The Error is Baptism in Jesus name only for salvation

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My question to you!

"You tell ME what a person has to do to be saved. Please make it VERY CLEAR using scripture."

YOU gave me HIS word, I did not ask you to share HIS WORD I asked you WHAT DO A PERSON HAVE TO DO TO BE SAVED!!

Do you know what happens to people WHO ADD OR TAKE AWAY HIS WORD? YOU DO NOW.

Revelation 22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Your OPINOIN of HIS WORD is USLESS and you will be held responsible for the words that come out of your mouth.

IT'S NOT to late, you can repent, get baptized in JESUS name to get rid of your sins, and JESUS promised to fill you with his spirit.
I gave you tons of scripture that showed what we had to do.

No baptism required. No works required.

hey you want to make the mistake of the jew and add works to the gospel. feel free.

Thats on you
 
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How can you be saved with out getting rid of your sins? HOW DO WE get rid of our sins. SCRIPTURE ONLY .
My sins were taken care of on the cross.

God baptized me into his death and burial (romans 6)

you want water to wash your sins. good look

Hebrews said it clear. without the shedding of blood. there IS NO FORGIVENESS
 
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What do you think of this scripture?

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Repent (2nd person plural) and let every one of you be baptised (3rd person singular)

how about interpreting the word as it was written and not through some english translation
 
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What does Elohim mean in the Hebrew Language?
The Hebrew word for God is Elohim. It's used with a singular meaning in the Hebrew Bible, Elohim usually refers to the monotheistic Creator God, or to the God of Israel, Yahweh.
I showed you

You said in the hebrew bible it means singular. But even that is not true. because in the hebrew bible it speaks of the gods (plural) of the pagans..
 
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Do not need to change the word of God

By Grace through faith Not of works = grace alone through faith alone (no works)

if it is grace it is no longer works. otherwise grace is no longer grace = Grace plus works = works.

I let it stand. Your the one denying what it says

Galatians 5 verse 4 and 6b ~ You who are trying to be justified by the law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. All that matters is faith, expressed through love.
 

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Do you believe the original language of the Torah and Tanakh is Hebrew?
Good Lord Buddy.

Iv'e asked you countless times now to enlighten me. Why won't you? I know why.


Gen 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


Plural of 'elowahh

elohim: God, gods, divine beings, judges
Original Word: אֱלהִים
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: elohiym
Pronunciation: eh-lo-HEEM
Phonetic Spelling: (el-o-heem')
Definition: God, gods, divine beings, judges
Meaning: gods, the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative
 
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Did you notice in your definition it says in the Hebrew Bible it is SINGULAR?
The hebrews rejected their messiah.

so why would I trust anythign they say

God wrote the Hebrew Bible.

He defined the word Himself.
Yes, And God said "let US make man in OUR image

are you saying God said let me make man in my image?

If there is no trinity, we are still dead in our sin because jesus was a mere man..

Is 48
“Listen to Me, O Jacob,
And Israel, My called:
I am He, I am the First,
I am also the Last.

13 Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth,
And My right hand has stretched out the heavens;
When I call to them,

They stand up together.
14 “All of you, assemble yourselves, and hear!
Who among them has declared these things?
The Lord loves him;
He shall do His pleasure on Babylon,
And His arm shall be against the Chaldeans.
15 I, even I, have spoken;
Yes, I have called him,
I have brought him, and his way will prosper.
16 “Come near to Me, hear this:
I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;
From the time that it was, I was there.
And now the Lord God and His Spirit
Have sent Me.”


who is this person that created the heavens and the earth
Who is this person that nature answers him when he calls out to them, and does what he says
Who is this person that was there in the begining


and who is this person who was sent by the Lord God and His spirit?

and who is the lord God

and who is his spirit
 

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Good Lord Buddy.

Iv'e asked you countless times now to enlighten me. Why won't you? I know why.


Gen 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


Plural of 'elowahh

elohim: God, gods, divine beings, judges
Original Word: אֱלהִים
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: elohiym
Pronunciation: eh-lo-HEEM
Phonetic Spelling: (el-o-heem')
Definition: God, gods, divine beings, judges
Meaning: gods, the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative
I showed you how it's translated as singular. You just are denying the fact that's how God defined it by posting man made English definition. What is man's definition compared to God?
 

