The question no flat-earther can answer

[Rosemaryx]

That one's easy; it's a matter of perspective. Your eyes can perceive angular distance, but not absolute distance. You are seeing the sun and moon from one point of a triangle; they are the other two. Anything along the side of that triangle, regardless of absolute distance from you, will appear to be the same angular distance apart from anything along the other side of the triangle, regardless of absolute distance.

But they are at the same level , not one higher or lower than the other...
I still don`t understand , so I won`t go any further because I don`t know lol...
...xox...

 

[Nehemiah6]

then . . . distances in the southern Hemisphere are much greater between lines of latitude than distances between the same lines of latitude north of the equator.

If the earth is flat, there can be no "southern hemisphere". On a disc, everything is on the same plane. "Hemisphere" means a partial spherical globe.

 

[Dino246]

But they are at the same level , not one higher or lower than the other...
I still don`t understand , so I won`t go any further because I don`t know lol...
...xox...

I'd have to demonstrate in three dimensions, or at least two with the ability to see from the third.

 

[tourist]

If the earth is flat, there can be no "southern hemisphere". On a disc, everything is on the same plane. "Hemisphere" means a partial spherical globe.

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That looks like a frisbee from the Wham-o Corporation.

 

[Chester]

If the earth is flat, there can be no "southern hemisphere". On a disc, everything is on the same plane. "Hemisphere" means a partial spherical globe.

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Ha! Of course you are right. So in the flat earth model, what is the southern hemisphere in the round earth model would be the outside half of the disc! (Not actually the outside half by area, but by length of radius!)

 

[Nehemiah6]

Ha! Of course you are right. So in the flat earth model, what is the southern hemisphere in the round earth model would be the outside half of the disc! (Not actually the outside half by area, but by length of radius!)

Yes. But if the sun is shining over THE WHOLE DISC, there are no hemispheres to discuss! And there would be no day/night cycle either. We would have continuous daylight.

 

[Chester]

Yes. But if the sun is shining over THE WHOLE DISC, there are no hemispheres to discuss! And there would be no day/night cycle either. We would have continuous daylight.

Ah, I thought for a minute you might be a flat-earther, but you obviously are not -- no flat-earther would say the sun shines over the whole disc. By flat-earth teaching, the sun is only like 90 or several hundred miles high and so shines only on about half of the disc at a time! (

 

[GaryA]

The distance to which sunlight can be seen is limited by the atmosphere.

 

[GaryA]

The distance to which sunlight can be seen is limited by the atmosphere.

A good example to illustrate this idea is when fog "rolls in" and visibility drops to less than one mile. And, the sun is dim or not seen at all in the sky - covered over by the dense fog.

The moisture in the atmosphere becomes dense enough to "block" the sun - partially or completely.

Ever seen a really dark sky in the middle of the day because of the really heavy cloud cover? When the sun cannot be seen at all? When it is just almost as dark as night?

Moisture (and other things like smog, but mostly moisture) in the atmosphere can partially or completely dim/block the sun.

As the sun moves farther away, more of the atmosphere comes between you and the sun. Eventually, the sky dims and goes dark because the light of the sun can no longer reach you - because of the moisture (and other things) in the atmosphere.

 

[Dino246]

A good example to illustrate this idea is when fog "rolls in" and visibility drops to less than one mile. And, the sun is dim or not seen at all in the sky - covered over by the dense fog.

The moisture in the atmosphere becomes dense enough to "block" the sun - partially or completely.

Ever seen a really dark sky in the middle of the day because of the really heavy cloud cover? When the sun cannot be seen at all? When it is just almost as dark as night?

Moisture (and other things like smog, but mostly moisture) in the atmosphere can partially or completely dim/block the sun.

As the sun moves farther away, more of the atmosphere comes between you and the sun. Eventually, the sky dims and goes dark because the light of the sun can no longer reach you - because of the moisture (and other things) in the atmosphere.

I addressed this previously. Atmosphere, by itself, is very nearly transparent. While there is normally water vapour in the atmosphere, it is also transparent. When there is enough vapour, and there is enough of a temperature differential, fog forms. However, fog is not merely dense atmosphere! Pollution also is not atmosphere either, but an addition to it.

Unless there are clouds, the sun is visible each day until the rotation of the earth causes it to become invisible because it is actually blocked. It doesn't become "dim" and slowly disappear. The disappearance over the horizon is quite rapid.

