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A covenant is an agreement, God made individual covenants before He made a national covenant with Israel. Why the one with Israel was so unique. But it doesn't change the fact God's laws started before when the agreements were made. You see this clearly in Exo 16 prior to God writing the Ten Commandments

Exo 16: 26 Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will be none.”
27 Now it happened that some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather, but they found none. 28 And the Lord said to Moses, “How long do you refuse to keep My commandments and My laws?

So God's commandments started prior to the covenant being given. And not Whose commandments are they according to God?

Just as God said right in the Ten Commandments

Exo 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

I know of not two Creations so obvious God is speaking of the Creation.

Where there is no law there is no sin. Rom4:15

There was sin in the world sadly from the garden, therefore God's law existed.

When it was sin for Cain to kill Abel, we see that law only in the Ten Commandments, the one god revealed when it started.

Why the Ten Commandments is God's Testimony Exo31:18 not mans and is also in His heavenly Temple under His mercy seat Exo25:21 Rev 11:19 Rev15:5

What I was saying is it’s called the law of moses because moses was the mediator and intercessor between the children of Israel abrams descendants and God . It’s everything God commanded Moses to tell the people and write down in the book of the law.

This covenant and these words and those people who agreed to the covenant words of Moses

“And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient.

And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭24:7-8‬ ‭

everything mediated by Moses is known as the law of Moses and it’s the children of Israel’s law in the Old Testament. It had Moses word , animal blood which Moses shed for the people .

“Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood. For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:18-20‬ ‭

that’s all part of the old testament the word the blood the people the mediator and intercessor we have a better testament mediated by Jesus and our for with his blood and counting in his promises .

moses law isn’t part of the New Testament the words of Christ are the New Testament.



“For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭7:18-

That law given from Sinai and at horeb isn’t our law. It was the old covenant law and was. Broken by the people it was given to and anew one was made through Jesus Christ. With israel and also the rest of creation we just need to learn from Jesus and trust his word on everything that’s our lawgiver in person
 
What I was saying is it’s called the law of moses because moses was the mediator and intercessor between the children of Israel abrams descendants and God . It’s everything God commanded Moses to tell the people and write down in the book of the law.
This covenant and these words and those people who agreed to the covenant words of Moses

“And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient.

And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭24:7-8‬ ‭

everything mediated by Moses is known as the law of Moses and it’s the children of Israel’s law in the Old Testament. It had Moses word , animal blood which Moses shed for the people .



Yes, the law of Moses was the book of the law that was placed beside the ark of the covenant written by Moses, not God, inside the ark of the covenant held God's Law, the Ten Commandments, written by God, spoken by God, His Testimony Exo31:18

Deut 31:24 When Moses had finished writing the words of this law in a book to the very end, 25 Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord, 26 “Take this Book of the Law and put it by the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against you.


I find it perplexing that so many people relate the Ten Commandments as the law of Moses when the Law itself has nothing to do with Moses, but has everything to do with our relationship with God. God’s name (not Moses) is in each one of these commandments and He takes ownership of them not just in the words itself, but He did not leave His holy and eternal Law to be written by man, God divinely wrote them Himself, not just once but twice. He wrote them in stone for its eternal nature and then He writes His laws in our heart 2Cor3:3 Heb 8:10 The first 4 commandments show how to love God and the last 6 how we love our neighbor. They cover so much more than people realize Psa 119:96 just as Jesus taught from this same unit Mat 5:19-30

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying:
2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of [a]bondage.
3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor [b]serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting[c] the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

I personally do not see how Scripture could be clearer about whose Law is the Ten Commandments and Moses the creation and servant of God, is not God the Creator of everything Exo 20:11. Moses own testimony said the Ten Commandments is God’s work not his, so why do so many insist it’s the law of Moses so we no longer need to keep them when there is not one Scripture in context that says this.

Deu 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

Deu 5:22 "These words the LORD spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.

Exo 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

Exo 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.


The law of Moses is a separate agreement

Deu 29:1 These are the words of the covenant which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, besides the covenant which He made with them in Horeb.



“For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭7:18-


Lets look at this in context which law its referring to.

