptable doctrine to so many over time.
But it is a glorious thing to be released from that dogmatism, I concur.
One of us did. John isn't right. Salvation hasn't changed. God gradually introduced the truth concerning salvation. Salvation itself never changed.
Who are "they"? Any you disagree with? Those you lie about?
Scripture attests that God is love. You are the one who denies what Scripture says.
1 John 4:8b~ God is Love
Right on target sister. You possess expert marksmanship.
Head on a swivel when dealing with these Calvinites. And a good pair of cowboy boots will come in handy when traversing this viper infested territory.
You do not comprehend what it means to be the Bride of Christ.
John the Baptist was to remain being an OT Jew.
He knew he was not going to be the Bride which would mean he would have to remain alive to live in the Church age.
Here are John's words!
The bride belongs to the bridegroom.
The friend who attends the bridegroom waits and listens for him,
and is full of joy when he hears the bridegroom’s voice.
That joy is mine, and it is now complete. John 3:29
John knew he was the friend of the Bridegroom, not the Bride of Christ.
There is it is! Read what He told us...
The bride belongs to the bridegroom.
The friend who attends the bridegroom waits and listens for him,
and is full of joy when he hears the bridegroom’s voice.
That joy is mine, and it is now complete. John 3:29
grace and peace .............
John 1:1 + 14a In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us.
Yes. Abraham rejoiced with the same rejoicing as John the Baptist.
Someone wrote a book about learning all they needed to know about life they learned in kindergarten. All anyone needs to learn about salvation can be found in Genesis:Genesis 3:15
Chapter 3...blood atonement
Chapter 3...righteousness covering
Chapter 4...call on the name of God
Chapter 6...grace
Chapter 12...faith
All there in black and white. Easy peasy.