Outrageous bonds and bloodbaths
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Do you have inside info the rest of us don't have? We don't know where we are on God's timeclock. We've been talk about a one world gov't for years. I'm not voting to stop a one world gov't, I'm voting to stop the Marxist radical left from taking over the country completely.
Well a protest vote is no different than voting for the lesser evil. But that's not the reason why most are voting for Trump anyway. We see what's happening in the nation. That there is no free speech, that schools are being taken over by radical Marxists and teaching kids their parents are the enemies. We see taxes on food so high that people can't feed their children, the elderly have to choose between meds and food. We see leaders (so called) that support abortion to the point of infanticide. We see a literal invasion at the southern border. That's just a handful of reasons why people are voting for Trump. It has nothing to do with deception. And if you're going to vote, you ought to be supporting those of us in the trenches fighting, not just a more tame Biden follower. smh
This is an abortion supporters argument. I'm disappointed in you. Who is forcing women to have sex? How do you know how children will grow up? My grandmother raised five boys on her own and every one of them became successful parents, they all had jobs, none of them lived in poverty, all were upstanding citizens. But you're opinion is abortion is the better choice?! That's exactly what Margret Sanger believed.
If you look at stats you will find conservatives out give liberal on every subject, even conservation. Christians are more than twice likely to adopt. I have traveled in literally hundreds of churches. Almost every church has some kind of outreach into the community. Whether it be food, warm coats for winter, school supplies in the summer. Some do all of that. My own church supports local unwed mothers. Not only do most churches have an outreach into their community, they have a missionary they support, or more than one if they are a bigger church. Our small country church supports an orphanage in Haiti. As with our church and other churches, people who are able go and build schools and orphanages in these poor countries. Many of the bigger city church have soup kitchens for the homeless. In fact without the help of churches and their generous giving, a lot of people would be in a lot worse place than they are. So please be careful of how you speak of your brothers and sisters in Christ.
I think you need to get pass your own biased opinions and actually talk to some conservatives. You don't understand their POV, not at all.
Christians have been voting for years. Why all of a sudden is it wrong for Christians to vote for what is right and against what is wrong? No one has mentioned this before. So why is it a big deal now. Your furor is a wonderful thing, but not if it's uninformed and misdirected. You plan to vote and your vote will go to an imperfect person too. So that puts you in the same box as everyone else. And you'll only sound like a hypocrite trying to deny it. Because I can pick apart the person you're going to vote for too.
I'm gonna have to go with Cameron's view on this.
If you want to abstain for purely personal reasons like "I just don't want to participate", I guess that makes sense... at the very least it's your right to do so.
But the moment you try to rationalize it, and give some kind of justification for abstaining, the argument seems to immediately fall by it's own weight.
It's pretty hard to come up with a logical argument for not voting.
Final Thoughts:
1.) I don't think voter abstinence is a position that can win a debate, but it's certainly within someone's rights to abstain from voting.
2.) Conscience: even though I think it's a bad position; if you are sincerely convicted that abstaining is the thing that most pleases God, and you sincerely feel participating in an election is sinful... then you should go with your conscience. That would seem to be the biblical thing to do.
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Do you see how I said one thing and JTB twisted it round to mean something completely different to what
I'd said? Somehow me pointing out the truth of what I'd said to him makes me evil in his eyes, while he
refuses to admit his error or acknowledge his false accusations. So much hypocrisy it's disgusting.
Yeah, after pounding on all of us about the evil of all gov't, then to turn completely around and not expect to be called on it is rather immature. But I had that happen in another thread where I pointed out that they lied about their faith and they got bombastic. People usually lose it pretty fast in here when you point out they are being hypocritical, or twisting your words. But they don't mind doing it to you. smh
My posts to him had nothing to do with the government, although I have seen quite a few of his posts about it. He gave a link to something, so I briefly looked at it and said it needed editing. Twice he asked me about that, so it seemed he really wanted my input on the matter, and so I mentioned the spelling of a particular word, clarifying that it was fine if he was aiming to be folksy and informal, which he twisted to saying my meaning was that being folksy and informal was unChristian. So he basically took me saying it is okay to be folksy and informal to telling me I had claimed it was a sin. Unbelievable! And that was after me being very clear, that I had said no such thing. But no, off he goes, tearing me down and telling me what a rotten Christian I am because I stick to my original meaning and call him out on his error, which he refuses to acknowledge so he can use it as leverage to repeatedly falsely accuse me. I hadn't had much of any memorable back-and-forth with him before, so it came as a bit of a rude awakening surprise to find out how dishonest he was.
You and I have already discussed the steps I take to make sure I'm not twisting words or being hypocritical (as opposed to others who rely upon their own understanding). So no, you get the red X.
Yet somehow you twisted me saying, If your intention is to be informal and folksy, then there is not a problem
at all, to meaning being informal and folksy is un-Christian. However in the world did you manage that??? Then you went ahead ignoring what I'd said and using your lack of comprehension and refusal to admit your error, as a hammer to slander and slam me repeatedly, which was actually very hypocritical of you.