Heb 7:11 Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? 12 For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well. 13 For the one of whom these things are spoken belonged to another tribe, from which no one has ever served at the altar. 14 For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, and in connection with that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.
15 This becomes even more evident when another priest arises in the likeness of Melchizedek, 16 who has become a priest, not on the basis of a legal requirement concerning bodily descent, but by the power of an indestructible life. 17 For it is witnessed of him,

“You are a priest forever,
after the order of Melchizedek.”
18 For on the one hand, a former commandment (Priesthood) is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness 19 (for the law made nothing perfect); but on the other hand, a better hope is introduced, through which we draw near to God.

20 And it was not without an oath. For those who formerly became priests were made such without an oath, 21 but this one was made a priest with an oath by the one who said to him:

“The Lord has sworn
and will not change his mind,
‘You are a priest forever.’”
22 This makes Jesus the guarantor of a better covenant.

23 The former priests were many in number, because they were prevented by death from continuing in office, 24 but he holds his priesthood permanently, because he continues forever. 25 Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost[b] those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.

26 For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens. 27 He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since he did this once for all when he offered up himself. 28 For the law appoints men in their weakness as high priests, but the word of the oath, which came later than the law, appoints a Son who has been made perfect forever.

What was predicted would end when Jesus came?


Dan 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate."

What was predicted would not end, not a jot or tittle, God's commandments Mat5:18-19 Psa89:34 Rev22:14-15 why we see them in heaven in His temple revealed at the last trumpet before He comes as it will be His standard of Judgement Rev 11:18-19 Rev15:5KJV James2:11-12 John 12:48
 
That's what our Bible is for. Most people have a Bible so we will have no excuse. People who do not have access to the Word of God I am sure He will judge righteousness

No people before 100 A.D. had a Bible!

But yes, that God will judge those who had no Bible righteously was my point,
and verses such as Romans 1:20 and 2:11-16 indicate the basis of His judgement will be general revelation
via creation and logic/conscience, which Paul called a sort of gospel in a few places (Col. 1:23, Rom. 10:13-18, Gal. 3:8).
 
No people before 100 A.D. had a Bible!

But yes, that God will judge those who had no Bible righteously was my point,
and verses such as Romans 1:20 and 2:11-16 indicate the basis of His judgement will be general revelation
via creation and logic/conscience, which Paul called a sort of gospel in a few places (Col. 1:23, Rom. 10:13-18, Gal. 3:8).
Sure they did, why we see It is written (quotes from the OT) all throughout the NT.

Its also why the apostles were setting up churches to get the Word of God out there. Acts 15:21 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 just as Jesus predicted Isa 56:6-7
 
Sure they did, why we see It is written (quotes from the OT) all throughout the NT.

Its also why the apostles were setting up churches to get the Word of God out there. Acts 15:21 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 just as Jesus predicted Isa 56:6-7

Are you kidding?! Do you not realize that most people in the world knew nothing of the OT which was not written until about 1,000 B.C. and many still might not?!
 
Yes, the law of Moses was the book of the law that was placed beside the ark of the covenant written by Moses, not God, inside the ark of the covenant held God's Law, the Ten Commandments, written by God, spoken by God, His Testimony Exo31:18

Deut 31:24 When Moses had finished writing the words of this law in a book to the very end, 25 Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord, 26 “Take this Book of the Law and put it by the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against you.


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@Yes, the law of Moses was the book of the law that was placed beside the ark of the covenant written by Moses, not God, inside the ark of the covenant held God's Law, the Ten Commandments, written by God, spoken by God, His Testimony Exo31:18

Deut 31:24 When Moses had finished writing the words of this law in a book to the very end, 25 Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord, 26 “Take this Book of the Law and put it by the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against you.”

correct inside the ark was placed the two stone tablets that God spoke to the children of Israel from Mount Sinai . And beside it was placed all of Moses mediations and judgements , as a witness against the people the commandments were spoken to. All you said there is agreeable and accurate . And yes this was the covenant law God gave them for thier covenant which Moses regulated and mediated .

just before Moses was to die because he sinned when he didn’t sanctify the lord before the people God tells him what’s going to happen with the covenant he made with them

“And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭31:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Later on we see it come to pass that they broke the covenant he made with them when he led them out of Egypt and he eas going to make a new covenant not according to the one he made from Sinai

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭31:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The covenant god made with them from Sinai what he spoke and also what he told Moses to speak to them was broken it’s filled with conditions “ if you obey the law or if you don’t obey the law and break my covenant “ they broke the covenant that’s why all the wrath and pain has come upon the Israelite people at this point in scripture why Babylon destroyed Jerusalem and took them captive part of the curse for breaking rhier covenant from Sinai

we don’t need to be told “ don’t kill “ we’re told how to be born of Gods spirit as his children and taught to treat others with love and respect . Jesus doesn’t teach us to kill he doesn’t even teach us to retaliate with violence . We just need to accept Christ and the gospel

