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JohnW34 said:
No clue what you are on about, and put mildly, not wasting my time on it.
Sounds like you are also a serpent seed follower then.
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You are the one making the accusation of "being a serpent seed" follower is in fact following a false doctrine. Please tell me where I am "misinterpreting" what is written?

From the Hebrew

So said Yhvh Elohim to the serpent because you have done this cursed you {are} more than all livestock and more than every beast of the field. On your belly you shall go and dust you shall eat all the days of your life

And enmity I will put between you and the woman and between your seed 2233 and her Seed 2233 and He shall bruise your head and you shall bruise His heel

Notice the Capitalization of the words.

2233 zera

a sowing, seed, offspring

of mankind - descendants, posterity, seed of the woman

I don't believe and study into the word of God to be a "wasting of your time".
 
BillG said:
You had a thought?
Did it hurt:cool:

It does when I do.

I have heard of the illuminate but not illuminate confirmed.
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pssst. they are listening so cannot say anymore, illuminate confirmed ...... lol
And yes my one brain cell needs a vacation, been doing too many thought press ups .....
 
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EleventhHour said:
I am concerned that you think he preaches sound doctrine.
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I stated my disagreement wit his position by stating positive rebuttals. In other words, I made positive statements that disagreed with the video. Instead of attacking him, I offered a rebuttal to his position by affirming what scripture teaches on the matter.

So what did I say that you disagree with?
 
JohnW34 said:
pssst. they are listening so cannot say anymore, illuminate confirmed ...... lol
And yes my one brain cell needs a vacation, been doing too many thought press ups .....
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Wish I had a brain cell.
I did have one once.
It went on vacation and never came back.
Didn't even get a postcard.
 
Discern said:
I stated my disagreement wit his position by stating positive rebuttals. In other words, I made positive statements that disagreed with the video. Instead of attacking him, I offered a rebuttal to his position by affirming what scripture teaches on the matter.

So what did I say that you disagree with?
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Okay all good.. maybe I missed something within all these posts.
 
NayborBear said:
Philippians 2:6
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

As for me believing Jesus is GOD HIMSELF? Jesus Himself wouldn't even make THAT claim!

Nah! There's only ONE jesus who thinks THAT!:
2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he AS God sitteth in the temple of God, SHEWING himself that he IS God.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man (wisdom of man) receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
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Thank you for BEING HONEST.

But You do not Worship the True GOD, the Holy Trinity, as I CERTAINLY DO.

Therefore, I can bypass every Post you make.


Zechariah 14:9 (HCSB)
9 On that day Yahweh will become King over all the earth—Yahweh alone, and His name alone.

Isaiah 43:10-12 (HCSB)
10 “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
11 I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.
12 I alone declared, saved, and proclaimed— and not some foreign god among you. So you are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and I am God.

Luke 2:11 (HCSB)
11 Today a Savior, who is Messiah the Lord, was born for you in the city of David.

John 8:58 (HCSB)
58 Jesus said to them, “I assure you: Before Abraham was, I am.” [.No Jew would have said that, because, that is the NAME OF GOD.]
John 8:59 (HCSB)
59 At that, they picked up stones to throw at Him. But Jesus was hidden and went out of the temple complex.

John 14:9-11 (HCSB)
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been among you all this time without your knowing Me, Philip? The one who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words I speak to you I do not speak on My own. The Father who lives in Me does His works.
11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me. Otherwise, believe because of the works themselves.

Colossians 2:9 (HCSB)
9 For the entire fullness of God’s nature dwells bodily in Christ,

2 Corinthians 5:19 (ASV)
19 to wit, that God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not reckoning unto them their trespasses, and having committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
 
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VCO said:
Thank you for BEING HONEST.

But You do not Worship the True GOD, the Holy Trinity, as I CERTAINLY DO.

Therefore, I can bypass every Post you make.


Zechariah 14:9 (HCSB)
9 On that day Yahweh will become King over all the earth—Yahweh alone, and His name alone.

