The context is that a person WHO HAS BEEN SAVED is no longer to walk in the old man, is no longer a slave to sin, and is now a new creature and is a slave to CHRIST ALONE.
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The context is that a person WHO HAS BEEN SAVED is no longer to walk in the old man, is no longer a slave to sin, and is now a new creature and is a slave to CHRIST ALONE.
And who said otherwise? Did you not READ what perserverance actually teaches?
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UnderGrace
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HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHA----->and interact with people that actually have the issue of "the security of the believer" right.
WOW............he has jokes
WOW............he has jokes
He has the gall to say ---->and interact with people that actually have the issue of "the security of the believer" right.
No wonder most have him on ignore
If you think I care about popularity, you got the wrong man. The truth is NEVER popular, not even among professed Christians
Which I don't believe, and the fact that you keep saying that means you are not reading my posts.
A person who claims to be a christian should check themselves so that they are not deceiving themselves , for my spirit knows this what the bible tells me in Romans 8:16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.
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UnderGrace
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Now why would I go and do that? I prefer to focus on Christ Jesus rather than my perseverance
Jesus tells me that I can rest in Him, my striving has ceased
No but one can be GENUINELY and TRULY saved as opposed to being a false convert.
You are really desperate if you have to use "no such thing as genuine conversion in the Bible.
Can we get serious now?
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UnderGrace
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Do you mean they should check themselves to see if they are truly a Christian, as opposed to a false convert? A wheat as opposed to a tare? Sorry, Undergrace does not believe in genuine Christians who are truly Christians, just Christians who are Christians, so I guess that only leaves false converts, since genuine converts are not in the Bible
There's another thread open about the issue we're talking about. I suggested we move over there, since this conversation is more appropriate for that thread. Plus it might get you guys out of your five person amen corner,(which to a large degree is what this is)to interact with other Christians and who don't come here because of your divisiveness, strawmen, and red herrings here, and learn from them instead of stagnating here.
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UnderGrace
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No but one can be GENUINELY and TRULY saved as opposed to being a false convert.
You are really desperate if you have to use "no such thing as genuine conversion in the Bible.
Can we get serious now?
I am serious are you?
Maybe we should have genuinely, absolutely, irrefutably completely converted just to be sure
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UnderGrace
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I actually like it here, I have learned a lot here, I enjoy having my thinking stretched/challenged and also affirmed
I am serious are you?
Maybe we should have genuinely, absolutely, irrefutably completely converted just to be sure
Do you know the definition of genuine?
Definition- Truly what something is said to be. Authentic
According to your argument, there are no authentic Christians. Richard Dawkins would absolutely LOVE that argument