Speaking in tongues

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Blain

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So I went to this church that I was invited to and as of right now it is the only one that will be able to pick me up as I cannot drive or leave the nursing home I am trapped in well the worship is good but the thing is they were very adamant on trying to get me to speak in tongues they say that everyone is able to have the gift and apparently everyone there speaks in tongues but the thing is when they put me on the spot to speak in tongues I was praying hard but nothing came out but they were telling me to keep going but and that I nbeed to want it bad enough well in the end I told them I cannot do it and I want the real thing I can't force it.

They still wanted me to and they even had their hands on me and were speaking in another language but in the end I told them I am done I just cannot do it in fact all it did was drain me.

I admit I was kind of sad and discouraged as I was hoping I could speak in tongues but the thing is firstly they were all faking it I have been in front of actual tongues before and all they were doing were faking it secondly I just couldn't muster it or have it naturally flow out of me and their laying of hands had no power to it nothing at all

Well I came home and still discouraged began thinking about it and talking to God and I came to the conclusion that what they were doing was wrong. they wanted me to speak tongues on their terms not God's if I ever do speak in tongues it will be when God leads me to not when they want me to and it will come naturally and flow like a river
Another thing is that I may not have the gift period even though they say everyone can have it but when I asked them where does the bible say that anyone can have it they didn't really have an answer they just said the bible indicates that the gift is for everyone but said they would have to find the verse to support it
I am going back next sunday and they likely will try to get me to do it again but doesn't it seem off ? in fact is there any scripture at all to support their claims? as a matter of fact I am pretty sure there is a scripture that outright denies it isn't there?
 
Bro Blain, If there is any hope of having fellowship with those folks, it will be revealed when you ask for permission to read 1Cor. 12,
especially v. 27-31. If they will not accept the truth that SIT is not given to everyone, but that all should desire the greater gift of love,
then shake the dust off your feet and walk to another church or start your own in the home. God bless = Good luck!
 
Hello friend, my experience is not the public but the private manifestation of this gift, the prayer of His words given through me as He knows what I need to pray for better than I.
That is how I taught my grandson and later he confirmed that is how our Lord confirmed to him.
Praying "hard" is a little foreign to me, Kenneth Hagin taught of how walking in gifts is a settling down, not a "building up", to me this relates to how we are to enter His presence with humility and contrition, not pride and arrogance.
blessings brother
 
1 Corinthians 14
1Pursue love, yet earnestly desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2For the one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people, but to God; for no one [a]understands, but https://biblehub.com/nasb_/1_corinthians/14.htm#fnin his spirit he speaks mysteries. 3But the one who prophesies speaks to people for edification, [c]exhortation, and consolation. 4The one who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but the one who prophesies edifies the church. 5Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but rather that you would prophesy; and greater is the one who prophesies than the one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edification.

The core point of the gifts is to edify the Body of Christ.
That said the gift of tongues only edifies the speaker, unless he also interprets.
It is notable that those who only want to speak in tongues is prone to selfishness & limit their ministry by NOT wanting any other gift.
To complete the body of Christ, we should ask for a gift that is absent in the body.
Still, as Paul says, prophecy is the best gift, because the prophet represents the Lord speaking to His church. Prophecy can work in several directions of ministry as the Holy Spirit gives the utterance.
Prophecy is the gift in Acts 2 that God said EVERYONE in the church should possess.
 
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Bro Blain, If there is any hope of having fellowship with those folks, it will be revealed when you ask for permission to read 1Cor. 12,
especially v. 27-31. If they will not accept the truth that SIT is not given to everyone, but that all should desire the greater gift of love,
then shake the dust off your feet and walk to another church or start your own in the home. God bless = Good luck!
Yes this is the scripture I mentioned to them but they just ignored it and said that everyone can have the gift, besides that they seem to really put tongues as the main gift of the holy ghost they keep asking me if I want to receive the holy ghost but I have already receieved it yet unless I speak in tongues they don't think I have. sadly I am unable to go to any other church for now because I need a ride to it and no church so far has been able to pick me up.
 
Hello friend, my experience is not the public but the private manifestation of this gift, the prayer of His words given through me as He knows what I need to pray for better than I.
That is how I taught my grandson and later he confirmed that is how our Lord confirmed to him.
Praying "hard" is a little foreign to me, Kenneth Hagin taught of how walking in gifts is a settling down, not a "building up", to me this relates to how we are to enter His presence with humility and contrition, not pride and arrogance.
blessings brother
Yes this is how I imagine I would speak in tongues if I ever did it would be a private matter not a public spectacle and it would be a form of prayer for me not merely an utterance of a different language
 
1 Corinthians 14
1Pursue love, yet earnestly desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2For the one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people, but to God; for no one [a]understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries. 3But the one who prophesies speaks to people for edification, [c]exhortation, and consolation. 4The one who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but the one who prophesies edifies the church. 5Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but rather that you would prophesy; and greater is the one who prophesies than the one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edification.


