the Sabbath
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Q: If they are a part of the Old or / and Mosaic Law, they would NOT be listed one by one in the NT. I mean if they are done away with why are they there?
Q: If the Sabbath has been abolished or change then WHY are there 60 references to keeping the sabbath in the NT? The same question if it has been done away with why is it in and observed in the NT?
You keep making anachronistic arguments. They are fallacious and invalid.
Make your case from the text of Exodus.
All of the Commandments are being validated in the NT every one of the is there, and The Sabbath is referred to and observed 6O times in the NT actually does support my assertion or they wouldn't be in the NT if they were done away with as part of the old Mosaic Law.
What is the purpose of the being commanded and observed in the NT? If they are of the Old laws they shouldn't be in th NT.
Where I'd only have to observe the 7th day as a sabbath in the law of Moses, the sabbath is written on my heart under the law of Christ and so then, I remain in a state of perpetual rest. There's no way that I could 'forget' the sabbath, or 'day of rest', as the Psalms advice, "Today, if you hear my voice, and do not harden your hearts...as with that generation...whose hearts go astray, and they have not known My ways. So I swore in My anger, "They shall never enter My rest."
Hebrews 4:7 tells us "God again designated a certain day as "Today," when a long time later He spoke through David as was just stated: "Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts."
So, why would you harden your heart, Today, against His 'day of rest'? and put it off for another day? Don't you hear His voice?
Hebrews 4:7 tells us "God again designated a certain day as "Today," when a long time later He spoke through David as was just stated: "Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts."
So, why would you harden your heart, Today, against His 'day of rest'? and put it off for another day? Don't you hear His voice?
It is really simple, just explain the existence of the Ten Commandments and the Sabbath in the NT?
Thats it, just answer that one question with scripture to back up you opinion.
God knows the heart and mind, when it is at work and when it is at rest. He declared the Israelites were disobedient even in (seventh day) Sabbath keeping and swore they would not enter His rest, excluding Caleb and Joshua, and the young ones, who I suppose must've possessed a childlike trust, I mean, they were dependent and likely were well aware of it. That is, they didn't procure God anger through unbelief.
We worship and revere God every day of the week, even the first day of the week, all throughout the Bible people meet all different days of the week to break bread to fellowship and even preach the gospel. But that in no way changed the one-day God set apart from the rest. God blessed, sanctified and hallowed only one day and that day was the 7th day of the week. The did not have organized Sunday worship as we do today, the observed the Sabbath as God commanded. There are 60 references to the Sabbath being observed in the NT.
If the Sabbath was done away with as part of the old mosaic law the why is it commanded and observed in the NT? better yet if it has been done away with why is it in the NT at all?
Blessings Danny
The law was fulfilled in Christ, so when we are in Christ, we fulfill the law, and it is fulfilled in us. We can rest now with Him. I think our definition diverges in that your view posits that only the seventh day can be the sabbath. But if Jesus is Lord of the sabbath, then who can limit which day can determine as the sabbath?
How come you keep avoiding the questions?
Do you know the Bible?
It is really simple, just explain the existence of the Ten Commandments and the Sabbath in the NT?
Thats it, just answer that one question with scripture to back up you opinion.
I'll help you, go to BibbleTools.org and look up the Sabbath, look up the Ten Commandments and anything else you may have questions to. It is a Christian site.
Blessings Danny
Hey, Soyeong...
To my understanding:
The law of the Spirit of life has made me free from the law of sin and death.
The first testament is the law of sin and death because transgression of the commandments bring the curse of death. The first testament is superseded by the New Testament because no one from the tribe of Judah can be a High Priest under the OT law. Sin and the curse of death is now removed by faith in the blood of Jesus unto salvation.
This doesn't mean an end of the commandments of God, but like the office of the High Priest, they've been changed. No longer does the Lord's commandments deal with just our outward acts, but now they are being applied by Spirit illuminated scriptures to deal with our inward motive too. This can be seen in NT scripture: thou shall not murder is changed to if you hate your brother, you are a murderer. Thou shalt not commit adultery is changed to if you lust after another, you've committed adultery in your heart. No more is it eye for a eye, tooth for a tooth, and life for a life, but rather we're to turn our check 70 times 7 times. We who are indwelt by the Spirit are being taught a higher standard than that contained in the law as revealed by Jesus our eternal High Priest's example.
