I am a man of God, and I long for there to be peace between you and me.But anyway, @Lightskin , I'm waving the peace flag.
Let's just shake hands and leave each other in peace.
Is that good with you?
No question we have been saved by Grace or God's undeserved kindness. There is no way we can earn salvation on our own merit. [Ephesians 2:8,9]. Saying that works in demonstration of our faith are important and required. [James 2:14,26].
There is no way we can earn salvation on our own merit.
Faith isnt inherent ability, it is instead the gift of God, 2 Peter 1:1. We aren’t saved by willing, deciding or choosing, I’ve shown this from Scripture.For the scripture saith, Whosoever [that includes me!] believeth on him shall not be ashamed (Romans 10:11).
There is a "you" in the gospel. He came to offer you eternal life if you chose to believe and continue in it.
Mark 4:
[24]...Take heed what ye hear: with what measure you use, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given. [25] For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him SHALL BE TAKEN EVEN THAT WHICH HE HATH.
And this scripture I cited just happens to follow the parable of the sower in the book of Mark.
even more interesting!
here are those who 'have not' -- and they 'have not' because something else was given to them!
they have a thing pronounced to them in order to prevent them from turning and being forgiven!
how uncanny that this all is spoken of as something done to mankind rather than something mankind chooses for himself!
do you think this has anything to do with the parable He's explaining to them? it's kind of like the sower is the one who chooses how the seed should be sown..
The OSAS topic is really interesting and I enjoy reading about different viewpoints on CC. I do believe that we can be turned away from God’s Kingdom even after we chose to serve Him.
The Bible teaches us that when we accept Jesus (our groom) we enter covenant with Him. In a Hebrew wedding when the bride accepted the groom’s proposal, the groom left to prepare the place where they will get married. Usually not longer than 2 years. Jesus left us to prepare a place and will return to get his bride (giving humanity more or less 2000 years). The Bible teaches us about the 10 virgins and it is clear to see that even those that were busy preparing themselves but were not ready will stay behind. Is that the definition of salvation lost? Of course not.
The interesting thing is that the groom, while preparing this chuppah (wedding chamber) left behind a witness. This witness/friend would make sure the bride was without spot or blemish and when the groom returned to take his bride if she was unfaithful the witness would testify against her (Holy Spirit).
The Bible teaches us that we are a royal priesthood, thus if we look at the royal priesthood we can look what God did to the priests in the Old Testament. The sons of Aaron were destroyed because Nadab and Abihu tried to ignite the brazen altar with strange fire. I never knew that God himself ignited that fire. These two priests tried to ignite the altar with manmade fire and were killed for doing it. God does not allow strange fire in His throne room and if we accept strange fire (different religions etc) God will spit us out because we are lukewarm. Not hot nor cold.
This also opened my eyes about Elijah’s boldness. It was nothing strange for the OT priests to expect God to light a fire and Elijah knew our Father’s works.
I hope this blessed you and let’s keep fighting the good fight.
God bless friends
Being able to rightly divide the word of truth, between those written to the Jews, and those written to the Gentiles, will clarify a lot of your points.
Jews are suppose to be a royal priesthood, but in the body of Christ, only Christ Jesus is our high priest.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
That was written to the diaspora (alienated) Tribes of Israel.
(1 Peter 1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who reside as aliens, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen)
That was written to the diaspora (alienated) Tribes of Israel.
(1 Peter 1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who reside as aliens, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen)
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
The Torah was not only written to the Jews my friend![]()
Thank you my friendI am part of Israel so it was written for me too.
Maybe we should narrow down what books I can quote on in future because I can’t use the OT and all of the sudden also not all of the NT?
What books can I keep in my Bible?
I have to say, I am intrigued![]()
Which tribe are you from?
Think again, Peter was writing to the Jews in his letters. read the very first verse in 1 Peter
Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To God’s elect, exiles scattered throughout the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia, 2 who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood:
The elect in the NT always refers to Jews.
If that is not enough, you can also refer to Galatians 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.