Replacement theology? Yes or No.

[God-fearing]

So Gentiles believers who were once strangers to the commonwealth of Israel are now one with Jewish believers in Christ. There is no middle wall of partition between them and they are not foreigners, fellow citizens in the household of God.
ISRAEL of God?
One olive tree?
One kingdom?

Nutshell

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

We are all living stones.Living stones for what?! The Kingdom of God!Stones for the walls that protect a city.stones for temples and buildings that makes up a city,stones for the roads that connect a kingdoms territory,stones for gates.We make up the kingdom of God.

Luke 17:20-21
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

 

[cv5]

Sorry,I still see spiritual Israel.The way I see it,and it's so simple that it blows my mind that some who we come to have a disagreement with on scripture/prophecy will resort to calling us antisemitic, or use the term replacement theology as a defense mechanism.
God's plan was to bring all things unto himself,that which was "fallen" or corrupted by sin.He reconciles all things onto himself through the blood of his cross.So in all things seen and unseen they will consist through him by spirit,water,blood
The law(water) was given to the Israelites of the OT, and in the NT the gentiles were were grafted in,or given the kingdom of heaven(blood.)
the Israelites and gentiles are as one like the covenants are as one.

And you can see the foreshadowing of all this through...the Israel of old!
Israel is set apart as a remnant of Gods greater plan to save man.
Within Israel itself is another remnant,who are the Levites.
Us Christians who go out and preach the word of God are like the Levites who were instructed to be as priests to the rest of Israel.
In fact this remnant within Israel is where the promise was fulfilled.God always has had a faithful remnant throughout history so he has kept his promise to his faithful remnant.
What was the remnant Levites inheritance?
God! he was their inheritance and it was given/restored to them through the Holy Spirit.

BTW, Jesus CLEARLY declared that John the Baptist (the first coming "type" of Elijah) was REJECTED and ***not received***, nor did John have a fully effective ministry during his time. This, of course, will not be the case in the NEXT ministry of Elijah, the Day of the Lord ministry.

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Matthew 11:13–14

“For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.
And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come.”​

That phrase “if you are willing to receive it” means:

Israel as a nation was not willing.​

Matthew 11:16–19

Jesus compares Israel to children who refused to respond:

“John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon.’
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Look, a glutton and a drunkard!’”​

Both John and Jesus were rejected.

Jesus links John’s death to Elijah being rejected
Matthew 17:10–13

“The disciples asked, ‘Why do the scribes say Elijah must come first?’
Jesus replied, ‘Elijah does come and will restore all things.
But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished.’
Then the disciples understood that He was speaking to them of John the Baptist.”​

This is explicit:


John = Elijah-type
Israel = rejected him
Therefore: Elijah’s ministry failed in that generation

Why this matters prophetically

Malachi promised Elijah before the Day of the LORD:


Malachi 4:5–6


John came in that role — but Israel rejected him.


So Jesus says:

Elijah will still come (future),
because the Elijah-mission was not fulfilled.​

That’s why Revelation 11 shows an Elijah-type again during the final “Day of the LORD.”


The chain is perfect

Malachi Elijah will come
John - Came in Elijah’s spirit - Israel Rejected him
Jesus Confirms rejection
Future Elijah-type returns to fulfill the prophecy of the "RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS!"

 

[cv5]

So Gentiles believers who were once strangers to the commonwealth of Israel are now one with Jewish believers in Christ. There is no middle wall of partition between them and they are not foreigners, fellow citizens in the household of God.
ISRAEL of God?
One olive tree?
One kingdom?

Why would anyone agree to a baseless, ignorant opinion bereft of the slightest Biblical support?
And why would anybody conjure up bogus doctrine so whimsically and contemptuously and then try and sell it?

 

[cv5]

BTW, Jesus CLEARLY declared that John the Baptist (the first coming "type" of Elijah) was REJECTED and ***not received***, nor did John have a fully effective ministry during his time. This, of course, will not be the case in the NEXT ministry of Elijah, the Day of the Lord ministry.

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Matthew 11:13–14

“For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.​

And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come.”​

That phrase “if you are willing to receive it” means:

Israel as a nation was not willing.​

Matthew 11:16–19

Jesus compares Israel to children who refused to respond:

“John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon.’​

The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Look, a glutton and a drunkard!’”​

Both John and Jesus were rejected.

Jesus links John’s death to Elijah being rejected
Matthew 17:10–13

“The disciples asked, ‘Why do the scribes say Elijah must come first?’​

Jesus replied, ‘Elijah does come and will restore all things.​

But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished.’​

Then the disciples understood that He was speaking to them of John the Baptist.”​

This is explicit:


John = Elijah-type
Israel = rejected him
Therefore: Elijah’s ministry failed in that generation

Why this matters prophetically

Malachi promised Elijah before the Day of the LORD:


Malachi 4:5–6


John came in that role — but Israel rejected him.