The law is about the knowledge of sin and leaving mankind with no excuse

“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Thou shalt not kill “ thou shalt not steal “ thou shalt not bear false witness “ thou shalt not commit adultery “ ……. That’s telling sinners what not to do . Jesus teachers sinners to repent and teaches them What to do. We want the righteousness without the law that’s witnessed in the law and prophets

“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The gospel is where we’ll find Gods ways and teachings for his children the law is t made for the righteous but killers and idolaters and unholy people who do unholy things liars and thieves it’s why it says “ don’t lie don’t steal don’t cheat don’t kill “ it’s for that group of people

“knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭1:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

christians arent lawless we have Jesus word in the gospel to lead us and teach us righteousness in truth . We don’t need rocks we have a living spirit in us
 
@Yes, the law of Moses was the book of the law that was placed beside the ark of the covenant written by Moses, not God, inside the ark of the covenant held God's Law, the Ten Commandments, written by God, spoken by God, His Testimony Exo31:18

Deut 31:24 When Moses had finished writing the words of this law in a book to the very end, 25 Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord, 26 “Take this Book of the Law and put it by the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against you.”

correct inside the ark was placed the two stone tablets that God spoke to the children of Israel from Mount Sinai . And beside it was placed all of Moses mediations and judgements , as a witness against the people the commandments were spoken to. All you said there is agreeable and accurate . And yes this was the covenant law God gave them for thier covenant which Moses regulated and mediated .

just before Moses was to die because he sinned when he didn’t sanctify the lord before the people God tells him what’s going to happen with the covenant he made with them

“And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭31:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Later on we see it come to pass that they broke the covenant he made with them when he led them out of Egypt and he eas going to make a new covenant not according to the one he made from Sinai

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭31:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The covenant god made with them from Sinai what he spoke and also what he told Moses to speak to them was broken it’s filled with conditions “ if you obey the law or if you don’t obey the law and break my covenant “ they broke the covenant that’s why all the wrath and pain has come upon the Israelite people at this point in scripture why Babylon destroyed Jerusalem and took them captive part of the curse for breaking rhier covenant from Sinai

we don’t need to be told “ don’t kill “ we’re told how to be born of Gods spirit as his children and taught to treat others with love and respect . Jesus doesn’t teach us to kill he doesn’t even teach us to retaliate with violence . We just need to accept Christ and the gospel

The law is about the knowledge of sin and leaving mankind with no excuse

“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Thou shalt not kill “ thou shalt not steal “ thou shalt not bear false witness “ thou shalt not commit adultery “ ……. That’s telling sinners what not to do . Jesus teachers sinners to repent and teaches them What to do. We want the righteousness without the law that’s witnessed in the law and prophets

“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The gospel is where we’ll find Gods ways and teachings for his children the law is t made for the righteous but killers and idolaters and unholy people who do unholy things liars and thieves it’s why it says “ don’t lie don’t steal don’t cheat don’t kill “ it’s for that group of people

“knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭1:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

christians arent lawless we have Jesus word in the gospel to lead us and teach us righteousness in truth . We don’t need rocks we have a living spirit in us
We went through this before- a covenant, means an agreement. The agreement was not he same because the new agreement (new covenant) is established on better promises. The words God promised not to alter Psa 89:34 not a jot or tittle mat5:18 because no one is above the Testimony of God to re-write what God wrote. Exo 31:18 that is under His mercy seat Exo 25:21 where justice and mercy will come together soon. Rev11:18-19 James 2:11-12. Rev22:14-15KJV


Now you are going on to another argument with Paul writings who came after Jesus ratified His covenant. We have to be careful with Pauls writing not to contradict what Jesus taught and lived.

The law is made for sinners- doesn;t the Bible say that all has sinned, so therefore His law is for everyone? The only way we are not sinning is if we are keeping God’s laws 1John3:4 through love and faith and the power of the Holy Spirit John14:15-18 - why it’s called the law of liberty James 2:11-12 because it frees us from the bondage of sin. If everyone was keeping the Ten Commandments the way Jesus taught Mat5:19-30 there would be no more sin in the world. Everyone only worshipping God, no one having anger in their hearts that leads to murder. Just peace and harmony the way God always planned it Isa 48:18
 
Are you kidding?! Do you not realize that most people in the world knew nothing of the OT which was not written until about 1,000 B.C. and many still might not?!
That’s something different than your previous claim that the Scriptures were not available before 100AD.

