Only idolatrous and cultic KJV onlyism would attribute salvation of souls to a bible version.
Instead of signing "In his name" sign it "In the name of the KJV, amen" because it's more accurate that way.
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Only idolatrous and cultic KJV onlyism would attribute salvation of souls to a bible version.
Instead of signing "In his name" sign it "In the name of the KJV, amen" because it's more accurate that way.
Post number please? i would very much like to see one post where you have done what you are claiming here? Just one would suffice.
Maybe the reason they are not learning what that double standard is, is because you are not revealing any, just a thought.
So if i ask you to show me the double standard that means to you that i am not wanting to recognize where i have done that thing? Really? i am asking you to show where i have said something that is a double standard, if what you show is a double standard i will first repent to you, then pray to God tonight to forgive of doing that thing. But as of yet, you have not shown me one thing that i have said that is in TRUTH a double standard. You are aware accusing someone of double standard does not make it TRUTH right?
If i have, or am doing a double standard, then please do the Godly thing and reveal to me where i have done this, so that i can repent of it. But if you can't show or reveal that thing, then maybe you are in need to repent for falsely accusing a Brother in the Lord of that thing. So i desire to repent, but i can't repent if you do not show me where i have a double standard.
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DiscipleDave
Originally Posted by DiscipleDave
If God was going to choose a language to make His Word of God to reach the common people of the WORLD, what language would that be?
Now if English Language is the dominating language of the World, Would He not choose the dominating language of the World to make His version of the Word of God? Sure He would that only makes since. So then When God decided to make a version of His Word to last until His Son came back, it was the KJV.
You are aware that in 1611 God would have known that the major language of the world in the future would be English, right?
God chose a form of language that He knew would last until His Son Jesus Christ came back to Earth. He also chose to write it exactly as He did to weed out those who did not have a TRUE desire to understand it.
The KJV was ordained by God, and it will be here until Jesus gets here and Raptures the Church.
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DiscipleDave
Originally Posted by DiscipleDave
And yet that version of the Bible (Other than the KJV) has brought more people to the Lord? That is the reason it is a great OTHER version.
Agreed. No version actually saves a soul. What Saves a soul is the belief that Jesus is the Son of God, and that information can be learned from a pamphlet. Does that pamphlet that brought a person to the Lord Jesus Save that persons soul? NO. Does your version Save a soul? No. Does my version save a soul? No. Does the KJV save a soul? These things are only means to bring a person to the Lord Jesus Christ. Can a persons soul be saved without readying any version, any words at all? Sure they can merely by hearing the Preacher. Does that preacher Save that soul? NO, that preacher is only a means to bring that soul to Salvation. This version that version doesn't matter, when it comes to bringing a person to the LORD Jesus Christ. Now if you want to discuss what is the Word of God, that is a different matter.
Who is telling you these lies? Oh wait, that is sarcasm, i get it now.
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DiscipleDave
"Always in every prayer of mine for you all making request with joy."
"ye all are partakers of my grace"
"For God is my record, how greatly I long after you all in the bowels of Jesus Christ."
"that the things which happened unto me have fallen out rather unto the furtherance of the gospel"
"So that my bonds in Christ are manifest in all the palace"
"knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel"
"yet what I shall choose I wot not"
"Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel"
"to them an evident token of perdition"
These all appear in one chapter. Do you honestly think anyone would continue reading if they had to resort to Strong's several times in a chapter, and even then, not understand the foreign idioms, which are not explained there? I challenge you to find even one child (who was not brought up with the KJV) who could grasp all of that. I challenge you to find one child anywhere who would go to Strong's to look up "bowels" (and not be lost to mirth when they learn its current usage).
I suspect your response will reference the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Save it; if the Holy Spirit can guide a 21st-century reader to the truth through the convolutions of Elizabethan English, He can guide them to truth through a language they already understand.
Correct, now get your act together and speak truth about the KJ version of Scripture. Your former words betray you and paint a differing picture than the above. Why not just say you misspoke? You do it often, 'fess up.
Not happening on my side of the monitor.
Oh wait, that is sarcasm, i get it now.
Sorry, you don't, it wasn't sarcasm.
I will get back to you on that, hopefully this evening, but tomorrow at the latest, God willing.
Post 2064, second paragraph
Post 2091, second comment
Post 2201, entire
I will add that I'm not aware of you having engaged in a double standard recently. Other contributors are guilty of it, and have not acknowledged doing so.
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The language IS archaic, that is NO myth. You are in denial because you adhere to a heresy. You can pull up some verses that are easy to understand. Congratulations. But there are dozens that don't make any sense in the real world of 2018. You infer that people are somehow stupid for not understanding outdated English. It isn't "fresh" at all, it's just what you are personally immersed in so you see it differently. You are behaving like a pharisee over this.
If you were witnessing to a 16 year old kid who struggles with even modern English would you burden him further by telling him modern English translations are all "corrupt"?
1 Corinthians 9 (NIV)
22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some.23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.
(KJV)
22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
I praise the Lord that I was immersed in it. My kids are immersed in it. No problem. Someday, the language of the NIV will be considered outdated. Do we continue to update the words of God to fit our needs or let them stand alone?
Here comes the emoji bible...
Here is a thought.
In dark ages, people needed to know how to be saved and whether they must be submitted to a pope.
God fulfilled this need and gave them Textus Receptus to get this knowlege.
In our scientific time full of perfectionalism, we need the most accurate and most ancient text to defent ourselves against atheists, gnostics, sabbatarians and muslims.
And God also fullfiled this need and gave us better and older texts.
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I'd rather leave the word alone and fit myself into it, rather than continuing to update it to fit my needs.
Nehemiah 8 1 And all the people gathered themselves together as one man into the street that was before the water gate; and they spake unto Ezra the scribe to bring the book of the law of Moses, which the Lord had commanded to Israel.
2 And Ezra the priest brought the law before the congregation both of men and women, and all that could hear with understanding, upon the first day of the seventh month.
3 And he read therein before the street that was before the water gate from the morning until midday, before the men and the women, and those that could understand; and the ears of all the people were attentive unto the book of the law.
4 And Ezra the scribe stood upon a pulpit of wood, which they had made for the purpose; and beside him stood Mattithiah, and Shema, and Anaiah, and Urijah, and Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, on his right hand; and on his left hand, Pedaiah, and Mishael, and Malchiah, and Hashum, and Hashbadana, Zechariah, and Meshullam.
5 And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people
and when he opened it, all the people stood up:6 And Ezra blessed the Lord, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the Lord with their faces to the ground.
7 Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place.
8 So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.
9 And Nehemiah, which is the Tirshatha, and Ezra the priest the scribe, and the Levites that taught the people, said unto all the people, This day is holy unto the Lord your God; mourn not, nor weep. For all the people wept, when they heard the words of the law.
If we would only have this passion when we open and read the word of God. Change it to fit our needs? No way. Let it change me.
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Language changes, So should the language of our bible. Otherwise, it will be unreadable.
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Worship anyone?
Lets worship the word of God. Not some english translation.
The word of God will stand the test of time. (And has) it was around LONG before KJV, it will be around Kong after the last KJV bible is to be found.
Changes in words brings changes in truth and doctrine. That's a fact. One word change can bring about destruction. Ask Eve.