Not By Works

[VCO]

Has everyone remembered to pray for the people of the Bahamas today. They got hit today with a Cat 5 Hurricane, with winds up to 225 mph.

 

[dcontroversal]

Has everyone remembered to pray for the people of the Bahamas today. They got hit today with a Cat 5 Hurricane, with winds up to 225 mph.

God has his way in the whirlwind <----look that word up...but I did pray for his will to be done......just saying

 

[Melach]

im reading the news and in my country they say this hurricae dorian is the worst in recorded history. they lie to us alot so i dont know if its the worst but looks bad. 80meters per second winds huge. God keep them safe please amen.

i want to ask if u think its got to do with end times? i used to say no and i was skeptical but lets just be real the world is gone crazy the animals people weather. more disasters bigger disasters, hotter than ever, colder than ever

i think its clear Jesus is coming soon i can see times and seasons. i cant afford or honest to be skeptical anymore

 

[VCO]

Interesting since there are many people who are born again and have never heard of lordship salvation doctrine?

The one where two stipulations are in place to be saved, which is wrong.

Scripture teaches one way to be saved.

And Jesus is Lord.

What I find very interesting how the exact some accusation comes up each time.

If Jesus Christ is not the Lord and Master of your life, He is NOT your Saviour.

The promise to make Jesus master of one's life at the point of conversion then makes salvation not by grace.

I hold to the simplicity in the Gospel in Christ Jesus

It is the Gospel of Grace not the Gospel of Lordship/Performance

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." —John 3:16

A Gospel which requires a person to make Christ the Master of his life to be saved—is not biblical!
Again that makes the Gospel based on our promise to Him.

"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."

You Look at these verses and YOU tell me when He becomes your SAVIOR, Before or After receiving HIM AS LORD.

Romans 10:9-10 (HCSB)
9 If you confess {has to have already taken place in your heart, for it to be a CONFESSION, otherwise it is ONLY A PROFESSION,} with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” {NASB words that "JESUS AS LORD"} and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 One believes with the heart, resulting in righteousness, and one confesses with the mouth, resulting in salvation.

Colossians 3:15 (HCSB)
15 And let the peace of the Messiah, to which you were also called in one body, control your hearts. Be thankful.

Matthew 25:23 (ESV)
23 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’

Matthew 6:24 (HCSB)
24 “No one can be a slave of two masters, since either he will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot be slaves of God and of money.


Don't you know that the WORD LORD, MEANS MASTER.

 

[cv5]

Interesting since there are many people who are born again and have never heard of lordship salvation doctrine?

The one where two stipulations are in place to be saved, which is wrong.

Scripture teaches one way to be saved.

And Jesus is Lord.

What I find very interesting how the exact some accusation comes up each time.

If Jesus Christ is not the Lord and Master of your life, He is NOT your Saviour.

The promise to make Jesus master of one's life at the point of conversion then makes salvation not by grace.

I hold to the simplicity in the Gospel in Christ Jesus

It is the Gospel of Grace not the Gospel of Lordship/Performance

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." —John 3:16

A Gospel which requires a person to make Christ the Master of his life to be saved—is not biblical!
Again that makes the Gospel based on our promise to Him.

"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."

True salvation requires that you receive Christ Jesus for who he really is....Lord. He was is and ever will be Lord. Failure to receive Christ as Lord is another gospel.

 

[dcontroversal]

You Look at these verses and YOU tell me when He becomes your SAVIOR, Before or After receiving HIM AS LORD.

Romans 10:9-10 (HCSB)
9 If you confess {has to have already taken place in your heart, for it to be a CONFESSION, otherwise it is ONLY A PROFESSION,} with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” {NASB words that "JESUS AS LORD"} and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 One believes with the heart, resulting in righteousness, and one confesses with the mouth, resulting in salvation.

Colossians 3:15 (HCSB)
15 And let the peace of the Messiah, to which you were also called in one body, control your hearts. Be thankful.

Matthew 25:23 (ESV)
23 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’

Matthew 6:24 (HCSB)
24 “No one can be a slave of two masters, since either he will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot be slaves of God and of money.


Don't you know that the WORD LORD, MEANS MASTER.

LORD, LORD have we NOT DONE <---they claimed him as LORD..............

Romans 10 written unto saved, immersed church members
Colossians 3 written to saved, immersed church members
Matthew 25 a parable written unto saved immersed church members
Matthew 6 nothing to do with being saved, but who one serves.....

 

[dcontroversal]

True salvation requires that you receive Christ Jesus for who he really is....Lord. He was is and ever will be Lord. Failure to receive Christ as Lord is another gospel.

Receiving Christ as savior is based upon simple faith....making Him Lord of one's life is a process of growth and maturity.....

He that believes on the SON is having everlasting life......

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten SON, whosoever believes on him "AS LORD" shall not be perishing, but is having everlasting life.