So Jesus says:

Elijah will still come (future),​

because the Elijah-mission was not fulfilled.​

That’s why Revelation 11 shows an Elijah-type again during the final “Day of the LORD.”


The chain is perfect

Malachi Elijah will come
John - Came in Elijah’s spirit - Israel Rejected him
Jesus Confirms rejection
Future Elijah-type returns to fulfill the prophecy of the "RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS!"

Its so over for the preterists and historicists.....

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Matthew 17:10–13

“The disciples asked, ‘Why do the scribes say Elijah must come first?’
Jesus replied, ‘Elijah does come and will restore all things. (BUT NOT THEN, NOT YET)
But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished.’
Then the disciples understood that He was speaking to them of John the Baptist.”

 

[cv5]

No, its definitely not the truth. Never was never will be.

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Let’s compare Matthew 24 side-by-side with the Old Testament “IN THAT DAY” passages to see how tightly they lock together.


Once you see this, you realize Matthew 24 is not new prophecy — it is a precision mosaic of the prophets.


What Jesus is doing in Matthew 24

When Jesus spoke the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24–25), He did three things at once:

1. He quoted Daniel
2. He quoted Isaiah
3. He quoted Zechariah & Joel

All of them used the phrase “in that day” to describe Israel’s final crisis and rescue.


1) Great Tribulation

Jesus:

“Then shall be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world…”​

— Matthew 24:21​

Daniel:

“There shall be a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation…”​

— Daniel 12:1​

Zechariah:

“Two-thirds shall be cut off and die… the third shall be refined through fire.”​

— Zechariah 13:8–9​

These three are describing the same event.


🌩 2) Cosmic Collapse

Jesus:

“Immediately after the tribulation… the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light…”​

— Matthew 24:29​

Joel:

“The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and terrible Day of the LORD.”​

— Joel 2:31​

Isaiah:

“The stars… will not give their light… the earth will be shaken.”​

— Isaiah 13:9–13​

3) The Messiah Appears

Jesus:

“Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven… and they will see the Son of Man coming…”​

— Matthew 24:30​

Zechariah:

“They will look on Me whom they pierced and mourn…”​

— Zechariah 12:10​

Same moment — Israel sees Him.


🕊 4) Israel Repents

Jesus:

“All the tribes of the earth will mourn.”​

— Matthew 24:30​

Zechariah:

“They shall mourn for Him as one mourns for an only son.”​

— Zechariah 12:10–14​

This is national repentance of Israel.


5) Israel Regathered

Jesus:

“He will send His angels… and they will gather His elect from the four winds.”​

— Matthew 24:31​

Isaiah:

“In that day a great trumpet will be blown… and they shall come and worship the LORD in Jerusalem.”​

— Isaiah 27:13​

Same trumpet. Same regathering.


The sequence is identical

Prophets (“In that day”) Jesus (Matthew 24) Israel besieged Jerusalem surrounded
Great slaughter Great tribulation Cosmic darkness Sun & moon dark
Messiah appears Son of Man appears
Israel mourns Tribes mourn
Israel gathered Elect gathered
Kingdom begins

Jesus did not reinterpret the prophets — He fulfilled their sequence.


This proves something huge

Matthew 24 is not about:

• the Church
• heaven
• a secret rapture

It is about:

Israel’s final crisis → Israel’s repentance → Israel’s Messiah → Israel’s Kingdom​

That is exactly what “IN THAT DAY” always meant in the Hebrew prophets.

Needed additional passages here, this more to the point.
And as I have been saying, Matthew 24 has zero to do with the Church. It is uttered for the benefit of Israel.

Israel Regathered

Here are the key Bible passages that explicitly say angels will gather Israel at the Second Coming of Christ — and they all fit perfectly with Moses’ promise in Deuteronomy 30.

1. Jesus Himself — Israel regathered by angels
Gospel of Matthew 24:30–31

“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven…​

and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds…​

and He will send His angels with a great trumpet,​

and they will gather His elect​

from the four winds,​

from one end of heaven to the other.”​

This is not the Church being raptured —
this is Israel being regathered.
The language directly quotes Moses:

• “four winds” = Deut 30:4
• trumpet = Isaiah 27:13
• gathering = worldwide Jewish return

2. Isaiah predicted it 700 years earlier
Book of Isaiah 27:12–13

“The LORD will gather the children of Israel one by one…​

And in that day a great trumpet will be blown,​

and those who were perishing…​

will come and worship the LORD in Jerusalem.”​

Jesus is quoting this passage.
3. Ezekiel: Angels as agents of regathering
Book of Ezekiel 34:11–13

“I Myself will search for My sheep and seek them out…​

I will bring them out from the peoples​

and gather them from the countries​

and bring them into their own land.”​

God sends His agents — angels — to perform this.
4. Zechariah: The Lord returns and regathers Israel
Book of Zechariah 10:8–10