Isaiah 43:10-12 (HCSB)
10 “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
11 I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.
12 I alone declared, saved, and proclaimed— and not some foreign god among you. So you are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and I am God.

Luke 2:11 (HCSB)
11 Today a Savior, who is Messiah the Lord, was born for you in the city of David.

John 8:58 (HCSB)
58 Jesus said to them, “I assure you: Before Abraham was, I am.” [.No Jew would have said that, because, that is the NAME OF GOD.]
John 8:59 (HCSB)
59 At that, they picked up stones to throw at Him. But Jesus was hidden and went out of the temple complex.

John 14:9-11 (HCSB)
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been among you all this time without your knowing Me, Philip? The one who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words I speak to you I do not speak on My own. The Father who lives in Me does His works.
11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me. Otherwise, believe because of the works themselves.

Colossians 2:9 (HCSB)
9 For the entire fullness of God’s nature dwells bodily in Christ,

2 Corinthians 5:19 (ASV)
19 to wit, that God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not reckoning unto them their trespasses, and having committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
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Also Isaiah said that YHWH by Himself created all things, and the apostles taught that all things were made through the pre-existent Jesus. If Jesus is not YHWH, along with Father and Spirit, how can it be said that YHWH created all things by Himself, when the scripture teaches Father, Son, and Spirit created.

Also, in Revelation, Jesus called Himself the First and the Last which is a title of Deity.
 
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Lightskin said:
I love the sound of distant train whistles in the morning, especially when reading Scripture and enjoying a good cup of coffee. 🚂 ☕️
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Hahhahah me....sitting in Westfield Plaza in Penrith AU burning 3 free hours of Wifi on CC hahahahah and the back ground noise, mall sounds with people and music from the 80's right now You Can't Touch This hahahhahah
 
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Melach said:
so how can john 5:24 be true then? they didnt really "not come into judgment" in your view?

just seems like the NOSAS salvation plan really sucks hard. you are always just shaken to the core never knowing you are saved in constant anxiety and fear because its all based on your performance so once you sin you think oh no am i still saved and either you try harder next time or you just fall deeper into sin thinking i lost my salvation anyway.

i will keep my eternal security thanks much. i know from experience what works salvation is, no peace and i see so many christians around me in that same state miserable people.

i wish we would all read the bible the same way. its a big book so you can make the bible say whatever you want it to say really
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It does lead to the same conclusions when viewed in context, honesty and a willingness to accept truth
 
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star said:
Another comfort I find is that I can kneel down and pray directly to God because the Veil was torn and ripped apart because my Savior was crucified, died, arose from the grave to defeat death and that with such action He provided a direct link from we believers to Him. Praise God from whom all blessings flow.
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Amen......and he ever stands to mediate.....!!
 
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DeighAnn said:
You are the one making the accusation of "being a serpent seed" follower is in fact following a false doctrine. Please tell me where I am "misinterpreting" what is written?

From the Hebrew

So said Yhvh Elohim to the serpent because you have done this cursed you {are} more than all livestock and more than every beast of the field. On your belly you shall go and dust you shall eat all the days of your life

And enmity I will put between you and the woman and between your seed 2233 and her Seed 2233 and He shall bruise your head and you shall bruise His heel

Notice the Capitalization of the words.

2233 zera

a sowing, seed, offspring

of mankind - descendants, posterity, seed of the woman

I don't believe and study into the word of God to be a "wasting of your time".
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Are you a serpent seed follower? Yes or no.....just a simple answer will suffice.....no need to tap dance, do the jig or ring around the rosies
 
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Melach said:
i opt out of existance if i could choose i would never be born. i have already been through so many unfortunate situations.

do you know of a guy called origen? he speculated about pre-existence of souls i know thats not biblical anywhere. but i understand how he thought about it because to be born is such a punishment that you think that maybe i did something as a soul to be sent here to suffer in the flesh.

even the guys who have the best rich wealthy healthy life still go through hardships in this life.
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Imagine being Secret Service for hillary clinton. Talk about a miserable existence.
 
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