However the gospel is being spread throughout the world. We are not going to be judged based on if others have a Bible or not, we will all have to stand before Jesus based on what we do. 2 Cor5:10 We all have access to the Bible’s and more people have it than ever before and will continue until the end comes.

It still doesn’t change what the New Covenant is about and what God wrote in His New Covenant Heb8:10
 
That’s something different than your previous claim that the Scriptures were not available before 100AD.

However the gospel is being spread throughout the world. We are not going to be judged based on if others have a Bible or not, we will all have to stand before Jesus based on what we do. 2 Cor5:10 We all have access to the Bible’s and more people have it than ever before and will continue until the end comes.

It still doesn’t change what the New Covenant is about and what God wrote in His New Covenant Heb8:10

Not at all different. The OT was not written until about 1000 B.C. and the NT not until about 100 A.D.,
and most people did not have access to both Scriptures until the invention of the printing press about 1500 A.D.
Yes, the Gospel is now being spread throughout the world, and Paul indicated it was spread before Christ
(in Col. 1:23. Rom. 10:13-18, Gal. 3:8), which would have had to be in a primitive way via general revelation:
creation and conscience. Understanding this truth puts the NC in perspective, but I love GW revealed in every way!
 
Not at all different. The OT was not written until about 1000 B.C. and the NT not until about 100 A.D.,
and most people did not have access to both Scriptures until the invention of the printing press about 1500 A.D.
Yes, the Gospel is now being spread throughout the world, and Paul indicated it was spread before Christ
(in Col. 1:23. Rom. 10:13-18, Gal. 3:8), which would have had to be in a primitive way via general revelation:
creation and conscience. Understanding this truth puts the NC in perspective, but I love GW revealed in every way!

I think I am going to stick with what the Bible says


It is written = Scripture. Plus...

John 5:39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

Acts 17:11 These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

Acts 15:21 21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”

Acts 17:2 Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures,

God is good and has always been good.

God will judge people based on the light they have, thankfully, we have the entire Bible and there will be no excuse why we didn't respond to what God placed in our hearts Heb8:10 2Cor3:3

I am okay agreeing to disagree. Everything will get sorted out soon enough,

Be well.
 
Meant to add...

2 Tim 3:15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [c]instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified
 
I think I am going to stick with what the Bible says
It is written = Scripture. Plus...
John 5:39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
Acts 17:11 These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.
Acts 15:21 21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”
Acts 17:2 Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures,

God is good and has always been good.
God will judge people based on the light they have, thankfully, we have the entire Bible and there will be no excuse why we didn't respond to what God placed in our hearts Heb8:10 2Cor3:3

I am okay agreeing to disagree. Everything will get sorted out soon enough,
Be well.

Meant to add...

2 Tim 3:15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [c]instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified

We should stick with what God says, and what God reveals in various ways will harmonize as one truth,
including that salvation is attained via faith in God/Christ as revealed in every generation, including those
dependent on general revelation. I love all of the verses you cited, although Romans 2:12 requires some
harmonization for it to jibe.

Yes, I was raised by Christian parents and have had access to the entire Bible all my life,
so I would have no excuse for not being a Christian other than that the Baptist preachers
did not educate their congregations much beyond the basic Gospel, so I had to fill in many gaps.

Yes, although I believe it is wrong for Christians to disagree regarding the basic Gospel,
I am okay with agreeing to disagree regarding secondary or additional doctrines,
and I have made many bets with tulipists and Actsists that their beliefs will be sorted out in heaven.
LIC, GWH :love:
 
What ouch is really doing is pointing out scripture.

Image the foke in Matthew working for JESUS maybe their whole like casting out demons, healing people and HIM telling them I NEVER KNEW YOU.

What were they missing if JESUS NEVER KNEW THEM?

How about comparing Matthew 7:21-23 to Acts 10.

Acts 10, they believed.
Matthew 7, they believed.

Acts 10, they were filled with the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 7, they were filled with the Holy Ghost.

Acts 10, they were baptized in JESUS name.
Matthew 7, No record of them being baptized in JESUS name.

Need all three to be reborn.