“I will whistle for them and gather them…​

I will bring them back from the land of Egypt and Assyria…​

and bring them to the land of Gilead and Lebanon.”​

This happens when the Lord returns in Zechariah 14.
5. Why angels are used
Angels are:

• God’s harvesters (Matthew 13)
• God’s reapers
• God’s messengers

When Christ returns, He does not leave Israel scattered —
He sends angels to bring them home.
Bottom line
At the Second Coming:

• Christ appears
• Trumpet sounds
• Angels go out
• Israel is regathered
• Jerusalem becomes the center of the Kingdom

That is the fulfillment of:

Deuteronomy 30​

Isaiah 27​

Matthew 24​

Ezekiel 36–37​

Zechariah 12–14​

All one story.

 

[HeIsHere]

Sorry,I still see spiritual Israel.The way I see it,and it's so simple that it blows my mind that some who we come to have a disagreement with on scripture/prophecy will resort to calling us antisemitic, or use the term replacement theology as a defense mechanism.
God's plan was to bring all things unto himself,that which was "fallen" or corrupted by sin.He reconciles all things onto himself through the blood of his cross.So in all things seen and unseen they will consist through him by spirit,water,blood
The law(water) was given to the Israelites of the OT, and in the NT the gentiles were were grafted in,or given the kingdom of heaven(blood.)
the Israelites and gentiles are as one like the covenants are as one.

And you can see the foreshadowing of all this through...the Israel of old!
Israel is set apart as a remnant of Gods greater plan to save man.
Within Israel itself is another remnant,who are the Levites.
Us Christians who go out and preach the word of God are like the Levites who were instructed to be as priests to the rest of Israel.
In fact this remnant within Israel is where the promise was fulfilled.God always has had a faithful remnant throughout history so he has kept his promise to his faithful remnant.
What was the remnant Levites inheritance?
God! he was their inheritance and it was given/restored to them through the Holy Spirit.

Exactly so simple.. instead we have .....

charts and predictions just like a piano where you play any tune you want on it.

 

[cv5]

Exactly so simple.. instead we have .....

charts and predictions just like a piano where you play any tune you want on it.

Quaint. But, not much of a defense really.

I'm cleaning house here. Enjoy the show.

 

[cv5]

Sorry,I still see spiritual Israel.The way I see it,and it's so simple that it blows my mind that some who we come to have a disagreement with on scripture/prophecy will resort to calling us antisemitic, or use the term replacement theology as a defense mechanism.
God's plan was to bring all things unto himself,that which was "fallen" or corrupted by sin.He reconciles all things onto himself through the blood of his cross.So in all things seen and unseen they will consist through him by spirit,water,blood
The law(water) was given to the Israelites of the OT, and in the NT the gentiles were were grafted in,or given the kingdom of heaven(blood.)
the Israelites and gentiles are as one like the covenants are as one.

And you can see the foreshadowing of all this through...the Israel of old!
Israel is set apart as a remnant of Gods greater plan to save man.
Within Israel itself is another remnant,who are the Levites.
Us Christians who go out and preach the word of God are like the Levites who were instructed to be as priests to the rest of Israel.
In fact this remnant within Israel is where the promise was fulfilled.God always has had a faithful remnant throughout history so he has kept his promise to his faithful remnant.
What was the remnant Levites inheritance?
God! he was their inheritance and it was given/restored to them through the Holy Spirit.

Israel is set apart as a remnant of Gods greater plan to save man.

Israel will be redeemed, reconstituted, and then recommission to do their original assignment, acting as God's priests to the gentile world.

And they will. This time, unfailingly, and be blessed for it.

 

[HeIsHere]

Israel is set apart as a remnant of Gods greater plan to save man.

Israel will be redeemed, reconstituted, and then recommission to do their original assignment, acting as God's priests to the gentile world.

And they will. This time, unfailingly, and be blessed for it.

So God failed the first time.
Nope, He did not, His victory was absolute, people can choose to believe it or not.

Galatians is clear on who is a Jew then and now.

.

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

BTW, Jesus CLEARLY declared that John the Baptist (the first coming "type" of Elijah) was REJECTED and ***not received***, nor did John have a fully effective ministry during his time. This, of course, will not be the case in the NEXT ministry of Elijah, the Day of the Lord ministry.

**********************************************************************************************

Matthew 11:13–14

“For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.​

And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come.”​

That phrase “if you are willing to receive it” means:

Israel as a nation was not willing.​

Matthew 11:16–19

Jesus compares Israel to children who refused to respond:

“John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon.’​

The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Look, a glutton and a drunkard!’”​

Both John and Jesus were rejected.

