planting the seeds of the kingdom

[SonJudgment]

Well I was just going to put this in the Prayer section but it seems maybe it doesn't fit the section topic of a prayer request so I suppose this topic seems fitting enough. As the Lord God told me at the start of the year this is a year of blessings. Indeed already the Lord God has showered out his blessings in a very mighty way even on a national scale as we have detailed elsewhere and all have seen with the recent US election. Nevertheless instead of just resting on this harvest, let us reap out some more and finish the year out strong before the Lord gives us our next mission. If you want me to bless you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, then just apply here and I will bless you. All applications will be accepted no string attached, enemies and friends alike can apply, whether you love me or hate me, whether you're a saint or a sinner, you can apply and I will bless you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Limited time offer though, act fast before my Lord takes me away from your midst.

I will start with Mr. Blain since it seems to me the topic itself is a solicitation.

Glorious Father bless Blain that he may get his prayer to know the truth, and furthermore oh Lord, because the truth is a powerful thing that few can bear without being broken also bless Blain with strength. Yea Lord strengthen Blain both his soul as well as his body that when you cause him to know the truth he will be strong enough to bear it. Make Blain strong and cause him to know the truth for the glory and the might belongs to you oh God. May Blain be double blessed in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, amen.

 

[Aaron56]

Part of what is lacking on a public forum (and in churches) is the presence of elders. Everyone (myself included) is convinced, in their own mind, that what they understand about the scriptures is correct.

Unless what is being taught is obviously wrong, then more questions are warranted. It's an easy way to endeavor to be at peace with everyone.

 

[Blain]

Well I was just going to put this in the Prayer section but it seems maybe it doesn't fit the section topic of a prayer request so I suppose this topic seems fitting enough. As the Lord God told me at the start of the year this is a year of blessings. Indeed already the Lord God has showered out his blessings in a very mighty way even on a national scale as we have detailed elsewhere and all have seen with the recent US election. Nevertheless instead of just resting on this harvest, let us reap out some more and finish the year out strong before the Lord gives us our next mission. If you want me to bless you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, then just apply here and I will bless you. All applications will be accepted no string attached, enemies and friends alike can apply, whether you love me or hate me, whether you're a saint or a sinner, you can apply and I will bless you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Limited time offer though, act fast before my Lord takes me away from your midst.

I will start with Mr. Blain since it seems to me the topic itself is a solicitation.

Glorious Father bless Blain that he may get his prayer to know the truth, and furthermore oh Lord, because the truth is a powerful thing that few can bear without being broken also bless Blain with strength. Yea Lord strengthen Blain both his soul as well as his body that when you cause him to know the truth he will be strong enough to bear it. Make Blain strong and cause him to know the truth for the glory and the might belongs to you oh God. May Blain be double blessed in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, amen.

thank you for showing the spirit of Christ that is what I love to see and yes any blessings are welcomed. I also want to request prayer for this forum that Christs heart and love may flourish and overtake this place amen

 

[Blain]

Part of what is lacking on a public forum (and in churches) is the presence of elders. Everyone (myself included) is convinced, in their own mind, that what they understand about the scriptures is correct.

Unless what is being taught is obviously wrong, then more questions are warranted. It's an easy way to endeavor to be at peace with everyone.

elders? I never thought of that I wonder if having elders here might help keep things more balanced?

 

[Aaron56]

elders? I never thought of that I wonder if having elders here might help keep things more balanced?

By definition they would know everyone personally. On a public forum that is not possible.
In lieu of that, additional moderators could help eliminate the name calling and slandering by giving warnings and taking note of people who just want to be divisive.

"As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him..."

 

[Blain]

By definition they would know everyone personally. On a public forum that is not possible.
In lieu of that, additional moderators could help eliminate the name calling and slandering by giving warnings and taking note of people who just want to be divisive.

"As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him..."

I agree more mod's would help

 

[Cameron143]

There are a few elders here. They are characterized by the fruit that is displayed through them and the understanding and wisdom that they share. If you met them in person, you would find them to be gentle and hospitable, and their children well-behaved and respectful.

 

[Blain]

There are a few elders here. They are characterized by the fruit that is displayed through them and the understanding and wisdom that they share. If you met them in person, you would find them to be gentle and hospitable, and their children well-behaved and respectful.

