The Error of KJV-Onlyism

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Magenta said:
I have seen a KJ onlyist admit there are errors in the KJ Bible while claiming it is superior to all others. Which really seems self-contradictory! I got into a discussion with another KJ onlyist (who is no longer here) about how a sentence at the beginning of a chapter of Daniel (can't remember which one) was put together and what it meant. He was insisting that the way other versions were worded, other versions were saying that the unsaved would be raised to life everlasting, which was completely wrong. He repeatedly kept pointing to that one sentence, so I went to the chapter to get the context, and saw that he was completely misreading the other versions, for it was plain they were not saying what he claimed they were. What's more, it became apparent to me after going over this with him for a while, that had the tables been turned and the KJV worded the way the others were, and the others worded the way the KJ was, he would be making the very same argument to defend the authority and superiority of the KJV over the others!!! I had found him to be quite reasonable and even gracious on many topics before that, and was able to mostly keep his "cool" when under fire, but realized he was blinded on this issue to be so adamant in his view when he was so clearly wrong. He was banned sometime after that. He must have lost his cool. Oh, I was sorry to see that.
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people just have no idea about how we have gotten the bible. james white has good videos on this and has written a whole book called the king james only controversy. i recommend it to all KJVonlyists.

its just hard to get people to stop thinking like 21st century men when they are 21st century men. for most of church history people did not have bibles at all, many could not read and if those who could read were to get a piece of a copy of st.matthew's gospel they would cherish it instead of looking at it and saying its from the devil cause its the evil alexandrian egypt boogieman text family.
 
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Dino246 said:
I use the KJV on my phone… but what would be the issue if I didn’t use it at all?
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you dont want to know. some people in the kjvonly movement claim you cannot be saved without hearing kjv bible verse preached to you. steven anderson has said this for example. i remember james white talking with him about this.
 
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Melach said:
people just have no idea about how we have gotten the bible. james white has good videos on this and has written a whole book called the king james only controversy. i recommend it to all KJVonlyists.

its just hard to get people to stop thinking like 21st century men when they are 21st century men. for most of church history people did not have bibles at all, many could not read and if those who could read were to get a piece of a copy of st.matthew's gospel they would cherish it instead of looking at it and saying its from the devil cause its the evil alexandrian egypt boogieman text family.
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Yes, and prior to the NT most people did not have the OT either, so folks need to have greater appreciation for general revelation
in God's plan of salvation.
 
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Sipsey said:
The Bible has been translated into numerous languages to make its message accessible worldwide. As of 2024, the translation status is as follows:

• Complete Bible: Translated into 756 languages.

• New Testament only: Available in an additional 1,726 languages.

• Portions or individual books: Translated into 1,274 other languages.



In total, at least some portions of the Bible have been translated into 3,756 languages.
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Yes, but that doesn’t mean they’re the holy words of God, pure words without error.
 
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Dino246 said:
Is that what I said? No. Is that what I implied? No. Is that what your stubborn KJV-only mind wants to believe I said? Obviously. Get some integrity.
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You implication was, since the language of the KJV is outdated, it should be updated to modern English to make it more understandable.
 
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John146 said:
You implication was, since the language of the KJV is outdated, it should be updated to modern English to make it more understandable.
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That’s a great idea! Isn’t that kinda what happened at Pentecost?
 
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Sipsey said:
That’s a great idea! Isn’t that kinda what happened at Pentecost?
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Really? They modernized the launguage's at pentecost? The haters of the KJV are reaching now. Just say its to hard for you to read and move on.
 
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DeanM said:
Really? They modernized the launguage's at pentecost? The haters of the KJV are reaching now. Just say its to hard for you to read and move on.
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DeanM said:
Really? They modernized the launguage's at pentecost? The haters of the KJV are reaching now. Just say its to hard for you to read and move on.
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I think you may be misunderstanding my point. God will indeed use any means necessary to convey His truths- even a donkey or a burning bush.

I had a coworker whose parents gave him an NIV Bible many years ago. After reading from his Bible and praying, he said he experienced God’s forgiveness and saving Grace. When he shared that news with a KJO preacher, he was told that he could not be saved because the NIV Bible was corrupt, and my friend was still lost and headed to hell.
 
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I think you may be misunderstanding my point. God will indeed use any means necessary to convey His truths- even a donkey or a burning bush.

I had a coworker whose parents gave him an NIV Bible many years ago. After reading from his Bible and praying, he said he experienced God’s forgiveness and saving Grace. When he shared that news with a KJO preacher, he was told that he could not be saved because the NIV Bible was corrupt, and my friend was still lost and headed to hell.
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Im not a KJO but those who rail against it I will never understand. The Wyclift bible was used as one of the sources. One guy was concerned that Calvinsts were used to translate it. Did Calvin use different sources than the other reformers? Thats if the Church Of England was Calvinistic which is a debate for another time. Oh and there has been corrections to the KJV since 1611. Without the Wescott and Hort abominations.
 
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