The point is obvious......YES we are to acknowledge him AS Lord and God, but not dogmatically to be born from above....there are scriptures that go both ways........

Is the bolded in John 3:16?

 

[dcontroversal]

Another thing.......Is he not both LORD of the LIVING (saved) and the DEAD (lost)

 

[cv5]

Receiving Christ as savior is based upon simple faith....making Him Lord of one's life is a process of growth and maturity.....

He that believes on the SON is having everlasting life......

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten SON, whosoever believes on him "AS LORD" shall not be perishing, but is having everlasting life.

The point is obvious......YES we are to acknowledge him AS Lord and God, but not dogmatically to be born from above....there are scriptures that go both ways........

Is the bolded in John 3:16?

My point is that there are those that willfully refuse to make Jesus Lord, despite a profession. And it is obvious.

 

[VCO]

Pre-trib does not jive with scripture..........and the thing that makes me chuckle....those that divide his coming into two separate events...

was
is
is to come

ALL things must jive with one coming (body presence)

Pre-trib, squares 100% in my Bible. So maybe you are called to organize the Tribulation Saints. I am going in the first phase, I know it as sure as I know HIM.

 

[blue_ladybug]

 

[Melach]

Pre-trib, squares 100% in my Bible.

dear friend maybe you can make a topic of it and we can discuss it. i wish it were true as well.
dont we all?

 

[UnderGrace]

My view on the gospel is clear....there is one correct message...if it is corrupted by a losable salvation or salvation that can be forfeit...it was a false through and through.....

ON anoth

You Look at these verses and YOU tell me when He becomes your SAVIOR, Before or After receiving HIM AS LORD.

Romans 10:9-10 (HCSB)
9 If you confess {has to have already taken place in your heart, for it to be a CONFESSION, otherwise it is ONLY A PROFESSION,} with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” {NASB words that "JESUS AS LORD"} and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 One believes with the heart, resulting in righteousness, and one confesses with the mouth, resulting in salvation.

Colossians 3:15 (HCSB)
15 And let the peace of the Messiah, to which you were also called in one body, control your hearts. Be thankful.

Matthew 25:23 (ESV)
23 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’

Matthew 6:24 (HCSB)
24 “No one can be a slave of two masters, since either he will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot be slaves of God and of money.


Don't you know that the WORD LORD, MEANS MASTER.

I know this without any doubt, I am saved by grace through faith in the finished work of Christ Jesus.

And it is not a QUID PRO QUO.... it is completely by grace.

The real question is do you know what Grace means?

 

[UnderGrace]

Receiving Christ as savior is based upon simple faith....making Him Lord of one's life is a process of growth and maturity.....

He that believes on the SON is having everlasting life......

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten SON, whosoever believes on him "AS LORD" shall not be perishing, but is having everlasting life.

The point is obvious......YES we are to acknowledge him AS Lord and God, but not dogmatically to be born from above....there are scriptures that go both ways........

Is the bolded in John 3:16?

Amen ... Following Jesus Christ is a matter of DISCIPLESHIP, and not SALVATION. Eternal life is a free gift (Romans 5:15; 6:23; Ephesians 2:8-10)

Hence, to believe on Christ is to trust THE LORD.

We do not make Jesus Lord of our lives to receive salvation.

End of story.

Teachings I abhor... losable salvation and lordship salvation

 

[star]

AMEN and Praise God for His mercy

Amen

 

[star]

This year has been a challenge for my husband and me. You know what Satan is whispering in my ear? "You are doing this. You aren't doing that. God is mad at you. You aren't doing enough work for Him."

Sound familiar? Satan is alive and well in our world today like never before.

 

[VCO]

Has everyone remembered to pray for the people of the Bahamas today. They got hit today with a Cat 5 Hurricane, with winds up to 225 mph.

No Deaths on the Islands of the Bahamas. Praise the LORD. It was the hardest they have ever been hit.

 

[VCO]

dear friend maybe you can make a topic of it and we can discuss it. i wish it were true as well.
dont we all?

Already did about 6 years ago. Here is the Link if you want to check it out.

THE CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE, to go to The Wedding of the Lamb
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...bride-to-go-to-the-wedding-of-the-lamb.95283/

 

[VCO]

Amen ... Following Jesus Christ is a matter of DISCIPLESHIP, and not SALVATION. Eternal life is a free gift (Romans 5:15; 6:23; Ephesians 2:8-10)

Hence, to believe on Christ is to trust THE LORD.

We do not make Jesus Lord of our lives to receive salvation.

End of story.

Teachings I abhor... losable salvation and lordship salvation

Let's Hear what YOU think is Lordship Salvation ? ? ?

 

[UnderGrace]

Let's Hear what YOU think is Lordship Salvation ? ? ?

Well there are many variations... but it does start with making Jesus Lord of your life at the point of ... and part of salvation.