Anyone in particular? I may bery well be friends with them

 

[Cameron143]

Anyone in particular? I may bery well be friends with them

If you PM me I'll share with you, but I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings publicly.

 

[SonJudgment]

thank you for showing the spirit of Christ that is what I love to see and yes any blessings are welcomed. I also want to request prayer for this forum that Christs heart and love may flourish and overtake this place amen

Don't thank me, Jesus is the one that will strengthen you and cause you to obtain the truth, believe in him and thank him for you shall be blessed. As for the forum, sorry, I am only supposed to bless those that apply, the forum is not a human, and it cannot apply for itself. Best I can do along those lines is to just bless anyone that posts here tagging or replying me applying for a blessing until I am taken away from your midst and the Lord tells me what he wants me to do next. I would give you some counsel here, don't worry about this forum or any forum or website for that matter, not that there is anything against them don't get me wrong, but just like don't worry about it if you know what I am saying. Everything on this Earth will come and go, but the Lord Jesus remains forever.

 

[studentoftheword]

To see everyone attacking each other like this......it grieves me and we need to be reminded how to act sometimes not that I have not made the same mistakes at time but accountability needs to be established soemetimes

as for doctrine yes having doctrine of truth is important but like I said without love there is no point. if we present truth then it doesn't come with slander or else it is not truth.

This is my view

Blain ----Not every person who calls themselves a Christian on this sight is a True Christian ---they are False Christians ----what they post will tell you that ----

And the Love that true Christians are to display is Agape ----which is a gift of the Spirit -----it is not a brotherly love ---it is an unconditional sacrificial Love ---that loves the unlovely ---not many have this Agape Love ---

Everyone today calls themselves a Christian ----you have to be able to discern who is and who isn't a True Christian ----Satan is very much alive on this sight ---so you can talk all you like about the name calling ---etc --etc ----the people who are bashing ---trashing ---and name calling are being influenced by a spiritual force --called Satan

If you left this sight for the name calling ----then your coming back is not going to stop that ----true Christians are not to judge worldly People who just use the name Christian because they are driven by Satan in their thinking ----who is a divider ---they are behaving like the World behaves ---so they are behaving rightly for living in this world driven by a Satanic force

True Christians are to Judge True Christians who may be going off the right track to try and bring them back to the right track ---

Paul says here
1 Corinthians 5:12

Amplified Bible
For what business is it of mine to judge outsiders (non-believers)?
Do you not judge those who are within the church [to protect the church as the situation requires]?

So your frustration level may get very high again on your return if your expecting better behaviour from all on this sight ----Just saying ----

Learn to discern who is posting ---A True Christian or a False Christian ----cause there are more than a few false Christians on this sight ----

I do believe that People who post False Doctrine should be called out as they are spreading false hope and sending people to their spiritual death --these people call themselves Christians but they peddle their own spin on God's word and lead people astray from the Faith ----and that is not acceptable in my view ----I will always expose their twisted doctrine --which comes from Satan not God ---

True Christians need to know God's word very well and research it and ask the Holy Spirit for understanding so they are can spot when a person is spewing out false Doctrine ---and can call the person out on their worldly Twisting of Scripture or ignorance of it's Spiritual meaning -----

From AI

calling out doctrines and leaders who stray from the truth is considered an important way to stand up for truth and protect the Body of Christ.
This is done in an effort to love Jesus Christ with all one's mind, and to ensure that every Christian doctrine is clearly defined and explained.

Here are some Bible passages that relate to calling out false teachers:

• 2 John 1:10
  "If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not welcome him".
  
  
• 1 Timothy 5:19–20
  Paul instructs that elders who persist in error should be rebuked in the presence of all.
  
  
• 2 Timothy 4:10
  Paul names destructive false teachers, including Demas, who "has deserted me".
  
  
• 1 Timothy 1:19–20
  Paul names destructive false teachers, including Hymenaeus and Alexander, who "have made shipwreck of their faith".
  
  
  2 Timothy 2:17
  Paul names destructive false teachers, including Hymenaeus and Philetus, whose "talk will spread like gangrene".
  
