Tonight's Presidential Debate

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ThereRoseaLamb

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No one has ever been forced to have an abortion. Now big government is deciding your medical decisions,


You're stuck on repeat. How do we fix that? We're talking about the murder of innocent babies. Either you have something to say on the subject, spit it out, or don't. You repeat this comment I hope no one answers and ignores you.
 

Magenta

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I cannot understand after seeing pictures of babies limbs torn to pieces and doctors who had performed abortions testifying before Congress on how the baby reacted to pain and how they realized they was taking a life and stopped performing abortions, how any person, let alone a person with some belief in A God and a moral order can state abortion is not murder?

I really do not get it.
They treat the baby as a parasite, and pretend it is not a human life.
 

Magenta

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No one has ever been forced to have an abortion. Now big government is deciding your medical decisions,
Are you unaware of China's one-child policy? Many underwent forced abortions and sterilization (as a means of population control).

Only eight years into the implementation of the one-child policy, nearly 17 percent
of all married Chinese women had fallen victim to at least one forced abortion.
 

Magenta

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I need more information, what was the father?
In looking further into this just now, I saw that 64,000+ pregnancies were the result of rape in the 14 states where abortion is
banned since the overturn of RvsW in June of 2022. Why are young men perpetrating such heinous offenses against women?
 

ZNP

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In looking further into this just now, I saw that 64,000+ pregnancies were the result of rape in the 14 states where abortion is
banned since the overturn of RvsW in June of 2022. Why are young men perpetrating such heinous offenses against women?
Accused of rape or convicted of rape? Also are we talking statutory rape or was there physical assault?
 

Magenta

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Accused of rape or convicted of rape? Also are we talking statutory rape or was there physical assault?
I do not know the conviction rate, or anything pertinent to legal/court action.

Um, physical assault? How else does pregnancy occur in rape cases?
 

ZNP

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I do not know the conviction rate, or anything pertinent to legal/court action.

Um, physical assault? How else does pregnancy occur in rape cases?
If a 17 year old girl is dating an 18 year old man that is called statutory rape in Arizona. Each state has different laws
 

Magenta

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If a 17 year old girl is dating an 18 year old man that is called statutory rape in Arizona. Each state has different laws
I see. Well, rape is rape and the law is the law. Aso, ignorance of the
law is no excuse. Although apparently not all judges got that memo.
 

ZNP

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I see. Well, rape is rape and the law is the law. Aso, ignorance of the
law is no excuse. Although apparently not all judges got that memo.
the point is not all rape is an assault
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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They treat the baby as a parasite, and pretend it is not a human life.
I have answers set to go whenever I talk online. I actually had to find an article titled "Ten Reasons a Fetus is Not a Parasite". That's how dim these people are that you're talking to. smh
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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the point is not all rape is an assault
Huh? I don't argue about abortion from a rape POV. It's rare and you're walking into the liberal narrative that every abortion is from rape of a homeless mother with a medical condition and it was incest. Don't bother majoring on a minor issue.
 

PennEd

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If a 17 year old girl is dating an 18 year old man that is called statutory rape in Arizona. Each state has different laws
This didn’t look right to me. So I looked it up.

Here is the Arizona law:

In the state of Arizona, it is illegal for anyone over the age of 18 to engage in a sexual act with someone under the age of 15.
 

Magenta

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then why are some a misdemeanor?
Good question. Rape culture. I have seen documentaries detailing these things. Boys are let off for incredibly
bad criminal behavior because to convict them would ruin their reputation and chance of a good future. Pshhhh.
 

ZNP

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This didn’t look right to me. So I looked it up.

Here is the Arizona law:

In the state of Arizona, it is illegal for anyone over the age of 18 to engage in a sexual act with someone under the age of 15.
I looked it up to and it said this was a misdemeanor. My search was for statutory rape.
 

ZNP

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Good question. Rape culture. I have seen documentaries detailing these things. Boys are let off for incredibly
bad criminal behavior because to convict them would ruin their reputation and chance of a good future. Pshhhh.
I am pretty sure when it comes to sex women are let off with criminal behavior just as much as men. Obviously I don't know the numbers, but I think the Bible is very fair on this matter. The Bible requires the woman to scream rape, otherwise both the man and woman are held accountable. If the rape is in a very remote location it is assumed no one heard her, but regardless the location if she doesn't scream she is held accountable.