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Cameron143

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They said the same things about Trump. They said oh all the stuff he said will come back to bite him. They said oh he's crazy. They said oh he's stupid. And look at them now. Let's not become like them. Underestimating AOC is not prudent especially as she has now marked herself out as the only democrat that is actually introspecting. Let me put it another way because it is a long time until the next election, she's one to keep an eye on.
AOC...all out crazy 🤪.
Nuff said.
 

SonJudgment

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AOC...all out crazy 🤪.
Nuff said.
So is Trump, and that's not a dig at Trump but is indeed part of the factor to his credit, very high energy. Running one of the two major political parties, much less the country of the USA in many senses requires a certain kind of crazy. Also note that while Trump won, so did AOC. That's why it's interesting with the news and AOC slight introspection while the rest of the left tells us both how they're going to support women's rights to be whores while also threatening a sex strike . AOC is the the one actually thinking here. Interesting is the way the Lord God moves the principalities and powers. Something to watch for both the knowledge-mongers as well as the wise.

https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-supporters-donald-trump-split-ticket-reasons-establishment-1983849
 

Cameron143

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So is Trump, and that's not a dig at Trump but is indeed part of the factor to his credit, very high energy. Running one of the two major political parties, much less the country of the USA in many senses requires a certain kind of crazy. Also note that while Trump won, so did AOC. That's why it's interesting with the news and AOC slight introspection while the rest of the left tells us both how they're going to support women's rights to be whores while also threatening a sex strike . AOC is the the one actually thinking here. Interesting is the way the Lord God moves the principalities and powers. Something to watch for both the knowledge-mongers as well as the wise.

https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-supporters-donald-trump-split-ticket-reasons-establishment-1983849
What were the reasons? I only heard Liz Chaney. She still said Kamala was still clearly a better choice.
 

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Is it a sin to say AOC has a nice figure? I was going to use another word…. Hahaa
It's not a sin to notice that a woman is outwardly attractive.
 

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What were the reasons? I only heard Liz Chaney. She still said Kamala was still clearly a better choice.
Both articles posted list the same basic reasons, but it seems the top 3 reasons were both's personalities just frankly, saw both as establishment outsiders or agents of change, and then the peace doves or more foreign policy inclined.

I'll copy paste and bold a few quotes below.

Out of the 20 responses Ocasio-Cortez shared, the majority of them mentioned her and Trump's status as "outsider" politicians who were not part of the establishment. "I voted Trump, but I like you and Bernie. I don't trust either party's establishment politicians," one reply said.

Another voter said: "I feel that you both are outsiders compared to the rest of DC, and less establishment," with another saying: "You signified change. Trump signified change. I've said lately, Trump sounds more like you."

Another frequent point was foreign policy, particularly the war in Gaza. The Harris campaign faced difficulty navigating their approach to the Middle East, with several polls showing that Arab Americans were unhappy with the Biden administration's handling of conflict.

One voter confirmed they voted for Ocasio-Cortez, but not Harris, replying: "I voted for Trump and you, not genocide Harris. Dems need Bernie!!"

Another said: "[Trump] speaks of war as something that is bad. Democrats became the party that supports war."
 

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Both articles posted list the same basic reasons, but it seems the top 3 reasons were both's personalities just frankly, saw both as establishment outsiders or agents of change, and then the peace doves or more foreign policy inclined.

I'll copy paste and bold a few quotes below.

Out of the 20 responses Ocasio-Cortez shared, the majority of them mentioned her and Trump's status as "outsider" politicians who were not part of the establishment. "I voted Trump, but I like you and Bernie. I don't trust either party's establishment politicians," one reply said.

Another voter said: "I feel that you both are outsiders compared to the rest of DC, and less establishment," with another saying: "You signified change. Trump signified change. I've said lately, Trump sounds more like you."

Another frequent point was foreign policy, particularly the war in Gaza. The Harris campaign faced difficulty navigating their approach to the Middle East, with several polls showing that Arab Americans were unhappy with the Biden administration's handling of conflict.

One voter confirmed they voted for Ocasio-Cortez, but not Harris, replying: "I voted for Trump and you, not genocide Harris. Dems need Bernie!!"

Another said: "[Trump] speaks of war as something that is bad. Democrats became the party that supports war."
The war part is good. The new Republican party doesn't want endless wars. They also don't want a woke military.
AOC may be an outsider, but she is cozy with the radical element of the Democrat party. She's still uber liberal and votes in step with the uniparty. She's part of the swamp and would have trouble separating herself from it.
Appreciate you going the extra mile to get me the info.
 

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The war part is good. The new Republican party doesn't want endless wars. They also don't want a woke military.
AOC may be an outsider, but she is cozy with the radical element of the Democrat party. She's still uber liberal and votes in step with the uniparty. She's part of the swamp and would have trouble separating herself from it.
Appreciate you going the extra mile to get me the info.
AOC's rise from the gutter into politics has curiously been in step with Trump's. Both despite her pageantry as well as in many cases directly because of her high energy efforts throughout this last decade have marked her out, indeed she is one to not overlook. Be as a foolish as the democrats that dismissed Trump to dismiss AOC. She has not repented fully of course, and how far she will go is to be seen, Still again look how the rest of the left be either melting down or just trying to play Satan's poison the well against Trump game in bitterness at their crushing defeat. She is the only one emerging as a real leader, the only one actually self-reflecting on this and learning and focusing higher tier things. Besides a potential future presidential candidate I believe she should wrest the gavel from that old witch Nancy Pelosi and put her away at last as Nancy's hand was heavy in failing the election for the entire democrat party.
 

