Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths
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Sadly, our entire electoral system is but a huge joke these days.
But you're right. The fine against him is absurd, as is how media portrayed the bloodbath comment out of context.
Frankly I think he's right about delinquent NATO partners. Pay up or get out.
My argument against trump (and republicans in general) is portraying themselves as Christians when they clearly eschew basic Christian values. Which deceives believers into abandoning their basic Christian values. Which will, eventually, cost some of them their faith.
It's not his policies, it's where he claims his policies come from. They are not from God.
Unfortunately none of them do.
My vote is to make a statement, not promote a choice. Because there is no good choice.
Nor, according to scripture, should we expect one.
Well here's the problem. One IS actually worse than the other. And we have a chance to stop communism in this country we ought to do everything we can to do so. When peoples freedoms are being taken away, we need to stand against tyranny as was done years ago against Britain. This is a very serious time in American history, there is a difference between the two. It's a stark one and I can't see how some are missing it. I hope people sincerely seek the Lords will this time around. I hope people will be smart enough to vote against the radical left.
No, if they are going to steal the election it matters not how many people vote.
I think it was Karl Marx that said - It matters not who votes because what matters is who is counting the votes.
We know the one world government will eventually get here and take over most countries of the world,. so we're pretty much at that time now when things start seriously rolling in that direction.
The so called "white hat Christian patriots" are not going to stop this come coming forth.
So, people can vote all they won't and it's not going to stop this evil from coming forth.
Christians need to be making sharing the Gospel, making disciples, and preparing true believers to leave this world.
Voting "none of the above" sends a message, but the downside is they will not report what you voted, only the percentage of people voting and so all you accomplish is you lend credibility to the person elected. Notice, they report % of the vote. Suppose 36% votes one candidate, and 35% votes another, and 29% vote none of the above. They may simply ignore 29% vote and report that 50.7% of the vote went for one candidate and 49.3% for the other, and then say that turn out was strong, again ignoring a third of the voters or that the number of those who voted for the winning candidate was close to 16% of all registered voters.
However if those 29% of those who vote "none of the above" simply stayed home the message would still be "none of the above" but this time it would be much harder to ignore the low turnout or the very low number of people who voted for the winner.
Combine this comment with what you said in Post 84 and to me it undermines or all but negates your comment about Christians voting for Trump. If none of the candidates are an ideal choice for a Christian then it is unreasonable to condemn Christians for voting for one or the other on that criteria.
My attitude is that only Jesus brings salvation, that is not the job of an elected official. You vote for those who you think will best restrain evil. They are not saviors, at best they can be an instrument of righteousness.
I also believe all things are under the Lord's sovereignty and that includes Joe Biden's presidency. I feel the election was stolen, but like Mike Lindell it was done in such a blatant, brazen way that everyone must see it and those who refuse to admit it are willfully holding down the truth. It is the Lord's judgement on this country for rebelling against Him and the word of God.
The way the last election was stolen is after the polls close they can see who didn't vote and how many votes they need and then make phony ballots to change the outcome.
If more people had voted for the other candidate they have to make even more phony ballots and it is very possible they will run out. For example they claimed there was 100% voter turnout in Detroit. No one should believe that so this exposes the lies.
Also, when people come out of the polling stations we can have unofficial polls. If two thirds say they voted for one candidate and then they try and tell you the other one won no one will believe it.
Stealing an election only works if people believe it. They have been stealing elections since before the box 13 scandal. But they were believable, it was the result of moving the needle a few points in a swing state.
When you have to claim that a guy who stayed in the basement with dementia got 81 million votes, 12 million more than Barak Obama, then it is not believable.
It works because they show their candidate got more votes than the other guy.
This is what causes their candidate to win and then they destroy all the records.
There's really no way to stop this since the courts always side with the liberals.
It's looking like we will never have another repub prez, and soon we will never have either house of congress controlled by the repubs.
Once this is done, this nation will turn communist and all the "patriots" will do nothing.
Exactly.
We have sown to the flesh, and now we are reaping corruption (Gal 6:7,8)
One side threatens communism (rme). The other side threatens peoples faith.
Nah, I'm not voting for either.
Especially when scripture prophesies IT WILL BE THIS WAY AND WE NEED TO PREPARE NOT STOP IT.
Because you can't vote your way out from under prophesy.
You have a point there, but not voting at all is considered apathy, not protest. And they're going to divide the vote between the two major parties like you pointed out anyway, so whether you vote third party or not at all the numbers will be the same.
The real point is, we're not going to vote our way out from under prophesy. To think your abandoning Christian principals to save the world from 'communism' is fallacy.
They claim about themselves that they are "white hat Christian patriots" doing spiritual warfare
Sometimes they don't tell people this, but they think they are going to achieve world domination for Jesus so maybe they are part of the catholic cult as they too claim to be taking over the world for Jesus
They are freaky people no doubt about that.
Well, yes, voting is pretty moot at this point, even a protest vote. What's prophesied to happen will happen no matter how one votes, even a vote in protest.
But look at what's prophesied to happen:
A one world government
Christians thinking they can stop the one world government by voting 'for the lesser evil'
Christians voting for the lesser evil being duped into abandoning Christian mores
Some Christians taking it so far as to lose their faith.
THATS what it's really about. I don't want to see any of my brothers and sisters being duped and risking their faith by supporting the perceived 'lesser evil'
Because that's all it is, a perception. Or as scripture calls it, a deception