then the answer is still no
We're on the same team. I agree with you. I sin in the flesh, but in God's eyes, I am sinless because I have His Son's righteousness.
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We're on the same team. I agree with you. I sin in the flesh, but in God's eyes, I am sinless because I have His Son's righteousness.
The ones who are saved have the witness within themselves. And you are not the one to tell others differently.
Do you think you are Elected? Chances are low if you are still a Premill. That view is an excuse to not uphold the Reborn Kingdom Image. THE KINGDOM IS NOW.
The trap comes, in part, in that certain hyper paulines, or greasy grace adherents ,declare that all future sins are forgiven, therefore they "don't worry much" about sin.
That's key, to plan to sin in your future is to not be on The Plan of SALVATION.
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RichMan
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Maybe I live in a vacuum, but I have never meet anyone who believes sin, future or present does not matter. They understand just how terrible it is and try to avoid it. But when they fail , and they understand they will from tie to time . they ask God's forgiveness.
That dynamic relies on the merging of two conjectures.
Nobody knows for sure.
The horror of it is some use that to live a nominal carnal life.
If i reverse the theory from some eternal erroneous dynamic , i can preach it, and subliminally implant a notion that i can be as sinful as i want, because " its all good" .
once saved always saved is going to accompany "i am good to go, carnal and happy"
A dude like that used to come to our mens bible study.
He made me nauseated.
Hyper pauline error.
Sickening
Calvinists work for satan. They tell people to drop their Bibles if they were not Elected yet ...and if they are Elected ...repeated sins are fine.
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SophieT
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well we had plenty of debate about it a few years back
however, it is not really a new concept when you consider the Gnostics who believed you could sin to make a boatload of pagans blush because the flesh was not important
the lie doesn't die apparently...it just gets dressed up in a new suit
Maybe
I think you should look into the 3 stages or brackets of belivers.
Baby....infants...new converts
Adolecents...or immature but learning and going after God
Mature... Been in it a while and got the scars to prove it
But the bible says tgere are others also.
Carnal believers.
Read 1 corinthians.
Saved but their works are burned up.
Pauls attitude was " I have turned such a one over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh so that in the end they may be saved"
That defies directly ,a notion of "0sas"
pittsburghjoe, you would be wise to stop posting gibberish.
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RichMan
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There seems to be a lot of people on this forum that believe they are more holy and righteous that the rest of us and continually tell us about it.
Ok
They are here in the forum.
They DO NOT EVER ask for forgiveness because they say "that is wrong"
They claim all future sins are AUTOMATICALLY forgiven.
They know they can't ask for forgiveness for a repeated sin ...because they know it would be mocking GOD. So they pretend the sin is automatically forgiven.
Galatians 6:7–8
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Wasn't it Finney that would never say "he is saved"?
I think it was him.
He would instead say, "there he goes, to all outward appearances, saved, set free, and born again"
Lol
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RichMan
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Could you give me their names so I can see for myself?
Never mind. Think I will remain in my world.