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Prophecy warfare
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Yes. everything in 1 Cor 12:10, 1 cor 12:28, and Eph 4:11 are just as "Available", and "Relevant" now as they were then.
Simple as that.
Look all you've done is critically criticize me, pack it in.
I'm a busy working family man with limited time,
Quit your pettiness be a man and own up to your petty behaviour.
2 kings 9.22
22 And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, Is it peace, Jehu? And he answered, What peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many?
There you have it black and white,
Why Christians are embedded with the gift of prophecy (Jesus).
.The witchcraft sorcery is many among people.
Witchcraft is a spirit witch also.
Even men can have this she devil bitch in there head.
No you won't accept it, tare my post apart and criticize every sentence.
That's all you've done.
I don't answer to people who rip posts apart, or to petty authority.
So own up to your mistake and be a man.
I'm trying to understand this thread. If you feel that you have the gift of prophecy, just share your prophecy. It will either come to pass or not. Simply say...Thus saith the Lord...and tell us what God has shared with you.
We can see for ourselves whether it comes to pass. At that point, it will be clear whether you speak for God or not. It won't matter what people think or say.
We can see for ourselves whether it comes to pass. At that point, it will be clear whether you speak for God or not. It won't matter what people think or say.
As am I, but I don't waste my time making unbiblical claims about biblical subjects.
There is nothing in that passage supporting your claims.
Yes, they can. Think on that carefully. What is driving you to argue based on something that isn't in Scripture?
Yes, because you're "fundamentally" wrong and ignore or refuse correction.
The thread originator has made ONE BIG MISTAKE OF THIS TOPIC.
They chose to make a gift an idol. There is only one primary reason for all Prophecy. From Genesis to Revelation, that is the Lord Jesus Christ and all scripture that is given by the Inspiration of the Holy Spirit that carried alone holy men of old to write and speak what God wanted to say.
To verify those who speak under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit today, Christ is the Chief Corner Stone all must build on. NO OTHER.
If one says the Holy Spirit is speaking through me and Christ is not the center of that Speaking or Prophesying to comfort, exhort, build up AS Jesus said the Holy Spirit would do in the Gospel of John chapter 14:15-17, 25-26 & 15:26-27 and chapter 16:7-11, we read:
15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
25 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Chapter 15:26-27
26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. 27 And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning.
Chapter 16:7-11
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you;
but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
If one say they are speaking under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and Christ is not the chief reason by which they are speaking.
Everything every they say is meaningless. Jesus brings comfort, exhortation, and building up from the Holy Spirit. Prophecy without Christ is not prophecy at all.
Over-emphasizing the gifts of the Holy Spirit instead of a relationship with Christ and one that is to be setting themselves apart from the world is dangerous.
They chose to make a gift an idol. There is only one primary reason for all Prophecy. From Genesis to Revelation, that is the Lord Jesus Christ and all scripture that is given by the Inspiration of the Holy Spirit that carried alone holy men of old to write and speak what God wanted to say.
To verify those who speak under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit today, Christ is the Chief Corner Stone all must build on. NO OTHER.
If one says the Holy Spirit is speaking through me and Christ is not the center of that Speaking or Prophesying to comfort, exhort, build up AS Jesus said the Holy Spirit would do in the Gospel of John chapter 14:15-17, 25-26 & 15:26-27 and chapter 16:7-11, we read:
15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
25 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Chapter 15:26-27
26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. 27 And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning.
Chapter 16:7-11
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you;
but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
If one say they are speaking under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and Christ is not the chief reason by which they are speaking.
Everything every they say is meaningless. Jesus brings comfort, exhortation, and building up from the Holy Spirit. Prophecy without Christ is not prophecy at all.
Over-emphasizing the gifts of the Holy Spirit instead of a relationship with Christ and one that is to be setting themselves apart from the world is dangerous.
I agree, arguing over trivialities is pointless; you and I simply disagree over what is trivial. Debating things like who wrote the book of Hebrews or whether Jesus will return as a woman are a waste of time. However, when you start making claims of being a prophet sent from God and introducing into your posts false teachers like Gary Morgan and Joyce Meyer, it stops being trivial and needs to be called out. You call me trivial just to shut me up.
And I expressed all this in a previous thread. But yet now I'm worshiping a gift as idolatry,
This also comes of the back end of you understanding I was chasing a gift.
No I said,, if there is no holy spirit indwelled in a child of God no prophecy.
You and everyone else simply are not seeing what it is I'm saying.
I believe every Christian is blessed with the fruits of the holy spirit and also has the spirit of prophecy (Jesus) residing him them.
The op is just one reason to express why that is so.
It's called ringing bells.
It called hello believers surely you can see you have at least one of these attributes in the op, all you need to do is tap into the rest.
The spirit of prophecy is also real amongst the spiritual realm of wickedness, which I have clearly demonstrated.
This includes false hope.
Sourcery.
False visions.
Deception.
Untruths.
Lies.
False promises
Lying miracles.
In the last days both spiritual realms (good and bad) will poor out there prophecies upon man.
Even the servants of men and your sons and daughters will prophesize for the lord as written in the book of acts.
Why is this ?
Well it's obviously prophecy is an instrument tool used by both Good and evil.
What,,, Is God just going to leave all Christians without the ability to decipher prophecy from evil.
I say absolutely not. The gift of prophecy is used in many ways.
Judgement
Compassion.
True witness.
Restoration from one brother to another.
I say Surely all Christians have these attributes.
Is there any alarm bells ringing.
I can agree with you on that arguing over something trivial is pointless, like not expressing the word God enough in a phrase is pointless arguing over.
But I see you arguing over Joyce Meyer and Gary morgon as trivial.
Pointless everyone makes mistakes.
Digging deep in to history of a person to prove everything else they say is a lie, is like you saying your perfect and you'll never slip up. Pointless you will.
see your doing it again.
Your finding error in every sentence I write.
It's like you have some mental block, to prove your self right.
This is how your coming across to me.
It's a game your playing,
Your taking every sentence out of context, and your behaving how my child behaves.
Which is why daddy why.
Now the true troll shows its face....Look all you've done is critically criticize me, pack it in.
I'm a busy working family man with limited time,
Quit your pettiness be a man and own up to your petty behaviour.
2 kings 9.22
22 And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, Is it peace, Jehu? And he answered, What peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many?
There you have it black and white,
Why Christians are embedded with the gift of prophecy (Jesus).
The witchcraft sorcery is many among people.
Witchcraft is a spirit witch also.
Even men can have this she devil bitch in there head.
No you won't accept it, tare my post apart and criticize every sentence.
That's all you've done.
I don't answer to people who rip posts apart, or to petty authority.
So own up to your mistake and be a man.
Absolutely.... but not how you think.... they've been ringing for the past few weeks....
My advice to you is turn off your TV and quit being indoctrinate by all the false teachers there. And quit being indoctrinated by every false teacher you find on the internet. Open your Bible and do an honest search for truth.
@hornetguy
Then your alarm bells cause you to chase after someone you've called a troll, everyday for 3 weeks,
What a sad way to live your life.
I know what your alarm bells are, you have this little voice in your head, sayin oh here's another troll, I must save Christian chat.
Then your alarm bells cause you to chase after someone you've called a troll, everyday for 3 weeks,
What a sad way to live your life.