SO MANY FALSE PASTORS TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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Gen. 1:
20Then God said, “Let the waters [ab]teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth [ac]in the open [ad]expanse of the heavens.” 21And God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind; and God saw that it was good. 22God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.
24Then God said, “Let the earth produce living creatures according to [ae]their kind: livestock and crawling things and animals of the earth according to [af]their kind”; and it was so. 25God made the animals of the earth according to [ag]their kind, and the livestock according to [ah]their kind, and everything that crawls on the ground according to its kind; and God saw that it was good.


2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Man's soul was God breathed. No other creation was done that way.
No bueno buddy. Try and keep up.

Gen 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Gen 6:17
And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

Gen 7:15
And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.

Gen 7:22
All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

Act 17:25
Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
 

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Since you're being dogmatic, I choose to dust my feet off instead.
 

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Christians: Pastors Who Don’t Know God.


Many (not all) of these men and women who inhabit the pulpit have exalted themselves above correction, or so they think. Members dare not correct them. Outsiders are pushed away. And day after day, men and women not of God continue to deceive the hearts of the simple. The simple with itching ears who heap to themselves teachers full of comfortable lies, nonsense and false promises. But this time I am not going to start off by calling out Creflo “man of God but confused and deceived by Kenneth Copeland” Dollar, former false teacher Fred Price Sr., T.D. Fakes, Paula “sleep with married Benny Hinn” White, Dale “put your name on everything to promote yourself Bronner, Peter “sucker you with free spring water packets” Popoff, Juanita “profit-ess with serious mental issues” Bynum nor Joel “Don’t Worry Be Happy” watered down Gospel Osteen. Come on people, stop falling for the show. Well I guess I did call them out.

Full article:

Christians: Pastors Who Don’t Know God. (msn.com)
Yes I would say most Christian denominations are morally corrupt and scandalous financially.
 

Publican

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Christians: Pastors Who Don’t Know God.


Many (not all) of these men and women who inhabit the pulpit have exalted themselves above correction, or so they think. Members dare not correct them. Outsiders are pushed away. And day after day, men and women not of God continue to deceive the hearts of the simple. The simple with itching ears who heap to themselves teachers full of comfortable lies, nonsense and false promises. But this time I am not going to start off by calling out Creflo “man of God but confused and deceived by Kenneth Copeland” Dollar, former false teacher Fred Price Sr., T.D. Fakes, Paula “sleep with married Benny Hinn” White, Dale “put your name on everything to promote yourself Bronner, Peter “sucker you with free spring water packets” Popoff, Juanita “profit-ess with serious mental issues” Bynum nor Joel “Don’t Worry Be Happy” watered down Gospel Osteen. Come on people, stop falling for the show. Well I guess I did call them out.

Full article:

Christians: Pastors Who Don’t Know God. (msn.com)
Fred Price was my favorite TV pastor for a long time. He brought the meat. Eventually he became all about money. Very sad.
 

Publican

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I watched Dr Fred Price all through the 80-90's and even taped many of his programs and never found fault with his messages. I learned a lot from him about 'ever increasing faith'. His wife Betty gave the best talk on marital sex I've ever heard.
I watch K Copeland off and on and am watching his Sacramento Campaign this week. He's 86 and been married to Gloria for 59 yrs, his family and him are all in the ministry and in good health. He once prayed passionately over a lady that had a tumorous growth hanging over her face and it disappeared, in Jesus name.
Joel Osteen's mother, Dodie, was diagnosed with liver cancer having a tumor the size of on orange on it. They gave her a few weeks to live. Her husband John Osteen, told the Dr 'we believe in miracles Dr' and they went home fell on their face before God and earnestly prayed. That was in 1981 and she's been alive and well since.
Kenneth Copeland is a demoniac.
 

cv5

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Can you tell me what salary John MacArthur is paid?
Probably $400K. Supposedly his net worth is somewhere between $10-20 million.

"In February 2021, Phil Johnson, an elder at MacArthur’s Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, said that John MacArthur doesn’t make more than $500,000 a year from Grace to You.

His salary ”is well within the upper-medium range for California pastors’ salaries,” according to Johnson."