 

[GaryA]

I addressed this previously. Atmosphere, by itself, is very nearly transparent. While there is normally water vapour in the atmosphere, it is also transparent. When there is enough vapour, and there is enough of a temperature differential, fog forms. However, fog is not merely dense atmosphere! Pollution also is not atmosphere either, but an addition to it.

And, I am addressing it now.

Anything "added to" the atmosphere becomes a part of it. It is not simply an "air bubble" of mixed gases; rather, it is the space occupied by the "air bubble" - and everything in it - including water, factory chemicals, etc.

 

[Dino246]

And, I am addressing it now.

Anything "added to" the atmosphere becomes a part of it. It is not simply an "air bubble" of mixed gases; rather, it is the space occupied by the "air bubble" - and everything in it - including water, factory chemicals, etc.

... which, in sufficient densities, do block the sun, but this still has nothing to do with the absolute disappearance of the sun once it is blocked by the horizon.

The premise simply doesn't hold water... or water vapour.

 

[GaryA]

... which, in sufficient densities, do block the sun, but this still has nothing to do with the absolute disappearance of the sun once it is blocked by the horizon.

Correct - it has nothing to do with the Ball Earth Model -- because, I am explaining the disappearance of the sun according to the Flat Earth Model.

 

[Dino246]

Correct - it has nothing to do with the Ball Earth Model -- because, I am explaining the disappearance of the sun according to the Flat Earth Model.

I know. The problem is that your explanation is inconsistent with real-world observations and is therefore wrong.

 

[GaryA]

I know. The problem is that your explanation is inconsistent with real-world observations and is therefore wrong.

It is not.

 

[Dino246]

It is not.

I see the sun disappear over the horizon quite frequently, when there are no clouds proximal. The phenomena you claim are trumped by those I actually see.

 

[GaryA]

I see the sun disappear over the horizon quite frequently, when there are no clouds proximal. The phenomena you claim are trumped by those I actually see.

You do not understand what you are actually seeing - because, you have been so successfully "trained" (as we all are/were) to believe that what you are seeing is a far-away sun "falling" over-and-beyond the horizon.

I know it is difficult for you to see it as it really is; however, what prevents you from seeing it is more a matter of your [deeply-entrenched] belief in what you have been taught than what your senses actually perceive.

 

[bojack]

You do not understand what you are actually seeing - because, you have been so successfully "trained" (as we all are/were) to believe that what you are seeing is a far-away sun "falling" over-and-beyond the horizon.

I know it is difficult for you to see it as it really is; however, what prevents you from seeing it is more a matter of your [deeply-entrenched] belief in what you have been taught than what your senses actually perceive.

Hi Bro, the flat earthers have some good stuff and its fun to work the puzzles
The Pythagorean theorem 3 angles of a triangle must add up to 180 degrees .. When the moon can be seen in the day time and it is a half moon we're looking at a 90 degree angle, then you can line up the sun's shadow and measure the angle using the 90 degree angle to the moon to get an 87-89 degree angle which means the angles are 90, 88, and whatever to complete the triangle 1 or 2 degrees .. You can get all distances if you only know one distance , but you can get relation which figures to be the sun is I think 370 to 400 times further from earth than the moon is .. How far does flat earth say the moon or sun is from earth ?

 

[Dino246]

You do not understand what you are actually seeing - because, you have been so successfully "trained" (as we all are/were) to believe that what you are seeing is a far-away sun "falling" over-and-beyond the horizon.

I know it is difficult for you to see it as it really is; however, what prevents you from seeing it is more a matter of your [deeply-entrenched] belief in what you have been taught than what your senses actually perceive.

I would encourage you to consider the profound arrogance of your post.

 

[GaryA]

I would encourage you to consider the profound arrogance of your post.

No Dino - it is not arrogance. It is more like "love and concern" for the masses (especially Christian folks) who have been profoundly deceived - and, having no realization of it at all.

The 'glue' that makes the deception "stick" so well is none other than a person's own human pride.

Until a person is willing to accept the fact - not only that they can be so thoroughly deceived - but, that they have been so thoroughly deceived -- they will experience cognitive dissonance and most likely not be able to resolve the conflict.

I am only attempting to get people to "wake up" to the truth about the reality they live in.

I would encourage anyone and everyone to "swallow their pride" and consider the real possibility that they have been deceived by Satan "in a really big way"...


Do you believe the Bible?

How many things can you think of whereby Satan has deceived the whole world?


Revelation 12:

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.


What are they?

(Yes, there is more than one - there are several.)