The core point of the gifts is to edify the Body of Christ.
That said the gift of tongues only edifies the speaker, unless he also interprets.
It is notable that those who only want to speak in tongues is prone to selfishness & limit their ministry by NOT wanting any other gift.
To complete the body of Christ, we should ask for a gift that is absent in the body.
Still, as Paul says, prophecy is the best gift, because the prophet represents the Lord speaking to His church. Prophecy can work in several directions of ministry as the Holy Spirit gives the utterance.
Prophecy is the gift in Acts 2 that God said EVERYONE in the church should possess.
Yes exactly and the gift of prophecy is my main one but tongues is not and I have seen God use prophecy in ways that tongues never has at least for me. I have only encountered actual tongues once or twice in my life and there is power in it the speaking of tongues will energize you fill you up make you come alive and your spirit flare up
If all people do is merely speak another language but there is no power in their words then what is the point? and yes it is to edify the church and also if done in publicx it requires an interpreter
 
Kenneth Hagin taught of how walking in gifts is a settling down, not a "building up
Kenneth Hagin is a false teacher/prophet.
The gifts enable the body to build one another up in love.
To me, obeying the Lord in the Spirit by the gifts is the greatest way to please God.
 
Kenneth Hagin is a false teacher/prophet.
The gifts enable the body to build one another up in love.
To me, obeying the Lord in the Spirit by the gifts is the greatest way to please God.
Yeah I have heard only bad things about that guy and yes the gifts are for building each other up ithey fan the flames not make the flame be still
 
they say that everyone is able to have the gift
in fact is there any scripture at all to support their claims?
No.

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From 1 Corinthians 12 verses 4-11 ~ There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different ministries, but the same Lord. There are different ways of working, but the same God works all things in all people. Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines.
 
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Romans 12 v 6-8 We have different gifts according to the grace given us. If one’s gift is prophecy, let him use it in proportion to his faith; if it is serving, let him serve; if it is teaching, let him teach; 8if it is encouraging, let him encourage; if it is giving, let him give generously; if it is leading, let him lead with diligence; if it is showing mercy, let him do it cheerfully.
 
No.

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From 1 Corinthians 12 verses 4-11 ~ There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different ministries, but the same Lord. There are different ways of working, but the same God works all things in all people. Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines.
Yeah I didn't think so and they say that the believe the entire bible and only what the bible says but I bet if I ask them for scripture to support their claims they will be at a loss
 
Yeah I have heard only bad things about that guy and yes the gifts are for building each other up ithey fan the flames not make the flame be still
"Hearing things"? When we should know and operate by taking all things to the Father for His truth? That is leaning on ones own faulty understanding, and giving oneself over to gossip, another area that the adversary must be defeated to live in His Divine health and restoration.
 
They still wanted me to and they even had their hands on me and were speaking in another language but in the end I told them I am done I just cannot do it in fact all it did was drain me.
The ability to speak in tongues is given by the Holy Spirit and is not something that a church can give you. Even so, unless there is an interpreter present that can translate what is being said in a language that can be understood by the hearer, what is said is complete nonsense. Seems that the focus of this church is trivial at best. I would not go back.
 
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Kenneth Hagin is a false teacher/prophet.
The gifts enable the body to build one another up in love.
To me, obeying the Lord in the Spirit by the gifts is the greatest way to please God.
I concur with your estimate on obeying the Lord in the Spirit. I never heard of this guy that you mentioned so I cannot offer an opinion on what he is doing is valid in a biblical and spiritual sense so I will just take your word for this.
 
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From 1 Corinthians 12 verses 4-11 ~ There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different ministries, but the same Lord. There are different ways of working, but the same God works all things in all people. Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines.
A precise and succinct conclusive response.
 
"Hearing things"? When we should know and operate by taking all things to the Father for His truth? That is leaning on ones own faulty understanding, and giving oneself over to gossip, another area that the adversary must be defeated to live in His Divine health and restoration.
It isn't just me hearing things I have seen his ministry and I simply don't agree with his teachings but aside from that what does he teach that is biblical? I have not seen many who defend him give an actual biblical teaching of his
 
The ability to speak in tongues is given by the Holy Spirit and is not something that a church can give you. Even so, unless there is an interpreter present that can translate what is being said in a language that can be understood by the hearer, what is said is complete nonsense. Seems that the focus of this church is trivial at best. I would not go back.
Well sadly for me there is no other church I am able to go to so it is either not go and have no church or community to be around or go and hopefully glean something if anything from it that is of the spirit. But maybe if I go there and provide biblical evidence that their teaching is wrong they will learn and listen but I highly doubt that
 
Yes this is the scripture I mentioned to them but they just ignored it and said that everyone can have the gift, besides that they seem to really put tongues as the main gift of the holy ghost they keep asking me if I want to receive the holy ghost but I have already receieved it yet unless I speak in tongues they don't think I have. sadly I am unable to go to any other church for now because I need a ride to it and no church so far has been able to pick me up.

Okay then s
Yes this is the scripture I mentioned to them but they just ignored it and said that everyone can have the gift, besides that they seem to really put tongues as the main gift of the holy ghost they keep asking me if I want to receive the holy ghost but I have already receieved it yet unless I speak in tongues they don't think I have. sadly I am unable to go to any other church for now because I need a ride to it and no church so far has been able to pick me up.

Okay so start a fellowship in the home. I am sure you would be a good leader and I bet there would be a few folks who would appreciate that.
 
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I concur with your estimate on obeying the Lord in the Spirit. I never heard of this guy that you mentioned so I cannot offer an opinion on what he is doing is valid in a biblical and spiritual sense so I will just take your word for this.
Our "opinions" don't matter anyway, we are to receive and walk out Holy Spirit truth as Jesus guided.
 
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