Strawman alert! Strawman alert!
Do you want a hat for your strawman or a match to burn it. Might be fun to watch.
Not By Works
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Strawman alert! Strawman alert!
Do you want a hat for your strawman or a match to burn it. Might be fun to watch.
1 Corinthians 13:4
Love is patient, love is kind, love is not envious, it is not boastful, it is not puffed up.
Judge not, lest ye be judged. You don't know my heart, Maestro
2 Corinthians 4:1-2
Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
In case you were unaware, which you probably were, that was an attack on his arguments, not DC himself.
Scarecrow is a word I use in place of the BOOGEYMAN argument.
A strawman is a deliberately misrepresentation of another person's argument in order to avoid their real argument.
Again for the workers for and deceivers that state works are required for salvation....
But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness
But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness
SO then why are you handling the Word of God deceitfully. The Word of God is not a hammer to try to hammer other people over the head.
2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Yes, and the scripture is not given for false accusations. You accuse me of being puffed up for quoting Luke. WOW!
Don't quote scriptures that contradict Gracethroughfaith's traditions, or he will say you are puffed up.Meanwhile, DC is asking where he transposed Paul unto John, and I have put the incident in 101,655, where you can see it for yourself.
Check it out, it's right above this one
AMEN and the following truths were inspired by God and NOTE...no works mentioned....but hey....the deceivers must interject works into the mix.....NOT one verse states that any work beyond BELIEVING is required to be saved..........salvation is a ONE off ETERNAL event based entirely upon grace, faith and the work of CHRIST on our behalf.
But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness
NOT by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy has he saved us
In the grace we are, having been saved out of faith, and that not of ourselves, it is the gift of God and not of works lest any man should boast
He that believes on the SO is having everlasting life
It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe
OKAY, you would have a valid charge against me if I ever denied anything you just said, but of course, I did not deny any of those things.
Yes, and the scripture is not given for false accusations. You accuse me of being puffed up for quoting Luke. WOW!
Meanwhile, DC is asking where he transposed Paul unto John, and I have put the incident in 101,655, where you can see it for yourself.
Check it out, it's right above this one
"you, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself?"
Ephesians 4:31
Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice.
Sure, I agree with everything you just said, and nothing I have said is contrary to that and everything I have said is in agreement with that. SO what's your point and who are you addressing.
Or do you not know the difference between salvation produces works (which is what I am stating) and works produce salvation (which is what I am not saying)
You need to light a match and burn all your strawman and develop a valid argument, because everything you say is irrelevant. Same with your buddy, forgot his name there.