  I say -----So nasty name calling etc is not nice for True Christians to do as we are to Agape our enemies ---calling out people who are False Christians and spreading false Doctrine is something God approves of in this word as we are to uphold the truth of God's word and protect the Church from being lead astray ----
  
  

 

[Blain]

This is my view

Blain ----Not every person who calls themselves a Christian on this sight is a True Christian ---they are False Christians ----what they post will tell you that ----

And the Love that true Christians are to display is Agape ----which is a gift of the Spirit -----it is not a brotherly love ---it is an unconditional sacrificial Love ---that loves the unlovely ---not many have this Agape Love ---

Everyone today calls themselves a Christian ----you have to be able to discern who is and who isn't a True Christian ----Satan is very much alive on this sight ---so you can talk all you like about the name calling ---etc --etc ----the people who are bashing ---trashing ---and name calling are being influenced by a spiritual force --called Satan

If you left this sight for the name calling ----then your coming back is not going to stop that ----true Christians are not to judge worldly People who just use the name Christian because they are driven by Satan in their thinking ----who is a divider ---they are behaving like the World behaves ---so they are behaving rightly for living in this world driven by a Satanic force

True Christians are to Judge True Christians who may be going off the right track to try and bring them back to the right track ---

Paul says here
1 Corinthians 5:12

Amplified Bible
For what business is it of mine to judge outsiders (non-believers)?
Do you not judge those who are within the church [to protect the church as the situation requires]?

So your frustration level may get very high again on your return if your expecting better behaviour from all on this sight ----Just saying ----

Learn to discern who is posting ---A True Christian or a False Christian ----cause there are more than a few false Christians on this sight ----

I do believe that People who post False Doctrine should be called out as they are spreading false hope and sending people to their spiritual death --these people call themselves Christians but they peddle their own spin on God's word and lead people astray from the Faith ----and that is not acceptable in my view ----I will always expose their twisted doctrine --which comes from Satan not God ---

True Christians need to know God's word very well and research it and ask the Holy Spirit for understanding so they are can spot when a person is spewing out false Doctrine ---and can call the person out on their worldly Twisting of Scripture or ignorance of it's Spiritual meaning -----

From AI

calling out doctrines and leaders who stray from the truth is considered an important way to stand up for truth and protect the Body of Christ.
This is done in an effort to love Jesus Christ with all one's mind, and to ensure that every Christian doctrine is clearly defined and explained.

Here are some Bible passages that relate to calling out false teachers:

• 2 John 1:10
  "If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not welcome him".
  
  
• 1 Timothy 5:19–20
  Paul instructs that elders who persist in error should be rebuked in the presence of all.
  
  
• 2 Timothy 4:10
  Paul names destructive false teachers, including Demas, who "has deserted me".
  
  
• 1 Timothy 1:19–20
  Paul names destructive false teachers, including Hymenaeus and Alexander, who "have made shipwreck of their faith".
  
  
  2 Timothy 2:17
  Paul names destructive false teachers, including Hymenaeus and Philetus, whose "talk will spread like gangrene".
  
  I say -----So nasty name calling etc is not nice for True Christians to do as we are to Agape our enemies ---calling out people who are False Christians and spreading false Doctrine is something God approves of in this word as we are to uphold the truth of God's word and protect the Church from being lead astray ----
  

true enough there are false Christians on this site and satan is alive on this site like you said even so not all are false Christians some are just stuck in their own specific docytines that they are sure is truth but isn't some are just well... stubborn lol

So I made this thread to hopefully remind everyone who has forgotten who we are called to be. sometimes we need to be reminded and check ourselves. I like how you put it though agape love that is impressive of you

 

[studentoftheword]

even so not all are false Christians some are just stuck in their own specific docytines that they are sure is truth but isn't some are just well... stubborn

Can you give an example of what you are meaning here by them being True Christians and being stuck in their OWN Specific Doctrine ----because in my view if it is Their own specific doctrine then it is not God's doctrine ---and so they wouldn't be True Christians ----

Also we have to realize and understand that when one accepts Jesus as their Lord and Saviour they are a Babe in Christ feeding on milk ----their Spirit is renewed but their mind still thinks mainly like this world ---they do not have control over their emotions ---Your Emotions Control You and You take offense when criticized etc ---so tempers flare and name calling starts --and they do not ask the Holy Spirit to help them in their understanding of what the Scripture is really saying they are putting their own Spin on what they think the Scripture is saying ---Trying to mix the world's way of thinking with God's way ------being Double Minded ---unstable ----


The Carnal Christian will be on Milk till they decide to Mature in their Faith walk with Christ -----Most will die in their Carnal state ---you have to be hungry and thirsty to want to Mature in your walk to get to the point where YOU are in Control of your Emotions with the help of Christ in you -- -etc --and believe me that takes years and steadfastness in the Word Practicing when people come against you to keep your cool and be in peace and in self control ----

So I made this thread to hopefully remind everyone who has forgotten who we are called to be. sometimes we need to be reminded and check ourselves.