Once I attain to spiritual maturity, I become able to walk after the Spirit and deny the lusts of the flesh. An indicator of this actually occurring is a joy unspeakable and full of glory attitude. This is accomplished by the Holy Spirit who speaks not of his own, but by making the scripture we read and study to be Jesus speaking to us, Spirit to spirit; who fulfils the promise of the new testament by using scripture to write the Lord's commandments into our hearts and minds; and by using scripture to increase the faith that was authored by Jesus when we were born again.
Once we're born of the Spirit, we become holy with the Lord's own holiness by the Holy Spirit's presence and like Jesus, we can do good works on the sabbath and on every other day of the week, we can worship the Lord in Spirit and in truth on the sabbath and on every other day of the week. By the Spirit's indwelling, a greater than the sabbath is here. Even so, the sabbath will always be on the seventh day of the week and holy unto the Lord; but now, in Christ, every day of the week is also holy unto the Lord.
Only the 7th Day is the Sabbath. I haven't been able to find one verse stating or claiming another day has been declared the Sabbath by God. God only blessed, sanctified and hallowed one day, the 7th day, not the first or any other. God worked on the first day of the week and rested on the 7th day. His Commandment say to "Remember the Sabbath and keep it holly" No where in scripture does it say choose a day or give us permission to change Gods Laws. (We are actually warned about that) The 7th day is a day of rest and observance, not Sunday. think about it, when the end time comes, we are told there will be a one world Government, a one world currency and a one world religion (what day of the week do you think that will be?) It will be a mandatory Sunday observance, it will seek to abolish the Sabbath.
Go to BibleTools.org and look up the Sabbath
Blessings, Danny
2 Kings 21:8 Neither will I make the feet of Israel move any more out of the land which I gave their fathers; only if they will observe to do according to all that I have commanded them and according to all the law that my servant Moses commanded them.
Deuteronomy 4:13, 14 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it.
Dan 9:11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.
Once more we see “thy law” and “the law of Moses,” and this time the two are recognized as different in content. There are no curses recorded in the Ten Commandments that God wrote, but the law which Moses wrote contained an abundance of such curses and judgments.
The major point of difference between the law of God and the law of Moses, though, lies in the way they were recorded and preserved. We have already cited Moses’ statement that God “wrote them (the Ten Commandments) upon two tables of stone” (Deuteronomy 4:13). Compare that with Exodus 31:18, “two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.”
No one can confuse this writing with the way the mosaic law was produced. “And Moses wrote this law ... And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying, Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee” (Deuteronomy 31:9, 24-26). This book of statutes and judgments which Moses wrote in a book was placed in a pocket on the side of the ark. In contrast, the law written by God on tables of stone was placed inside the ark of the covenant. “And thou shalt put into the ark the testimony which I shall give thee” (Exodus 25:16).
We can note several distinctions in the two laws. They had different authors(writers), were written on different material, were placed in different locations, and had totally different content.
Deuteronomy 4:13, 14 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it.
Dan 9:11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.
Once more we see “thy law” and “the law of Moses,” and this time the two are recognized as different in content. There are no curses recorded in the Ten Commandments that God wrote, but the law which Moses wrote contained an abundance of such curses and judgments.
The major point of difference between the law of God and the law of Moses, though, lies in the way they were recorded and preserved. We have already cited Moses’ statement that God “wrote them (the Ten Commandments) upon two tables of stone” (Deuteronomy 4:13). Compare that with Exodus 31:18, “two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.”
No one can confuse this writing with the way the mosaic law was produced. “And Moses wrote this law ... And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying, Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee” (Deuteronomy 31:9, 24-26). This book of statutes and judgments which Moses wrote in a book was placed in a pocket on the side of the ark. In contrast, the law written by God on tables of stone was placed inside the ark of the covenant. “And thou shalt put into the ark the testimony which I shall give thee” (Exodus 25:16).
We can note several distinctions in the two laws. They had different authors(writers), were written on different material, were placed in different locations, and had totally different content.
Christ's law supersedes the law of Moses in that not only does it command not to murder another but that one is to love even their enemies, so it seems reasonable to me that not only should one rest on the seventh day, and trust God for His provision, but every day.
And I'm sure if I looked up the Sabbath, I am certain that EHG White and her teaching will be among that which is retrieved. Going by the pictures provided. I judged her countenance to be a bit, I don't know, off, or rather 'put on'. She struck me as a bit of a poser, a who's who among posers of course, but a poser, nonetheless.
How come you keep avoiding responsibility? Do you know the Bible?
It's really simple: just demonstrate from within Exodus that the ten commandments are not part of the Law of Moses. That's it; just answer the one challenge with Scripture to back up your opinion.
The next time you want to try a playground tactic with me, know that I will not be so nice.
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