SEPT COULD BE THE RAPTURE !!!!!

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Blain said:
So I guess we will see what happens then because it is the 23rd
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I seriously doubt that the rapture will be this year because the Bible says that the Antichrist will be revealed first.
So that's problematic.
The other thing is,is that the Antichrist desecrates the temple at the midpoint of the 7 year tribulation. As we see in Daniel.
So that means, in my opinion, that the year of the rapture, we would most likely see the temple being built.
( it would be a stretch, in my opinion, to assume the temple can be built in 3.5 yrs)

Another point is, is that the rapture.
Will most likely occur on the seventh Trump or the last Trump.
The last Trump is prophetically illustrated in the feast of trumpets, but not on the 1st day or, the 2nd day or, the 3rd day, but on the last day of the feast of trumpets.
So, September 23rd is not in my opinion, plausible.
 
Carlyw said:
I've been in the scriptures today, listening to the gospels and whatnot. because, you know, I'm a 23 year old boomer. I want you know know dear brother Eli, you have created this monster...you made claiming to be a boomer too funny. I may not have grown up eating dirt, and you know, like dialing up friends on tablets of stone. But..

Anyway, scripturally I've come to the conclusion that its not wrong to like sense that the times are near. That's going to happen. We are given signs for a reason.

Now setting dates and predicting the times, I don't believe we are supposed to do.
Mark 13:32, Matthew 24:42-44, 2 Peter 3:10, Mark 13:5-23

The rapture will be on a date and a time nobody is prepared for, and to all saying Jesus had given them a dream of the rapture and a date, This is impossible, not even He knows the time. I believe you are hearing these things from a demon disguised as an angel of light. It's unfortunate how mislead we are.
2 Corinthians 11:14
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I Partly agree.
But HE DOES TELL US AHEAD OF TIME .

WE WILL KNOW.

That is illustrated in the 10 virgin parable.

Even the foolish were awakened and scrambling BEFORE the groom appeared.

A least half will miss the rapture, as the bible declares.
 
Psalm1 said:
Nope.
It says "the day or hour."
To say he can not come back in a set of days, as you claim is even worse than trying to make the false claim that the days of the Fall feasts can not be the season of the rapture because "day" and "hour" are forbidden.
You need to go back and read the virgin parable.
The virgins were awakened and warned of the imminent return.

Jesus DID NOT show up unannounced.
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I don't know what the harry you're talking about.

I made no such pronouncement.
Christ's Return is imminent, AND UNKNOWING.
 
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Carlyw said:
Leaning on him would be seeking him through prayer and scripture. I place a high emphasis on understanding God through scripture, I pray as well, often, but I look to scripture as the lense to see God.

If the scripture says something and it conflicts with what my idea is, im wrong.

I will not place my prayer life above scripture when it comes to interpreting truth.

The Bible is breathed out by God, I hate to take him out of context. Hence why I ask, but it seems you dont want to give me the exact scripture youre referencing, and thats okay.
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The bible authenticates what we receive from Jesus and the HS.
The bible also speaks directly through its pages.
The bible is a living word.
Jesus is the word.
We receive from both.

John never wondered if his patmos vision was from God, even though parts were not previously written.

That same Jesus is alive today, speaking to his people.

The rapture will not be announced to one or two saints ahead of time.
The rapture will be announced to half the church. Maybe even 80% of the church.

If you look through these Threads, You will see that maybe half the church hates the idea of a pretribulation rapture,
And there are those that even hate the idea of a rapture in any form.
 
Citizen said:
Just for clarification: Are you saying those who don't agree with or 'see' pretrib rapture will be left behind even though they confess Jesus Christ and have received the Holy Spirit?
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Half the church is definately left behind as vividly illustrated in mat 24 and mat25.
 
Psalm1 said:
I seriously doubt that the rapture will be this year because the Bible says that the Antichrist will be revealed first.
So that's problematic.
The other thing is,is that the Antichrist desecrates the temple at the midpoint of the 7 year tribulation. As we see in Daniel.
So that means, in my opinion, that the year of the rapture, we would most likely see the temple being built.
( it would be a stretch, in my opinion, to assume the temple can be built in 3.5 yrs)

Another point is, is that the rapture.
Will most likely occur on the seventh Trump or the last Trump.
The last Trump is prophetically illustrated in the feast of trumpets, but not on the 1st day or, the 2nd day or, the 3rd day, but on the last day of the feast of trumpets.
So, September 23rd is not in my opinion, plausible.
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Yes until the antichrist is revealed we do not know when the rapture will happen but many also believe that the tribulation is what is going to start not the rapture and if the tribulation does begin this year then we will have to endure until the end or at least until the last trumpet blows and then we will rise and be with the Lord.

Also the guy who originally claimed that the rapture was going to be on the 23rd through a vision from Jesus suddenly back tracked and said people misunderstand what rapture means and that we are ignorant.