Never hurts to remind us who we are called to be ----but it takes discipline and stamina and hard work of being constantly in the Word and putting into practice what the Word says for us to have victory -----

For instance ----do these things in your everyday living --Faith in action --Practice ---practice and practice

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Here are some Bible verses that relate to changing your mind:

• Romans 12:2: This verse encourages people to renew their minds and be transformed from the inside out. It says, "Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind".
  
  
• Philippians 4:8: This verse suggests that when negative thoughts arise, people should counter them with God's Word and speak His truth.
  
  
• Isaiah 43:18-19: This verse tells people to forget the past and not dwell on it.
  
  
• Ephesians 4:23: This verse says, "Let the Spirit renew your thoughts and attitudes".
  
  
• Matthew 4:17: This verse is the central theme of Jesus' first sermon, where he challenged people to change their thinking

Self Control ----Practice =====

John Piper says this ----Self Control is not about bring ourselves under our own Control --but under the power of Christ ----


Psalm 141:3-4

Amplified Bible
3
Set a guard, O Lord, over my mouth;
Keep watch over the door of my lips [to keep me from speaking thoughtlessly].
4
Do not incline my heart to [consent to or tolerate] any evil thing,
Or to practice deeds of wickedness
With men who plan and do evil;
And let me not eat of their delicacies (be tempted by their gain).

Proverbs 14:29 ESV
Whoever is slow to anger has great understanding, but he who has a hasty temper exalts folly

2 Peter 1:6 ESV
And knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness,

Proverbs 17:27 ESV
Whoever restrains his words has knowledge, and he who has a cool spirit is a man of understanding.

1 Corinthians 9:25 ESV
Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable.

 

[Blain]

Can you give an example of what you are meaning here by them being True Christians and being stuck in their OWN Specific Doctrine ----because in my view if it is Their own specific doctrine then it is not God's doctrine ---and so they wouldn't be True Christians ----

Also we have to realize and understand that when one accepts Jesus as their Lord and Saviour they are a Babe in Christ feeding on milk ----their Spirit is renewed but their mind still thinks mainly like this world ---they do not have control over their emotions ---Your Emotions Control You and You take offense when criticized etc ---so tempers flare and name calling starts --and they do not ask the Holy Spirit to help them in their understanding of what the Scripture is really saying they are putting their own Spin on what they think the Scripture is saying ---Trying to mix the world's way of thinking with God's way ------being Double Minded ---unstable ----


The Carnal Christian will be on Milk till they decide to Mature in their Faith walk with Christ -----Most will die in their Carnal state ---you have to be hungry and thirsty to want to Mature in your walk to get to the point where YOU are in Control of your Emotions with the help of Christ in you -- -etc --and believe me that takes years and steadfastness in the Word Practicing when people come against you to keep your cool and be in peace and in self control ----



Never hurts to remind us who we are called to be ----but it takes discipline and stamina and hard work of being constantly in the Word and putting into practice what the Word says for us to have victory -----

For instance ----do these things in your everyday living --Faith in action --Practice ---practice and practice

AI Overview
Learn more

Here are some Bible verses that relate to changing your mind:

• Romans 12:2: This verse encourages people to renew their minds and be transformed from the inside out. It says, "Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind".
  
  
• Philippians 4:8: This verse suggests that when negative thoughts arise, people should counter them with God's Word and speak His truth.
  
  
• Isaiah 43:18-19: This verse tells people to forget the past and not dwell on it.
  
  
• Ephesians 4:23: This verse says, "Let the Spirit renew your thoughts and attitudes".
  