Kroogz

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I showed you how it's translated as singular. You just are denying the fact that's how God defined it by posting man made English definition. What is man's definition compared to God?
Show us your resources.
I gave you mine. I want the truth. If my resources are wrong I want to see it.
 

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Show us your resources.
I gave you mine. I want the truth. If my resources are wrong I want to see it.
ʾĔlōhīm [(ʔ)eloˈ(h)im]) is a Hebrew word that in the Hebrew Bible it most often takes singular verbal or pronominal agreement and refers to a single deity, particularly the God of Judaism.
 

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My sins were taken care of on the cross.

God baptized me into his death and burial (romans 6)

you want water to wash your sins. good look

Hebrews said it clear. without the shedding of blood. there IS NO FORGIVENESS
I always say, "Put it to practical use."

On our death bed what are we going to rely on? Christ or something we did?

The foxhole pretty much always brings out the truth........We have been spoiled for a LONG time.
 

lrs68

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The hebrews rejected their messiah.

so why would I trust anythign they say


Yes, And God said "let US make man in OUR image

are you saying God said let me make man in my image?

If there is no trinity, we are still dead in our sin because jesus was a mere man..

Is 48
“Listen to Me, O Jacob,
And Israel, My called:
I am He, I am the First,
I am also the Last.

13 Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth,
And My right hand has stretched out the heavens;
When I call to them,

They stand up together.
14 “All of you, assemble yourselves, and hear!
Who among them has declared these things?
The Lord loves him;
He shall do His pleasure on Babylon,
And His arm shall be against the Chaldeans.
15 I, even I, have spoken;
Yes, I have called him,
I have brought him, and his way will prosper.
16 “Come near to Me, hear this:
I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;
From the time that it was, I was there.
And now the Lord God and His Spirit
Have sent Me.”


who is this person that created the heavens and the earth
Who is this person that nature answers him when he calls out to them, and does what he says
Who is this person that was there in the begining


and who is this person who was sent by the Lord God and His spirit?

and who is the lord God

and who is his spirit
When God tells you to give money to someone truly hungry isn't the Spirit of God the one doing it?

So it's God by the Holy Spirit telling you to do something. But how does that make it plural? It's Simply God telling you what to do, correct?
 
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When God tells you to give money to someone truly hungry isn't the Spirit of God the one doing it?

So it's God by the Holy Spirit telling you to do something. But how does that make it plural? It's Simply God telling you what to do, correct?
You did not answer myquestion

Who was the creator
who was the Gid who sent him
And who was the spirit
 

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ʾĔlōhīm [(ʔ)eloˈ(h)im]) is a Hebrew word that in the Hebrew Bible it most often takes singular verbal or pronominal agreement and refers to a single deity, particularly the God of Judaism.
Plural of 'elowahh

elohim: God, gods, divine beings, judges
Original Word: אֱלהִים
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: elohiym
Pronunciation: eh-lo-HEEM
Phonetic Spelling: (el-o-heem')
Definition: God, gods, divine beings, judges
Meaning: gods, the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/1-26.htm


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Genesis 1:1

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Most authorities agree that "Elohim" is derived from "El" meaning "mighty (one), strong (strength)." The Hebrew ending "-im" added to "El" indicates plurality.

https://www.preceptaustin.org/elohim_-_mighty
 

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Plural of 'elowahh

elohim: God, gods, divine beings, judges
Original Word: אֱלהִים
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: elohiym
Pronunciation: eh-lo-HEEM
Phonetic Spelling: (el-o-heem')
Definition: God, gods, divine beings, judges
Meaning: gods, the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/1-26.htm


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Genesis 1:1

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Most authorities agree that "Elohim" is derived from "El" meaning "mighty (one), strong (strength)." The Hebrew ending "-im" added to "El" indicates plurality.

https://www.preceptaustin.org/elohim_-_mighty
Are you looking up the origins of these definitions it's all English.

When will you use the true Hebrew definition or does that destroy your viewpoint?
 
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Are you looking up the origins of these definitions it's all English.

When will you use the true Hebrew definition or does that destroy your viewpoint?
Not so
again even in the Bible it is translated as Gods when it comes to pagan Gods
so that destroyed your viewpoint.