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Oooooohhhhh PS the O.T. God denier just red x'ed a valid truthful post......I am sooooo offended by this salvation loser and the fact he peddles JEEZUS......the modern version of just another false god....

Jesus saves eternally pal.....better wise up!
 
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dcontroversal said:
David was........you and your salvation losing pals need to actually trust JESUS before it is too late.....serious.......bad day coming for you guys
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So throw the commandments in the bin, ignore the teaching of Jesus, feel free to commit murder and all will be well. You have a vile and ungodly religion.
 
dcontroversal said:
No need...You block people so they cannot go and grab what you say and bring it to light
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I said repeatedly I did not read all of his posts, and if he said the things eleventh hour said he said, then he was in serious error. I also disputed him on many points. So you, sir, are mistaken.

Anyone can go back and read my posts and see I do not believe what you claim I believe.
 
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Discern said:
Please tell me what save means in James 2:14. Paul compares dead faith to devil’s belief. You believe there is one God...the devils believe and tremble”

Works have nothing to do with salvation. But spiritual life does

Spiritual life is not dead
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I just want to clarify ... I agree spiritual life is not dead, ... but my point was spiritual life needs to be shown outwardly, words, actions to be known not as proof but as what we should do.
 
Discern said:
I said repeatedly I did not read all of his posts, and if he said the things eleventh hour said he said, then he was in serious error. I also disputed him on many points. So you, sir, are mistaken.

Anyone can go back and read my posts and see I do not believe what you claim I believe.
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See....I never said anything about what you believe....I said you were defending a false pusher of dogma that is heretical.........I called you on it, 11th called you on it, several others....just be honest....how hard is that......if not...just forget it....end of story
 
VCO said:
What do you mean, your post made NO sense to me ? ? ?

If you are Questioning the FACT that some Disciples are not SAVED, that is obvious. The GREEK WORD only means a follower, not a Saved Follower.

John 6:66 (NIV)
66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.


The were NEVER Born Again, therefore they were NEVER SAVED, and still JOHN called the disciples which only means Follower, which has no length of TIME involved with it, even for a short time, and no longer followed him.

Therefore OSAS, is STILL RELEVANT TO ALL BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS, because they were sealed by the HOLY SPIRIT.

This VERSE IS RELEVANT TO ALL who have RECEIVED HIM AS LORD which means MASTER:


1 Corinthians 12:13 (HCSB)
13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.


That is exactly what the unsaved disciples were LACKING.
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Sorry I think I misunderstood ..... I agree not all disciples are saved.
 
dcontroversal said:
See....I never said anything about what you believe....I said you were defending a false pusher of dogma that is heretical.........I called you on it, 11th called you on it, several others....just be honest....how hard is that......if not...just forget it....end of story
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Produce the smoking gun. Do you know how to do searches?
 
dcontroversal said:
See....I never said anything about what you believe....I said you were defending a false pusher of dogma that is heretical.........I called you on it, 11th called you on it, several others....just be honest....how hard is that......if not...just forget it....end of story
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If I knowingly defend something that someone said that implies I believe it. Why are you back peddling?
 
Discern said:
Produce the smoking gun. Do you know how to do searches?
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Discern said:
I have a higher view of him, brother. From reading his posts, he seems to genuinely trust and love the Lord. He believes that we are saved by Grace and kept by the power of God through faith. That is enough for me to call him “brother”
 
dcontroversal said:
Discern said:
I have a higher view of him, brother. From reading his posts, he seems to genuinely trust and love the Lord. He believes that we are saved by Grace and kept by the power of God through faith. That is enough for me to call him “brother”
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That is the way I understood the limited number of posts that I read. Where did I defend maintaining salvation? Where is it in that post?

It’s not there. You are Wrong, sir!

You are making a fool of yourself
 
Discern said:
I have a higher view of him, brother. From reading his posts, he seems to genuinely trust and love the Lord. He believes that we are saved by Grace and kept by the power of God through faith. That is enough for me to call him “brother”


Call one that states we can lose salvation, that we can lose being justified and that Christ will quit mediating for us......says a LOT about one's true stance!
 
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