So basically he was wrong but puts the blame on everyone else
 
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Carlyw said:
Can you send the scripture locations?
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There are several "watch and wait" verses.
There are two "escape" verses.(pretrib rapture verses)
One in the 7 letters in Revelation.
One by Jesus in the Gospels.
 
Blain said:
Yes until the antichrist is revealed we do not know when the rapture will happen but many also believe that the tribulation is what is going to start not the rapture and if the tribulation does begin this year then we will have to endure until the end or at least until the last trumpet blows and then we will rise and be with the Lord.

Also the guy who originally claimed that the rapture was going to be on the 23rd through a vision from Jesus suddenly back tracked and said people misunderstand what rapture means and that we are ignorant.

So basically he was wrong but puts the blame on everyone else
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It is good you are hoping and praying for the rapture.

Only the bride has that heart.
You are a true believer.

The heart of heaven is the gathering of the bride.

Most likely not this year.
Most likely at the fall feasts next year or later..
It appears we will se the temple started, and the AC out making himself know, but not yet in power BEFORE the rapture.
So many pointers are given up to have a heads up.

Keep longing for our gathering brother.
It may be soon.
 
Psalm1 said:
I Partly agree.
But HE DOES TELL US AHEAD OF TIME .

WE WILL KNOW.

That is illustrated in the 10 virgin parable.

Even the foolish were awakened and scrambling BEFORE the groom appeared.

A least half will miss the rapture, as the bible declares.
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Some interpret that this parable is related to Christ second coming rather than the rapture itself, and that the parables are in relation to Israel itself rather than the whole Christian community. In these times some Jews are are willing to come to Christ, and some are unwilling. Just as some of the virgins were ready, and some were not.

This would make sense since to be ready for Christ return, you have to believe in. Christ. Faith in Christ is what saves. The oil named is the Holy spirit given to us. We all have this. We are awake, along with those we dont completely agree with who are Christians.

This is how one could interpret this parable.

Im going to look more into this interpretation today and weigh it, for me it makes sense as of now, but I need more evidence to truly take sides with it.
 
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Psalm1 said:
I seriously doubt that the rapture will be this year because the Bible says that the Antichrist will be revealed first.
So that's problematic.
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Scripture says that the antichrist is revealed "with the brightness of His (Jesus') coming"
 
Blain said:
Yes until the antichrist is revealed we do not know when the rapture will happen but many also believe that the tribulation is what is going to start not the rapture and if the tribulation does begin this year then we will have to endure until the end or at least until the last trumpet blows and then we will rise and be with the Lord.

Also the guy who originally claimed that the rapture was going to be on the 23rd through a vision from Jesus suddenly back tracked and said people misunderstand what rapture means and that we are ignorant.

So basically he was wrong but puts the blame on everyone else
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I 100% believe we will be arrested as believers right art the start of the 7 yr trib.
From those open air camps the rapture takes place.
We will not be in there very long.
Just my opinion.
The Pharisees will be mocking.
" ha ha ha....where us your satanic pretrib rapture?"

Lol.
Then they will watch us go up with their mouths wide open.
And it will be pretrib.
Lol
 
Carlyw said:
Some interpret that this parable is related to Christ second coming rather than the rapture itself, and that the parables are in relation to Israel itself rather than the whole Christian community. In these times some Jews are are willing to come to Christ, and some are unwilling. Just as some of the virgins were ready, and some were not.

This would make sense since to be ready for Christ return, you have to believe in. Christ. Faith in Christ is what saves. The oil named is the Holy spirit given to us. We all have this. We are awake, along with those we dont completely agree with who are Christians.

This is how one could interpret this parable.

Im going to look more into this interpretation today and weigh it, for me it makes sense as of now, but I need more evidence to truly take sides with it.
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Look at the setting.
Not a tribulation setting.
In the second coming Jesus rides a horse and does not come for his bride.
He comes as a warrior to kill.
Plus, in the second coming , he comes WITH THE SAINTS.
The bonus is that in Rev 19, the second coming, the wedding feast in heaven is ended, and THE BRIDE BECOMES THE WIFE, in heaven.

No way is the virgin parable the second coming.
 
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Mem said:
Scripture says that the antichrist is revealed "with the brightness of His (Jesus') coming"
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The AC is the white horse rider.at the start of the 7 yr trib
The "brightness of Jesus coming" is Rev 19.
After the 7 yr trib.

2 separate events separated by 7 yrs
 
Psalm1 said:
I 100% believe we will be arrested as believers right art the start of the 7 yr trib.
From those open air camps the rapture takes place.
We will not be in there very long.
Just my opinion.
The Pharisees will be mocking.
" ha ha ha....where us your satanic pretrib rapture?"

