Replacement theology? Yes or No.

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I listened to an interview with a friendly Jewish psychiatrist yesterday evening. He believes that Jesus was the greatest Jewish prophet, but not the Son of God or the Christ.
Should I pray that someone will lead him to faith in Christ or is he good to go as a "physical child of Abraham?"
No, he is not saved automatically. That has nothing to do with Israel's place in God's plan and purpose.

There are vast numbers of people who got to church. They agree with the fundamental doctrines. I believed that Jesus was the Son of God, that I died and rose again. I also believed that Nero was a Roman emperor. Neither of those truths meant anything to me. Those who go to church apart from a relationship with Christ may kid themselves that they are saved. They are wrong. Jews who reject Jesus are also unsaved.
 
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The preacher is Dr James Tour. He is a brilliant scientist, a fervent evangelist and knowledgeable about Israel's place in God's plan and purpose. It is quite long, but well worth hearing. Replacement people don't listen. You will have to change your minds if you do.

The preacher is Dr James Tour. He is a brilliant scientist, a fervent evangelist and knowledgeable about Israel's place in God's plan and purpose. It is quite long, but well worth hearing. Replacement people don't listen. You will have to change your minds if you do.

Thank You for posting this. This covers it all.
 
Replacement theology is not a thing, it is a straw man used by the John Hagee et al., dispensationalists

I'm confused. Can you explain more why you say replacement theology doesn't exist as I understand it to be the belief that the nation of Israel no longer has any purpose in the world and that the Church has taken over from it.
 
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Bravo...hilarious!! :ROFL::ROFL:
 
You do not know God's plan and purpose as revealed in scripture.

He actually does very well... sticks with the word of God and understands in context, newspaper eschatology dispensationalists not so much.
 
I'm confused. Can you explain more why you say replacement theology doesn't exist as I understand it to be the belief that the nation of Israel no longer has any purpose in the world and that the Church has taken over from it.

The one true church/believers exists in both the new and old testament, that is why replacement theology is not a thing, it is just something made up to disparage, throw shade on covenant theology.
 
The book of Revelation makes no sense if Israel is no longer God's nation.

Maybe spend some time reading Flavius Josephus cause it all makes sense when one puts in context of the first century NOT 2000+ years into the future.

Ultimately, Christ Jesus was perfectly clear... when YOU see these things... spoken to the His disciples.
In Matthew 24 He uses YOU close 20+ times.
 
For me, it is a mystery how those who are born again can so misconstrue God's Word. Even as the truth literally stares them in the face, they deny that God brought Israel back to the land that He gave them.

Really, we rely on scripture not the current events.

What scripture actually teaches .. when can exclude the headlines completely.

The destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70 is not an extension of Daniel’s Seventy Weeks but the historical manifestation of covenantal judgment already finalized through Christ.

Judgment does not require the prophetic “clock” to remain running once the covenant has been confirmed and sacrifice has ceased. Jesus’ declaration—“Your house is left to you desolate” (Matt 23:38)—functions as the legal sentence; A.D. 70 is its execution.
 
Rev 3:9
Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.

Maybe, just maybe there is more to this verse than we have been taught.......Replacement theology of today could very well be in this verse.......Notice how it is not "to the Lake of Fire for you!" It is a shame and a wake up call.........Discipline for believers who thought they "replaced" the Jew.

You should examine the whole letter to improve understanding.

First, it is quite likely that the church in Philadelphia was a mixture of people with Israelite and Gentile lineage.

Here is the whole letter.

“And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write,
‘These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”:


This is a direct quote from Isaiah 22: HERE It references the absolute in spiritual authority. Therefore, we are to know that this is Christ speaking here.

8 “I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it; for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name.

The church was small but strong.

9 Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.

This is likely a reference to persecution from the Jews to the believers in Philadelphia. This would be consistent with what Paul wrote about in Galatians:

"Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise. But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now."

This is about the Jews persecuting the believers in Christ who were born according to the Spirit. Jewish persecution of Christians was a thing. You see, when once "Jew" meant anyone born in the line of Judah, it now means (as it did when this letter was written) anyone in the line of Christ. In the kingdom of God, the flesh of a man doesn't matter only his spirit and whether or not he is born from above in Christ.

10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11 Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. 12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.

13 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’


So the name of the city of God is "New Jerusalem" - the one that comes down from above. She is the "mother of us all" - which means "the mother of all who are born by faith in Christ. This is juxtaposed against the current, terrestrial Jerusalem that is in bondage to sin. This, Paul also wrote about to the Galatians.

"...for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children."
 
You do not know God's plan and purpose as revealed in scripture. You do not understand God's covenant with Israel. Try studying scripture. God's covenant with Israel, which includes literal physical land and people, will endure as long as the sun rises and the moon orbits the earth. I checked when I got up this morning. Nothing has changed.

The book of Revelation makes no sense if Israel is no longer God's nation. I can't see Muslims, or anyone but the Jews, building the third temple. And that must happen before the beginning of the millennium. Do you not know that the meek will inherit the earth? What do you think that means? Do you not know that God will appoint the faithful to rule the earth during the millennium? I thought that you knew the Bible. I guess not.
“You do not know God's plan and purpose as revealed in scripture. You do not understand God's covenant with Israel. Try studying scripture.”

I know that israel
Broke thier covenant God made with them as he said they would and promised to make a new one later ….here’s the scripture

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭31:31

I also have taken the time to read Israel’s covenant law that declares what would happen if they broke it.

The idea Israel’s covenant was without condition based on thier behavior is uninformed . Or that they didn’t brake it also uninformed or that God didn’t make a new covenant when Jesus came forth also uninformed and almost biblically illiterate
 
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“You do not know God's plan and purpose as revealed in scripture. You do not understand God's covenant with Israel. Try studying scripture.”