Jesus links John’s death to Elijah being rejected
Matthew 17:10–13

“The disciples asked, ‘Why do the scribes say Elijah must come first?’​

Jesus replied, ‘Elijah does come and will restore all things.​

But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished.’​

Then the disciples understood that He was speaking to them of John the Baptist.”​

This is explicit:


John = Elijah-type
Israel = rejected him
Therefore: Elijah’s ministry failed in that generation

Why this matters prophetically

Malachi promised Elijah before the Day of the LORD:


Malachi 4:5–6


John came in that role — but Israel rejected him.


So Jesus says:

Elijah will still come (future),​

because the Elijah-mission was not fulfilled.​

That’s why Revelation 11 shows an Elijah-type again during the final “Day of the LORD.”


The chain is perfect

Malachi Elijah will come
John - Came in Elijah’s spirit - Israel Rejected him
Jesus Confirms rejection
Future Elijah-type returns to fulfill the prophecy of the "RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS!"

So Elijah's ministry failed because only a remnant was saved?What about later when only a remnant will be saved.Will that be considered a failure as well?

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

Israel is set apart as a remnant of Gods greater plan to save man.

Israel will be redeemed, reconstituted, and then recommission to do their original assignment, acting as God's priests to the gentile world.

And they will. This time, unfailingly, and be blessed for it.

What if you saw me made a pillar in the temple of God?Or if God ordained me a king and priest?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Exactly so simple.. instead we have .....

charts and predictions just like a piano where you play any tune you want on it.

Spiritual things are foolishness to the carnal mind, so it invents all manner of foolishness to try (unsuccessfully) to explain simple spiritual realities. The result is just chaos and confusion. I know what I'm talking about because I used to have that spiritual disease due to the fact that my first bible was a Scofield bible, which infected my mind with all manner of unbelief and error. So many things in the bible just didn't make sense because it is impossible to discern spiritual truth when one's mind has been infected with anti-Christ ideas. But now everything is much clearer since I found the cure.

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

Exactly so simple.. instead we have .....

charts and predictions just like a piano where you play any tune you want on it.

View attachment 285652

One of this guys YT vids is the first one I tried to watch as a born again Christian but I couldn't watch it for long cause it was so worldly from what God showed me.People like him get thousands of views.

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

Spiritual things are foolishness to the carnal mind, so it invents all manner of foolishness to try (unsuccessfully) to explain simple spiritual realities. The result is just chaos and confusion. I know what I'm talking about because I used to have that spiritual disease due to the fact that my first bible was a Scofield bible, which infected my mind with all manner of unbelief and error. So many things in the bible just didn't make sense because it is impossible to discern spiritual truth when one's mind has been infected with anti-Christ ideas. But now everything is much clearer since I found the cure.

Can you give me a quick run down on what the Scofield Bible is?

 

[cv5]

So God failed the first time.

Oh for heaven sake you have read Romans right?

Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. (RAPTURE)

THEN:

Rom 11:26 (END TIME REDEMPTION TO THE NEW COVENANT)
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Rom 11:27 (END TIME REDEMPTION TO THE NEW COVENANT)
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

 

[cv5]

Spiritual things are foolishness to the carnal mind, so it invents all manner of foolishness to try (unsuccessfully) to explain simple spiritual realities. The result is just chaos and confusion. I know what I'm talking about because I used to have that spiritual disease due to the fact that my first bible was a Scofield bible, which infected my mind with all manner of unbelief and error. So many things in the bible just didn't make sense because it is impossible to discern spiritual truth when one's mind has been infected with anti-Christ ideas. But now everything is much clearer since I found the cure.

Cute. But what you don't have is a valid case, or legitimate Scriptural support.

 

[cv5]

What if you saw me made a pillar in the temple of God?Or if God ordained me a king and priest?

And what does that have to do with the Redemption of the Nation Israel to glorious service in the millennium?

 

[HeIsHere]

Spiritual things are foolishness to the carnal mind, so it invents all manner of foolishness to try (unsuccessfully) to explain simple spiritual realities. The result is just chaos and confusion. I know what I'm talking about because I used to have that spiritual disease due to the fact that my first bible was a Scofield bible, which infected my mind with all manner of unbelief and error. So many things in the bible just didn't make sense because it is impossible to discern spiritual truth when one's mind has been infected with anti-Christ ideas. But now everything is much clearer since I found the cure.

I could not agree more.

Although, I will say even as a new believer many years back when fellow believers (dispensationalists to the extreme) were saying there was this gap in the Book of Daniel between the 69th and 70th week of 2000 years, I was very suspect, it just did not make sense to me, but I tucked it away because I trusted them.

That was a mistake.

 

[HeIsHere]

One of this guys YT vids is the first one I tried to watch as a born again Christian but I couldn't watch it for long cause it was so worldly from what God showed me.People like him get thousands of views.

I hear ya, I could not watch him for long because my brain hurt!!!