Lol.
Then they will watch us go up with their mouths wide open.
And it will be pretrib.
Lol
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Personally I think a prewrath rapture is more likely but I do hope the pretrib rapture is also going to happen but really I see a pre wrath one to be more likely.
So basically it goes like this in my mind the seven year treaty is made starting the tribulation the temple is built and half way through the tribulation the antichrist claims to be God and once this happens we could be raptured at any time. But then again I also am wondering if it is possible that a post trib one could happen to as we are told to endure until the end in scripture

Unless of course it is speaking of the saints who are saved in the tribulation as I truly believe there is going to be a great harvest and revival in the tribulation especially concering Israel
 
Psalm1 said:
Nope.
It says "the day or hour."
To say he can not come back in a set of days, as you claim is even worse than trying to make the false claim that the days of the Fall feasts can not be the season of the rapture because "day" and "hour" are forbidden.
You need to go back and read the virgin parable.
The virgins were awakened and warned of the imminent return.

Jesus DID NOT show up unannounced.
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Well He's never 'unannounced' if you are a Christian (in more than name only). You might try researching how many people have been sure of when He is returning and the failure or those predictions. I actually belonged to a church some years back, where the pastor had everyone reading a book (memory fails me as to the name of said book) and excitement grew as the congregation believed it would be any time now. People (and this is really sad) actually had their pets put down at the vet so they would not be left without anyone to look after them.

Myself and a good number of other people did not 'fall' for what amounted to a stunt in the end and no apology or anything when the 'return' did not happen. If you are a believer you don't have to pinpoint a date or even a month. But as others have pointed out, alot still needs to happen before Jesus returns.
 
Psalm1 said:
We are in that fall feasts setting...
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You can argue all day about feasts, but that's beside the point of my post. At best, Robinson makes a series of confused speculative statements [could be, might be...]. At worst, he claims his speculations are the fulfillment of prophecy. That's not prophecy. It's just a guy making guesses and then covering his backside just in case it doesn't work out.
 
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Blain said:
Personally I think a prewrath rapture is more likely but I do hope the pretrib rapture is also going to happen but really I see a pre wrath one to be more likely.
So basically it goes like this in my mind the seven year treaty is made starting the tribulation the temple is built and half way through the tribulation the antichrist claims to be God and once this happens we could be raptured at any time. But then again I also am wondering if it is possible that a post trib one could happen to as we are told to endure until the end in scripture

Unless of course it is speaking of the saints who are saved in the tribulation as I truly believe there is going to be a great harvest and revival in the tribulation especially concering Israel
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The rapture setting is pretrib.
Every rapture verse has pretrib setting.

I discovered another item when I studied the fall feasts. There’s 2 instances where we see Palm branches being waived.
One instance is at the fall feasts where they wave Palm branches. I think it might be in the feast of tabernacles.
The other is the triumphal entry, when Jesus rode the donkey into Jerusalem.
A third palm branch scene is The enumerable number in heaven waving Palm branches during the trib.
It is declared in Leviticus, chapter 23 that, at the fall feast they waive the Palm branches for 7 days.
We see the third instance, the numeral number in heaven, and we see that they are waving Palm branches. It could be that those 7 days of waving at the feast are prophetically pointing to 7 years that those martyrs will be in heaven.

Which points do a pre-tribulation rapture once again?
 
pinebeach said:
Well He's never 'unannounced' if you are a Christian (in more than name only). You might try researching how many people have been sure of when He is returning and the failure or those predictions. I actually belonged to a church some years back, where the pastor had everyone reading a book (memory fails me as to the name of said book) and excitement grew as the congregation believed it would be any time now. People (and this is really sad) actually had their pets put down at the vet so they would not be left without anyone to look after them.

Myself and a good number of other people did not 'fall' for what amounted to a stunt in the end and no apology or anything when the 'return' did not happen. If you are a believer you don't have to pinpoint a date or even a month. But as others have pointed out, alot still needs to happen before Jesus returns.
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In my example Jesus, or his messengers, announce his immediate coming.
In the example you are referring to, men did it.
They were wrong.
Jesus will be right on target.
HE will tell his bride.
 
Psalm1 said:
The rapture setting is pretrib.
Every rapture verse has pretrib setting.

I discovered another item when I studied the fall feasts. There’s 2 instances where we see Palm branches being waived.
One instance is at the fall feasts where they wave Palm branches. I think it might be in the feast of tabernacles.
The other is the triumphal entry, when Jesus rode the donkey into Jerusalem.
A third palm branch scene is The enumerable number in heaven waving Palm branches during the trib.
It is declared in Leviticus, chapter 23 that, at the fall feast they waive the Palm branches for 7 days.
We see the third instance, the numeral number in heaven, and we see that they are waving Palm branches. It could be that those 7 days of waving at the feast are prophetically pointing to 7 years that those martyrs will be in heaven.

Which points do a pre-tribulation rapture once again?
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Forgive my ignorance here but what do the palm branches have to do with the rapture setting? I understand it is a ceremony but I don't see how it has to do with thre rapture and as for the martyrs well what martyrs is it talking about? Because doesn't revelation speak of them but in a future tense?
 
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