Question in story of noah.

[Pilgrimshope]

So we are agreeing that the apostles are not liars. This is good.

Now two questions emerge.

1. Why does Paul warn women to keep long hair or cover their heads because of the angels?

2. In the Bible prior to the three apotles' lifetime is there an event recorded in the Bible in which angels forsook their habitation in the heavens and fell and were subsequently thrown into hell in chains of darkness where they can do nothing anymore until the great day of the Lord?

I have not put forth any theory.

Yes, it is a waste of your time to try to convince me of strange doctrines. I will not be convinced unless it can be proven that Jude, Peter, and Paul are liars. I will even say, I don't believe they are lying for their teachings fit the fullness of the scriptures.

sure you have I answered your question already quoted all three now you find one scripture that calls angels Gods sons. And you will be proven right but I perceive your not able to change what you have thought so yeah waste of time

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

sure you have I answered your question already quoted all three now you find one scripture that calls angels Gods sons. And you will be proven right but I perceive your not able to change what you have thought so yeah waste of time

Right I cannot change the truth of the scriptures for a doctrine of men so easily.

Also, you have not answered my questions, but perhaps have not seen them yet. I will say, there is actually an event that the three apostles refer to in the Bible, and this event can be found in the book of Genesis.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

So we are agreeing that the apostles are not liars. This is good.

Now two questions emerge.

1. Why does Paul warn women to keep long hair or cover their heads because of the angels?

2. In the Bible prior to the three apotles' lifetime is there an event recorded in the Bible in which angels forsook their habitation in the heavens and fell and were subsequently thrown into hell in chains of darkness where they can do nothing anymore until the great day of the Lord?

your turn to answer me now

“So we are agreeing that the apostles are not liars. This is good.”

I don’t think we are in agreement there your acting as if the scriptire I quoted from Hebrews is not from the apostles ? How do you answer the question posed here heres my question to you

“For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I’m sure you won’t but answer that question I’m of course not going to accuse you of calling them liars or anything but can you answer the question they posed there ????

when did he call angels his sons ? Ever ?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Right I cannot change the truth of the scriptures for a doctrine of men so easily.

Also, you have not answered my questions, but perhaps have not seen them yet. I will say, there is actually an event that the three apostles refer to in the Bible, and this event can be found in the book of Genesis.

naw you are one of those one sided folk you try to talk and not hear

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Right I cannot change the truth of the scriptures for a doctrine of men so easily.

Also, you have not answered my questions, but perhaps have not seen them yet. I will say, there is actually an event that the three apostles refer to in the Bible, and this event can be found in the book of Genesis.

you repeatedly said I was calling the apostles liars based on three scriptures that don’t say what your saying I did answer that I quoted all three and not one said what your saying it’s your own theory it doesn’t say it

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

your turn to answer me now

“So we are agreeing that the apostles are not liars. This is good.”

I don’t think we are in agreement there your acting as if the scriptire I quoted from Hebrews is not from the apostles ? How do you answer the question posed here heres my question to you

“For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I’m sure you won’t but answer that question I’m of course not going to accuse you of calling them liars or anything but can you answer the question they posed there ????

when did he call angels his sons ? Ever ?

The book of Job, the book of Daniel, the book of Genesis.

 

[CS1]

Since Genesis 3:15 and the promise of Satan’s downfall, Satan has been on the attack of the promise seed. When men began to multiply, he lost his target, so he began an all out attack on the seed of mankind by these perverted relationships. Genesis 5 is all about God preserving Himself a seed line that was not corrupted by the sons of God. Noah was in this line.

that serpent's seed doctrine from the pit

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

naw you are one of those one sided folk you try to talk and not hear

There can only be one right answer, there cannot be two ways about it, or else the scriptures' narrative would be broken.

 

[CS1]

I have not put forth any theory.

Yes, it is a waste of your time to try to convince me of strange doctrines. I will not be convinced unless it can be proven that Jude, Peter, and Paul are liars. I will even say, I don't believe they are lying for their teachings fit the fullness of the scriptures.

you have not put forth any bible either LOL

 

[CS1]

There can only be one right answer, there cannot be two ways about it, or else the scriptures' narrative would be broken.

the word of God is right.

As it states in the text.

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

you repeatedly said I was calling the apostles liars based on three scriptures that don’t say what your saying I did answer that I quoted all three and not one said what your saying it’s your own theory it doesn’t say it

No I asked you if you can prove them to be liars. There is a difference. Since you agree that they are not lying, then hence the two questions.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

The book of Job, the book of Daniel, the book of Genesis.

what scripture actually says it ???? Comon your bright you can answer a simple challenge one scripture calling angels Gods sons

I can show you ten calling man Gods sons beginning with Adam and reaching consists toy through scripture never straying to angels but remaining with men

can you show one scripture though ? You shows three that didn’t say what your saying but can you show one that actually does ?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

No I asked you if you can prove them to be liars. There is a difference. Since you agree that they are not lying, then hence the two questions.

I was never trying to prove you or them liars proving the apostles liars is a fools errand they aren’t but they still don’t say what you are saying do you believe them ?

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

you have not put forth any bible either LOL

Perhaps you missed my response to your question about where it calls angels the sons of God. To repeat; The books of Job, Daniel, and Genesis.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Perhaps you missed my response to your question about where it calls angels the sons of God. To repeat; The books of Job, Daniel, and Genesis.

lol ok

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

I was never trying to prove you or them liars proving the apostles liars is a fools errand they aren’t but they still don’t say what you are saying do you believe them ?

Exactly. Unless you can prove they are liars, then it becomes a matter of why they wrote that which they wrote, hence the two questions.

 

[CS1]

Perhaps you missed my response to your question about where it calls angels the sons of God. To repeat; The books of Job, Daniel, and Genesis.

context is an important friend. Elohim is also used to describe human beings as it is angels and God in Hebrew did God sleep with women? Did angels no, that is a theory that cannot be seen without innerjecting it into the text with other places where the context is not related. Sons of God in JOB have nothing to do with Genesis 6. Sodom has nothing to do with Genesis 6 other than MAN was destroyed.

 

[Gardenias]

that serpent's seed doctrine from the pit

Dangerous,will get you banned.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Perhaps you missed my response to your question about where it calls angels the sons of God. To repeat; The books of Job, Daniel, and Genesis.

Perhaps you missed my response to your question about where it calls angels the sons of God. To repeat; The books of Job, Daniel, and Genesis.

Perhaps you missed my response to your question about where it calls angels the sons of God. To repeat; The books of Job, Daniel, and Genesis.

“Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

did you recognize who it was that was made in Gods image ?

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27‬ ‭

that’s the children. And these are those spirits who were created to dwell
In the heavens minister to those children on earth

“Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The heirs are the children of the father mankind


Notice this part either ?

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels;

but he took on him the seed of Abraham.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Christ became a man not an angel because the children are men and not angels

 

[Gardenias]

No I asked you if you can prove them to be liars. There is a difference. Since you agree that they are not lying, then hence the two questions.

Are you a practicing Catholic?