  
• Matthew 4:17: This verse is the central theme of Jesus' first sermon, where he challenged people to change their thinking

Self Control ----Practice =====

John Piper says this ----Self Control is not about bring ourselves under our own Control --but under the power of Christ ----


Psalm 141:3-4

Amplified Bible
3
Set a guard, O Lord, over my mouth;
Keep watch over the door of my lips [to keep me from speaking thoughtlessly].
4
Do not incline my heart to [consent to or tolerate] any evil thing,
Or to practice deeds of wickedness
With men who plan and do evil;
And let me not eat of their delicacies (be tempted by their gain).

Proverbs 14:29 ESV
Whoever is slow to anger has great understanding, but he who has a hasty temper exalts folly

2 Peter 1:6 ESV
And knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness,

Proverbs 17:27 ESV
Whoever restrains his words has knowledge, and he who has a cool spirit is a man of understanding.

1 Corinthians 9:25 ESV
Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable.

What I mean is that many who are Christians but are just stuck in their own doctrines is that not everyone holds to the truth because they were tuaght wrong or they grew up in a certain doctrine they may want to please God they may even consider themselves to be well versed in the word yet because they have no love in them they are Christian by title only.

To be lead to all truths requires love if one has love in their hearts then that will eventually lead them to truth and the correct doctrine but not doctrine as man has come to understand it but deeper hidden things. We speak of doctrine all the time yet with so much division and with so much hate towards each other because of this doctrine we say is truth but the other isn't to me doctrine no longer holds any meaning if it is just a word to describe a specific teaching one follows.

A true Christian will be lead by the spirit in the way they ought to go and in what to believe is truth, a true Christian desires truth more than water and will be willing to lay down everything they though they knew or understood in order to be lead to that truth.

But doctrine these days is nothing more than my truth vs your truth or this teaching vs that teaching this person vs that one that verse vs this verse slander mocking attackinh if we have truth in us then it doesn't produce these things

I have nothing against doctrine if it is in love but truth and doctrine have been so deluded that one can just pull a verse and declare themselves to be in the right it is thast easy and no argument ever gets resolved no debate ever produces good fruit and this for me at least is not good enough.

We can discuss things all day long but if it never shows the heart of Christ then it is not truth. and if one does not have the willingness to let go of their doctriens they hold so dear then are not really after the truth because in their minds they already have it but you will know them by their fruits.

 

[ResidentAlien]

We can discuss things all day long but if it never shows the heart of Christ then it is not truth. and if one does not have the willingness to let go of their doctriens they hold so dear then are not really after the truth because in their minds they already have it but you will know them by their fruits.

Doctrine is teaching. I have received much good teaching both from the Lord and from men. I won't be putting it aside anytime soon.

 

[Blain]

Doctrine is teaching. I have received much good teaching both from the Lord and from men. I won't be putting it aside anytime soon.

I am not saying to put it aside what I am saying is that doctrine without love will never be truth

 

[ResidentAlien]

I am not saying to put it aside what I am saying is that doctrine without love will never be truth

I can agree with that; but by the same token, love without sound teaching is not really love, or truth. The mantra of many religions and philosophies is "all you need is love." But they wouldn't know truth if it was right in front of them. I agree with one thing though, you can't argue anyone into accepting sound teaching.

" . . . that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ." Ephesians 4:14-15

 

[Blain]

I can agree with that; but by the same token, love without sound teaching is not really love, or truth. The mantra of many religions and philosophies is "all you need is love." But they wouldn't know truth if it was right in front of them. I agree with one thing though, you can't argue anyone into accepting sound teaching.

" . . . that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ." Ephesians 4:14-15

Love will always lead one to the truth but without love there is no truth in us. I am not talking about emotional feelings I am talking about the love that comes from Christ agape love anything from Christ will always circle back to him

 

[ResidentAlien]

Love will always lead one to the truth but without love there is no truth in us. I am not talking about emotional feelings I am talking about the love that comes from Christ agape love anything from Christ will always circle back to him

"Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth." John 17:17

Love is a big part of the truth; but it's not everything. You can't have love or truth without factoring God's word into the equation. You can't say I have Christ and His love therefore I have truth, end of story. His word (the Bible) and his teaching are also very important if one wants truth, the whole truth.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The crux of the matter is what is love? This can only be known through the spirit witnessing with the word to give a correct understanding, which is communicated to others via doctrine. Brotherly love is only a part of the equation.