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[QUOTE="VCO, post: 4004363, member: 178202". I have not been Drunk since the early 80's.

Late 80's for me. Gave it up for good in 1992.

1Timothy 5:23
No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent infirmities.

When I reach this stage I might drink a long ice-cold one. Maybe a couple.[/QUOTE]

When I fly to and fro from America and or Australia....I am Gold Class with Qantas...I sit down and they bring me champagne......usually two or three HAHAH......and every once in a while I might have a vodka orange on ice.....but never drunk or even buzzed really....well....maybe a teensy weensy bit with the champagne
 
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Scripture says hard drink and drunkenness is prohibited.
The last time I got drunk was in the late 80''s and gave alcohol up for good in 1992.

1Timothy 5:23
No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent infirmities.

When I reach this stage I might drink a long ice-cold one. Maybe a couple.
 
The last time I got drunk was in the late 80''s and gave alcohol up for good in 1992.

1Timothy 5:23
No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent infirmities.

When I reach this stage I might drink a long ice-cold one. Maybe a couple.

You put ice in wine?
 
You put ice in wine?
Well, no. I was referring to beer. I guess that I extrapolated Paul's counsel just a tad but it was obvious that he didn't have anything against alcohol in general, in moderation of course. In reality, I probably will not be drinking alcohol the rest of my life. It is just a personal choice of mine and nothing really spiritual about it. I originally quit drinking to set a good example for my older brother who has been an alcoholic his entire adult life. I love alcohol but I chose not to drink. One day I would love to be able to say "I love nicotine but I chose not to smoke". As you must know by now, I am an addict and nicotine is my drug of choice.
 
Late 80's for me. Gave it up for good in 1992.

1Timothy 5:23
No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent infirmities.

When I reach this stage I might drink a long ice-cold one. Maybe a couple.

When I fly to and fro from America and or Australia....I am Gold Class with Qantas...I sit down and they bring me champagne......usually two or three HAHAH......and every once in a while I might have a vodka orange on ice.....but never drunk or even buzzed really....well....maybe a teensy weensy bit with the champagne[/QUOTE]

I will say that sounds like the right way to travel... especially on a long trip!!
 
Jesus was not called a wine bibber because he drank grape juice........!!

Jewish wine is a LQW Alcohol Wine. Here is a label, showing it's Alcohol content, BUT THIS a bit High at 6%.
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It usually is around 3% alcohol, if I remember Right.
American wine is around 14% alcohol.

Wikipedia:
Kosher wine
. . . .
Almost all Jewish holidays, especially the Passover Seder where all present drink four cups of wine, on Purim for the festive meal, and on the Shabbat require obligatory blessings (Kiddush) over filled cups of kosher wine that are then drunk. Grape juice is also suitable on these occasions.


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About the product

  • Two 750ml bottles of Ariel Cabernet Non-alcoholic wine
  • Non-alcoholic yet full flavored red wine
  • Fermented and aged in the traditional red wine method
  • Alcohol is gently removed by cold filtration
  • Contains less than 0.5% alcohol by volume

See, they remove the alcohol by Cold Filtration, what ever that is.

So Jewish actual Kosher Wine, is still MUCH Lower in Alcohol than the rest of the world.
 
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Well, no. I was referring to beer. I guess that I extrapolated Paul's counsel just a tad but it was obvious that he didn't have anything against alcohol in general, in moderation of course. In reality, I probably will not be drinking alcohol the rest of my life. It is just a personal choice of mine and nothing really spiritual about it. I originally quit drinking to set a good example for my older brother who has been an alcoholic his entire adult life. I love alcohol but I chose not to drink. One day I would love to be able to say "I love nicotine but I chose not to smoke". As you must know by now, I am an addict and nicotine is my drug of choice.

Nicotine is very, very addictive I have been told.
 
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When I fly to and fro from America and or Australia....I am Gold Class with Qantas...I sit down and they bring me champagne......usually two or three HAHAH......and every once in a while I might have a vodka orange on ice.....but never drunk or even buzzed really....well....maybe a teensy weensy bit with the champagne

I will say that sounds like the right way to travel... especially on a long trip!![/QUOTE]

The only way to travel HAHAHHA ;)
 
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Jewish wine is a LQW Alcohol Wine. Here is a label, showing it's Alcohol content, BUT THIS a bit High at 6%.
epn27plbmxthr85vy4qz.jpg



It usually is around 3% alcohol, if I remember Right.
American wine is around 14% alcohol.

Wikipedia:
Kosher wine
. . . .
Almost all Jewish holidays, especially the Passover Seder where all present drink four cups of wine, on Purim for the festive meal, and on the Shabbat require obligatory blessings (Kiddush) over filled cups of kosher wine that are then drunk. Grape juice is also suitable on these occasions.


41q0U%2BSJeVL.jpg

About the product

  • Two 750ml bottles of Ariel Cabernet Non-alcoholic wine
  • Non-alcoholic yet full flavored red wine
  • Fermented and aged in the traditional red wine method
  • Alcohol is gently removed by cold filtration
  • Contains less than 0.5% alcohol by volume

See, they remove the alcohol by Cold Filtration, what ever that is.

So Jewish actual Kosher Wine, is still MUCH Lower in Alcohol than the rest of the world.

I like a WHITE sweet Moscato and for sure NO YEASTY taste....gag......
 
Would it not be better, to go by the law. And understand you ARE unrighteous. So WHY is WHY you need to be saved?

And after we are saved, would it not be better to realize that you STILL are not righteous an focus on walking towards that goal by doing it Gods way (seeking after the spirit and LOVE) on a daily basis (paul called it to run the race) and not get to cokcy and think you have ever made it?

I think I’m misunderstanding here EG, but truth is we are set apart for His glory. So we are righteous in Him. If it’s imputed by God, there is no higher court that would rule us as unrighteous.

And I don’t say I sin daily. I say I miss the mark of perfection on a daily basis, but I don’t choose sin. Sometimes my temper flares up and I act....which grieves me.

His glory in my opinion is His presence. We seek this.
 
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Well, no. I was referring to beer. I guess that I extrapolated Paul's counsel just a tad but it was obvious that he didn't have anything against alcohol in general, in moderation of course. In reality, I probably will not be drinking alcohol the rest of my life. It is just a personal choice of mine and nothing really spiritual about it. I originally quit drinking to set a good example for my older brother who has been an alcoholic his entire adult life. I love alcohol but I chose not to drink. One day I would love to be able to say "I love nicotine but I chose not to smoke". As you must know by now, I am an addict and nicotine is my drug of choice.
I quite the nicotine habit about 4 years ago. If you really want to quite, Chantix helped me,, After 35 years. I needed all the help I could get.