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I agree, but there are strong parallels in why the left was fatally dismissive of Trump as the GOP is dismissive of AOC. Again she is the only democrat introspecting and so as a result she will be blessed. If she keeps pushing into repentance she will be blessed more. For now she will become the clear leader of the democrat party, and with this she will have the opportunity to drive the change that they have to make if they want to really survive as a political party. We will see, there is much time and with that opportunity for her to do well or not so well, we will just have to see. We're going into a very interesting era.
Donald Trump is unique in history. He is not a model for others to imitate. AOC was cowering in the bathroom crying about protestors a half mile away. She is not Donald Trump having been shot by an assassin and saying "fight, fight, fight". Trump supporters were called deplorables and garbage and shrugged it off, pulled up their sleeves and went to work. AOC's fanbase is girls watching her videos on how to apply makeup.

In my mind if you eliminate all election fraud and all machines you will see virtually every blue county turn red or at the least purple.

Without election fraud and without Soros and Gates money the Democrats will have no choice at all. They must completely overhaul the platform and they can't do that (the hyenas would not agree), so I don't believe there is any coming back from this. Instead it reminds me of Goodfellows where the Mafia takes over the Italian restaurant and when they are broke burns the place down for the insurance.
 

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Calling people racist for wanting a secure order, pretending to champion women's rights while supporting people who force women to wear a hijab
Probably played a role for some, especially Jews. But the threat of WW3 had to be a big factor on the minds of anyone old enough to be drafted.

Not being able to pay your bills would have been a factor to anyone in that situation.

Also, I heard that among women under 35 seeing him during the assassination attempt had an impact.
 

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Donald Trump is unique in history. He is not a model for others to imitate. AOC was cowering in the bathroom crying about protestors a half mile away. She is not Donald Trump having been shot by an assassin and saying "fight, fight, fight". Trump supporters were called deplorables and garbage and shrugged it off, pulled up their sleeves and went to work. AOC's fanbase is girls watching her videos on how to apply makeup.

In my mind if you eliminate all election fraud and all machines you will see virtually every blue county turn red or at the least purple.

Without election fraud and without Soros and Gates money the Democrats will have no choice at all. They must completely overhaul the platform and they can't do that (the hyenas would not agree), so I don't believe there is any coming back from this. Instead it reminds me of Goodfellows where the Mafia takes over the Italian restaurant and when they are broke burns the place down for the insurance.
Lol it seems some wouldn't mind being at Jan 6th and getting #MeToo'd by AOC if for no other reason than to officially know that they were AOC's own little kinky fantasy. Whoever got closest to the door is her favorite rightwing Chad lol.
 

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AOC's rise from the gutter into politics has curiously been in step with Trump's. Both despite her pageantry as well as in many cases directly because of her high energy efforts throughout this last decade have marked her out, indeed she is one to not overlook. Be as a foolish as the democrats that dismissed Trump to dismiss AOC. She has not repented fully of course, and how far she will go is to be seen, Still again look how the rest of the left be either melting down or just trying to play Satan's poison the well against Trump game in bitterness at their crushing defeat. She is the only one emerging as a real leader, the only one actually self-reflecting on this and learning and focusing higher tier things. Besides a potential future presidential candidate I believe she should wrest the gavel from that old witch Nancy Pelosi and put her away at last as Nancy's hand was heavy in failing the election for the entire democrat party.
Nancy already passed on the torch. It wasn't to her. And she's still a psycho new green dealer. She's too radical for national office.
 

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In my mind if you eliminate all election fraud and all machines you will see virtually every blue county turn red or at the least purple.
I could get on board with that...

:giggle:
 

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GOP keeps controls the House. Just been confirmed.
 

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Nancy already passed on the torch. It wasn't to her. And she's still a psycho new green dealer. She's too radical for national office.
This is true, but at the same time that's kind of the point, her radical faction is the one best poised to reform the democrat party, she is the one as of right now looking like the only leader they have left and that is actually learning from this instead of just going hilarious deranged. Mindful they've been not just defeated but blown out and currently still melting down.
 

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Lol it seems some wouldn't mind being at Jan 6th and getting #MeToo'd by AOC if for no other reason than to officially know that they were AOC's own little kinky fantasy. Whoever got closest to the door is her favorite rightwing Chad lol.
I have no idea what that means. But the reason that Trump won was not just because of Trump, though he was the major reason, but it was because of Steve Bannon. You can list a number of others but they all see Steve Bannon as the field marshall of the campaign to get Trump elected. Do you realize that 100% of the poll worker positions and poll watcher positions for Republicans were filled, when just the election before it was 20%. They had a prevailing get out the vote campaign as well. They had a prevailing campus ministry to turn the hearts and minds of college students. You have a powerful response to the propaganda mill -- Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Dinesh Dsouza, Benny, Redacted, and of course the War Room that Bannon runs. They were no nonsense, and focused like a laser for the last four years. They also created all the tools they need to overwhelm the phone lines and email of representatives and senators.

Does AOC have any of that?
 

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I have no idea what that means. But the reason that Trump won was not just because of Trump, though he was the major reason, but it was because of Steve Bannon. You can list a number of others but they all see Steve Bannon as the field marshall of the campaign to get Trump elected. Do you realize that 100% of the poll worker positions and poll watcher positions for Republicans were filled, when just the election before it was 20%. They had a prevailing get out the vote campaign as well. They had a prevailing campus ministry to turn the hearts and minds of college students. You have a powerful response to the propaganda mill -- Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Dinesh Dsouza, Benny, Redacted, and of course the War Room that Bannon runs. They were no nonsense, and focused like a laser for the last four years. They also created all the tools they need to overwhelm the phone lines and email of representatives and senators.

Does AOC have any of that?
Little jest at AOC, the board's Jan 6th participants who are all officially Chads that AOC fantasized and simped for, and a little sideways rebuke to our jacko's simping for AOC just because of her looks, guess he should've been at J6 instead of post#548 lol.