I know that Israel
Broke their covenant God made with them as he said they would and promised to make a new one later ….here’s the scripture

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭31:31

I also have taken the time to read Israel’s covenant law that declares what would happen if they broke it.

The idea Israel’s covenant was without condition based on their behavior is uninformed . Or that they didn’t brake it also uninformed or that God didn’t make a new covenant when Jesus came forth also uninformed and almost biblically illiterate

Yes, illiterate because their view is also carnal, much like the mistake of the Pharisees and not just them but the their followers at that time, for which they suffered grievously.
 
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Let me simplify with a historical approach - whenever the term "Israel" pops up, keep in mind always that it's NOT equivalent with ethnical Jews nor modern state of Israel between the Mediterrinean Sea and Jordan River. Israel used to be a conglomerate of twevle tribes, Jews are two tribes, Judah and Benjamin, the other ten were lost after the Assyrian conquest, they were scattered around the world and fully assimilated into other nations. So when Jesus said he came for the lost children of Israel, that's what He was referring to. The prodigal son was also primarily a metaphor for the ten lost tribes. Now through Christ, the lost could be found, Gentiles could be adopted as children of God under the Abrahamic covenant below.

I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing.
I will bless those who bless you,

And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed. (Gen. 12:2-3)

James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ,
To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad:
Greetings. (James 1:1)

yeah biblically israel is the name God gave Jacob when he had his encounter. The children of Israel. Who Gid made a covenant with are named for 12 of jacobs sons . There was a covenant made with them from Sinai regarding thier earthly land . This was what it said repetetively

“And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul, that I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil. Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them; and then the LORD's wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish quickly from off the good land which the LORD giveth you.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭11:13-14, 16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; a blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: and a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭11:26-28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to understand Israel’s covenant it needs to be read carefully it was always based on wheat they would do according to the law of Moses when they entered thier ond it’s the law of that land .

what they did was worshipped every god around besides God they constantly created idols and worshipped them in the land God gave them d just as is repeatedly said in tbier covenwnt they broke it and it became a curse to do this

“But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments; I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you. I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate. And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy. And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you. And I will make your cities waste, and bring your sanctuaries unto desolation, and I will not smell the savour of your sweet odours. And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it.”
‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭26:14, 16-17, 22, 25, 30-

thier covenwnt was fulfilled as the cirse just like Gid told them would happen if they broke it and worshipped false gods .

abut he promised a new covenant and it has nothing to do with the land of Israel it’s a new covenant with better inheritance

“These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:13-14, 16‬

“but ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12:

the New Testament is not in any way about restoring Israel according to thier old broken defiled covenant or desolate lands . Just like every human being Israelites can be saved by Jesus Christ for his eternal kingdom that is not in this world but is here in his promises

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

( but here ) Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:10, 13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Israel had a covenant with God that made them exclusive they broke it and it was fulfilled as the curse written all throughout it if it was broken

Its hard to always argue the bare basics but often becomes evident people are reading different sections of scripture and neglecting to read the connecting verses or follow Israel’s story through the ot
 
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For me, it is a mystery how those who are born again can so misconstrue God's Word. Even as the truth literally stares them in the face, they deny that God brought Israel back to the land that He gave them.
Yeah look to the Babylonian captivity and maybe consider that whole story
 
For me, it is a mystery how those who are born again can so misconstrue God's Word. Even as the truth literally stares them in the face, they deny that God brought Israel back to the land that He gave them.
Some study relying on their natural minds to learn, others rely on the Holy Spirit to learn, the Holy Spirit who inspired the OT prophets to prophesy as they did. And never the twain shall meet
 
For me, it is a mystery how those who are born again can so misconstrue God's Word. Even as the truth literally stares them in the face, they deny that God brought Israel back to the land that He gave them.

No mystery we trust the words of Jesus who knew the OT and quoted it often.
Do you ever examine his predictions?
 
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Some study relying on their natural minds to learn, others rely on the Holy Spirit to learn, the Holy Spirit who inspired the OT prophets to prophesy as they did. And never the twain shall meet

You should know that prophesy was upgraded after the appearing of the Son.

This is what Hebrews means:

"God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds..."

The Son spoke as Jesus and He continued speaking through the apostles and prophets as Christ by the Holy Spirit.

Jesus said as much: "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come."

So, this is the grace given to the writers of the New Testament: The Son now speaks directly to those who have the Holy Spirit in them. This is called "revelation" and is essential for life in the Spirit.

The opposite life is like the life of Judas, who saw Christ as a great leader who would fight against the Romans. THIS is the same carnal view of eschatology that says flesh Israel is the same as Spiritual Israel - the same view that excuses murder because it is done by the hands of Jews of the flesh - As if they are above reproach because God gave them an arbitrary pass for any behavior because they are "His chosen people".
 
You should know that prophesy was upgraded after the appearing of the Son.

This is what Hebrews means:

"God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds..."

The Son spoke as Jesus and He continued speaking through the apostles and prophets as Christ by the Holy Spirit.

Jesus said as much: "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come."

So, this is the grace given to the writers of the New Testament: The Son now speaks directly to those who have the Holy Spirit in them. This is called "revelation" and is essential for life in the Spirit.

The opposite life is like the life of Judas, who saw Christ as a great leader who would fight against the Romans. THIS is the same carnal view of eschatology that says flesh Israel is the same as Spiritual Israel - the same view that excuses murder because it is done by the hands of Jews of the flesh - As if they are above reproach because God gave them an arbitrary pass for any behavior because they are "His chosen people".
1Cor3:20