Trumps Tariffs

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ThereRoseaLamb

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Trump could probably walk around throwing his own poop and they would spin it like his genius. They're a cult

Wrong guy again, it was Biden who was doin' the poop scootin' boggie in front of the Queen. :poop: Pops should've slowed down on the Metamucil till after meeting HRH.
 

NightTwister

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No, they don't. If they agree to the tariffs everything they have been working for collapses, their economy returns to the 1980s, they don't get Taiwan, and they get to be the sweat shops for the world for another 30 years only now they'll have to compete with AI, 3d printers, robots, and fair trade.
How dare Trump make everyone pay the same thing they're charging us.
 

NightTwister

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No, they don't. If they agree to the tariffs everything they have been working for collapses, their economy returns to the 1980s, they don't get Taiwan, and they get to be the sweat shops for the world for another 30 years only now they'll have to compete with AI, 3d printers, robots, and fair trade.
Slave and child labor is immoral and unethical. As Christians, why would we want to keep China's prices low so that can continue to happen?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Hey, I'm not hatin'. I'm about getting to that age myself! Takin' those meds makes it go "like poo through a goose" as my dear mother says. Cause when you gotta go, you gotta go! :poop:

PS. I haven't used :poop: this emoji so much the entire time I've been here. lol
 

Magenta

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Hey, I'm not hatin'. I'm about getting to that age myself! Takin' those meds makes it go "like poo through a goose" as my dear mother says. Cause when you gotta go, you gotta go! :poop:

PS. I haven't used :poop: this emoji so much the entire time I've been here. lol
Well, when you mentioned that old geezer and the Queen I had to look it up, cuz, you know
how it goes, inquiring minds need to know! And honestly, especially that one where he got up
from the interview "early" and walked away, he really did look like he had just dropped one.
That poor old man! He lost the guards on his mind, on his tongue, and on his ... uh... his uh...


:poop:
 

studier

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Hey, I'm not hatin'. I'm about getting to that age myself! Takin' those meds makes it go "like poo through a goose" as my dear mother says. Cause when you gotta go, you gotta go! :poop:

PS. I haven't used :poop: this emoji so much the entire time I've been here. lol
That's the emoji I typically use in texts in response to all emojis because it best represents the entire concept of emojis.
 

ZNP

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How dare Trump make everyone pay the same thing they're charging us.
Apples and oranges. The fact is there is no trade deficit. It is impossible since all the transactions are in dollars. The only way these countries can export to us is if they import US debt. All the nations are the ones who were financing the $36 trillion debt. It is the reason the standard of living in the US is so high. Now they are objecting to paying for our debt which is why BRICS has been formed and so Trump told them if they refuse to buy our debt the US will refuse to buy their goods.

The entire economy is a lie. They can buy worthless paper knowing they'll never get it back and the US may simply seize their bonds the way they seized Russia's, and continue with this charade. Or this charade comes to an end now.

The only thing Trump is going to accomplish is to unify 95% of the world against the US. For example, consider Canada, our closest ally, and their response to what he is doing. If they are so vocally opposed imagine what all the other countries are thinking. There is no other way for the US to pay our debts without declaring bankruptcy, but if the world capitulates they'll be forced to do this again and again year after year. China, Russia, Iran and N. Korea are already agreed that they will not do that and would rather destroy the US than do that.
 

ZNP

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Yes, but he didn't throw the poop at anyone. If he had done that he would have been feared instead of mocked, that was Dude's point. The liberals like to claim they are descended from monkeys and he was saying if Biden had simply gone full gorilla mode he would have been seen as a genius by the Libs.
 

ZNP

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Slave and child labor is immoral and unethical. As Christians, why would we want to keep China's prices low so that can continue to happen?
I never said that we do want to keep China's prices low. I am saying the situation for Xi is similar to Scar in the lion King. He was told to step down and he said he would only the hyenas wouldn't allow it.
 

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I never said that we do want to keep China's prices low. I am saying the situation for Xi is similar to Scar in the lion King. He was told to step down and he said he would only the hyenas wouldn't allow it.
Global economics isn't a Disney movie. Ironically, they stole that story.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Well, when you mentioned that old geezer and the Queen I had to look it up, cuz, you know
how it goes, inquiring minds need to know! And honestly, especially that one where he got up
from the interview "early" and walked away, he really did look like he had just dropped one.
That poor old man! He lost the guards on his mind, on his tongue, and on his ... uh... his uh...


:poop:

I wasn't a fan of Biden when he had his faculties. But I have the lowest opinion saved for his wife. Lower than the media, lower than the Dems, his doctor and Harris who all flat out lied and said there was nothing wrong with him. She saw it all going down and still pushed him out in front of the world. I would say she is one gold digging, soulless, attention seeking... well we don't have an emoji for that. But she is one low class woman. And she certainly doesn't love the man.
 

ZNP

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6 trillion is 4x what the market lost after 911, even with inflation that is not chump change. That is just the US markets, the rest of the world has also suffered massive losses and China's export economy is in a total shambles. They don't tell the reallity because you have to put on a good face and avoid panic, But the whole world has seen how fragile the market is and how easy it is to spook the investors.

No one does this much damage to the world's economy unless there is a very good reason. If you support Trump then by all means support him that he is fighting a war and this was crucial. But don't pretend the curtain has been pulled back on the wizard of Oz.

They give you rosy pictures of what they say is going to happen in the hopes you will ignore what has happened.
 

studier

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6 trillion is 4x what the market lost after 911, even with inflation that is not chump change
Ultimately, why is this important beyond a certain point? Most of the market is perceived value based upon moving multipliers and speculation. I paid 10k for stock that was worth 1m. It dropped to 800k. I'm wiped out.
 

PennEd

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Think about it.

The Democrats and the left are so full of hypocrisy and wickedness it’s almost unbelievable.

When decent, Conservative Americans don’t like the policy of a company the most they might do is boycott them.
Like we did when Bud Light employed a sick, demonic man pretending to be a woman, to sell their beer.

When Democrats and the left don’t like a company’s policy they vandalize, burn, physically attack, and destroy the private property from that company.

Why any Christian would align themselves with that makes you question if they are Christian at all.
No one can convince me the left isn’t controlled by the god of this age. They act exactly like their father:

https://x.com/ImMeme0/status/1908880972134637788
 

ZNP

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Ultimately, why is this important beyond a certain point? Most of the market is perceived value based upon moving multipliers and speculation. I paid 10k for stock that was worth 1m. It dropped to 800k. I'm wiped out.
Think of the markets as blocks in a building. For many people their retirement account is left untouched, for them this doesn't really matter unless they were planning on retiring in the next two years. But for many people it is used as collateral to bring down the interest rate on their loans. The stock loses value and interest rate on loans goes up. This is especially true of corporations where their stock price is used. So when you have losses on this scale it means other things must also be sold to help keep them solvent. But it also means that people will buy and spend less and borrow less. But that is only one side of the damage done. The other side is people value an investment on "risk/reward". When stocks are very volatile like this it means the risk is greater and the reward is less. So this will have long term impact on the trust people have in the market. Finally, the price of stocks is what the odds makers (investors) are calculating it will return over the next 5-10 years. This drop in price is evidence that worldwide there is a consensus that global trade will be severely hurt. It is a hive mind and should not be ignored. The reason herds stampede is they realize they can't see everything. There might be a lion they don't see, but if another animal sees it and is running they had better start running too. This worldwide drop indicates that they have seen a lion. I suspect what they have seen is that WW3 will go nuclear.